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Sage: /* Cognates */

2012-09-09T17:55:11Z

Cognates

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	''-(i)on'' appears in later-formed names and is in origin distinct from the above. It is explained to be from root [[YAN]]A- and/or root YONO.<ref name="PE"/>		''-(i)on'' appears in later-formed names and is in origin distinct from the above. It is explained to be from root [[YAN]]A- and/or root YONO.<ref name="PE"/>
	==Cognates==		==Cognates==
−	Relevant endings don't appear in other languages such as [[Quenya]] save perhaps the name [[Hildórien]]. However there is the Qenya name ''Valariande''<ref>{{HM\|LT1}} p.202</ref> and ''Ossiriande''.<ref>{{LB\|C1}}, pp. 158-9</ref> The book ''[[The Road Goes Ever On (book)\|The Road Goes Ever On]]'' gives the Quenya name of Lothlórien as ''[[Lóriende]]''.	+	Relevant endings don't appear in other languages such as [[Quenya]] save perhaps the name [[Hildórien]]. However there is the [[Qenya]] name ''Valariande''<ref>{{HM\|LT1}} p.202</ref> and ''Ossiriande''.<ref>{{LB\|C1}}, pp. 158-9</ref> The book ''[[The Road Goes Ever On (book)\|The Road Goes Ever On]]'' gives the Quenya name of Lothlórien as ''[[Lóriende]]''.

	The above hint that in Quenya the endings were preserved as ''-iande'' and ''-iende'', without loss of final ''-e''. On the other hand, ''Valariande'' is perhaps non-canon as early Qenya (but consistent to the later rules of phonology); as for ''Lóriende'', it seems to be constructed after the Sindarin name and can not be indicative of Quenya etymology.{{fact}}		The above hint that in Quenya the endings were preserved as ''-iande'' and ''-iende'', without loss of final ''-e''. On the other hand, ''Valariande'' is perhaps non-canon as early Qenya (but consistent to the later rules of phonology); as for ''Lóriende'', it seems to be constructed after the Sindarin name and can not be indicative of Quenya etymology.{{fact}}

Sage: /* Cognates */

2012-03-18T18:11:49Z

Cognates

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	''-(i)on'' appears in later-formed names and is in origin distinct from the above. It is explained to be from root [[YAN]]A- and/or root YONO.<ref name="PE"/>		''-(i)on'' appears in later-formed names and is in origin distinct from the above. It is explained to be from root [[YAN]]A- and/or root YONO.<ref name="PE"/>
	==Cognates==		==Cognates==
−	Relevant endings don't appear in other languages such as [[Quenya]]. However there is the Qenya name ''Valariande''<ref>{{HM\|LT1}} p.202</ref> and ''Ossiriande''.<ref>{{LB\|C1}}, pp. 158-9</ref> The book ''[[The Road Goes Ever On (book)\|The Road Goes Ever On]]'' gives the Quenya name of Lothlórien as ''[[Lóriende]]''.	+	Relevant endings don't appear in other languages such as [[Quenya]] save perhaps the name [[Hildórien]]. However there is the Qenya name ''Valariande''<ref>{{HM\|LT1}} p.202</ref> and ''Ossiriande''.<ref>{{LB\|C1}}, pp. 158-9</ref> The book ''[[The Road Goes Ever On (book)\|The Road Goes Ever On]]'' gives the Quenya name of Lothlórien as ''[[Lóriende]]''.

	The above hint that in Quenya the endings were preserved as ''-iande'' and ''-iende'', without loss of final ''-e''. On the other hand, ''Valariande'' is perhaps non-canon as early Qenya (but consistent to the later rules of phonology); as for ''Lóriende'', it seems to be constructed after the Sindarin name and can not be indicative of Quenya etymology.{{fact}}		The above hint that in Quenya the endings were preserved as ''-iande'' and ''-iende'', without loss of final ''-e''. On the other hand, ''Valariande'' is perhaps non-canon as early Qenya (but consistent to the later rules of phonology); as for ''Lóriende'', it seems to be constructed after the Sindarin name and can not be indicative of Quenya etymology.{{fact}}

Sage: /* With e */

2012-03-18T18:10:51Z

With e

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	*[[Rohan]]		*[[Rohan]]
	===With ''e''===		===With ''e''===
−	*[[~~Hildorien~~]]	+	*[[Hildórien]] (note that [[Hildor]] is a [[Quenya]] name)
	*[[Arthórien]]		*[[Arthórien]]
	*[[Arvernien]]		*[[Arvernien]]

Sage: /* With e */

2012-03-18T18:08:57Z

With e

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	*[[Rohan]]		*[[Rohan]]
	===With ''e''===		===With ''e''===
		+	*[[Hildorien]]
	*[[Arthórien]]		*[[Arthórien]]
	*[[Arvernien]]		*[[Arvernien]]
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	*[[Ithilien]]		*[[Ithilien]]
	*[[Anorien]]		*[[Anorien]]
		+
	===With ''o''===		===With ''o''===
	*[[Dorthonion]]		*[[Dorthonion]]

Sage: /* With o */

2011-11-26T15:07:22Z

With o

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	===With ''o''===		===With ''o''===
	*[[Dorthonion]]		*[[Dorthonion]]
		+	*[[Dorwinion]]
	*[[Region]]		*[[Region]]
	*[[Lindon]]		*[[Lindon]]
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	*[[Calenardhon]]		*[[Calenardhon]]
	*[[Lamedon]]		*[[Lamedon]]
		+
	==Etymology==		==Etymology==
	''-ian(d)'' and ultimately ''-ien'' are reduced from ''-iand(a)'', ''-iend(e)'',<ref>{{PE\|17}} p.37</ref> and said to be derived from [[PQ]] ''[[yandē]]'' "a wide region, or country".<ref name="PE"/>		''-ian(d)'' and ultimately ''-ien'' are reduced from ''-iand(a)'', ''-iend(e)'',<ref>{{PE\|17}} p.37</ref> and said to be derived from [[PQ]] ''[[yandē]]'' "a wide region, or country".<ref name="PE"/>

Morgan: /* Cognates */

2011-07-22T01:24:18Z

Cognates

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	Relevant endings don't appear in other languages such as [[Quenya]]. However there is the Qenya name ''Valariande''<ref>{{HM\|LT1}} p.202</ref> and ''Ossiriande''.<ref>{{LB\|C1}}, pp. 158-9</ref> The book ''[[The Road Goes Ever On (book)\|The Road Goes Ever On]]'' gives the Quenya name of Lothlórien as ''[[Lóriende]]''.		Relevant endings don't appear in other languages such as [[Quenya]]. However there is the Qenya name ''Valariande''<ref>{{HM\|LT1}} p.202</ref> and ''Ossiriande''.<ref>{{LB\|C1}}, pp. 158-9</ref> The book ''[[The Road Goes Ever On (book)\|The Road Goes Ever On]]'' gives the Quenya name of Lothlórien as ''[[Lóriende]]''.

−	The above hint that in Quenya the endings were preserved as ''-iande'' and ''-iende'', without loss of final ''-e''. On the other hand, ''Valariande'' is perhaps non-canon as early Qenya (but consistent to the later rules of phonology); as for ''Lóriende'', it seems to be constructed after the Sindarin name and can not be indicative of Quenya etymology{{or}}.	+	The above hint that in Quenya the endings were preserved as ''-iande'' and ''-iende'', without loss of final ''-e''. On the other hand, ''Valariande'' is perhaps non-canon as early Qenya (but consistent to the later rules of phonology); as for ''Lóriende'', it seems to be constructed after the Sindarin name and can not be indicative of Quenya etymology.{{fact}}

	==See also==		==See also==

Mith: Consistent refs re. punctuation

2011-07-21T15:13:42Z

Consistent refs re. punctuation

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	*[[Lamedon]]		*[[Lamedon]]
	==Etymology==		==Etymology==
−	''-ian(d)'' and ultimately ''-ien'' are reduced from ''-iand(a)'', ''-iend(e)''<ref>{{PE\|17}} p.37</ref>, and said to be derived from [[PQ]] ''[[yandē]]'' "a wide region, or country"<ref name="PE"/>.	+	''-ian(d)'' and ultimately ''-ien'' are reduced from ''-iand(a)'', ''-iend(e)'',<ref>{{PE\|17}} p.37</ref> and said to be derived from [[PQ]] ''[[yandē]]'' "a wide region, or country".<ref name="PE"/>

	''-(i)on'' appears in later-formed names and is in origin distinct from the above. It is explained to be from root [[YAN]]A- and/or root YONO.<ref name="PE"/>		''-(i)on'' appears in later-formed names and is in origin distinct from the above. It is explained to be from root [[YAN]]A- and/or root YONO.<ref name="PE"/>
	==Cognates==		==Cognates==
−	Relevant endings don't appear in other languages such as [[Quenya]]. However there is the Qenya name ''Valariande''<ref>{{HM\|LT1}} p.202</ref> and ''Ossiriande''<ref>{{LB\|C1}}, pp. 158-9</ref>. The book ''[[The Road Goes Ever On (book)\|The Road Goes Ever On]]'' gives the Quenya name of Lothlórien as ''[[Lóriende]]''.	+	Relevant endings don't appear in other languages such as [[Quenya]]. However there is the Qenya name ''Valariande''<ref>{{HM\|LT1}} p.202</ref> and ''Ossiriande''.<ref>{{LB\|C1}}, pp. 158-9</ref> The book ''[[The Road Goes Ever On (book)\|The Road Goes Ever On]]'' gives the Quenya name of Lothlórien as ''[[Lóriende]]''.

	The above hint that in Quenya the endings were preserved as ''-iande'' and ''-iende'', without loss of final ''-e''. On the other hand, ''Valariande'' is perhaps non-canon as early Qenya (but consistent to the later rules of phonology); as for ''Lóriende'', it seems to be constructed after the Sindarin name and can not be indicative of Quenya etymology{{or}}.		The above hint that in Quenya the endings were preserved as ''-iande'' and ''-iende'', without loss of final ''-e''. On the other hand, ''Valariande'' is perhaps non-canon as early Qenya (but consistent to the later rules of phonology); as for ''Lóriende'', it seems to be constructed after the Sindarin name and can not be indicative of Quenya etymology{{or}}.

Sage at 12:01, 24 May 2011

2011-05-24T12:01:21Z

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	'''''-nd''''' is a toponymical ending in [[Sindarin]], an ending "commonly used in the names of regions or countries". Vowels could be attached to the ending, yielding the forms ''-and'', ''-end'', ''-ond''. In names such as ''[[Rohan]]'', the ''-d'' was dropped, due to its lack of pronunciation in speech.<ref name=Cirion>{{UT\|Cirion}}</ref><ref>{{HM\|RC}}, p. 248</ref>		'''''-nd''''' is a toponymical ending in [[Sindarin]], an ending "commonly used in the names of regions or countries". Vowels could be attached to the ending, yielding the forms ''-and'', ''-end'', ''-ond''. In names such as ''[[Rohan]]'', the ''-d'' was dropped, due to its lack of pronunciation in speech.<ref name=Cirion>{{UT\|Cirion}}</ref><ref>{{HM\|RC}}, p. 248</ref>

−	The form also appear as ''-ian(d)'', ''-iann'', ''-ion'', ''-ien''.<ref>{{PE\|17}}, pp. 42-3, 115</ref>	+	The form also appear as ''-ian(d)'', ''-iann'', ''-ion'', ''-ien''.<ref name="PE">{{PE\|17}}, pp. 42-3, 115</ref>

	==Examples==		==Examples==
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	*[[Lamedon]]		*[[Lamedon]]
	==Etymology==		==Etymology==
−	''-ian(d)'' and ultimately ''-ien'' are reduced from ''-iand(a)'', ''-iend(e)''<ref>{{PE\|17}} p.37</ref>, and said to be derived from [[PQ]] ''[[yandē]]'' "a wide region, or country"<ref~~>{{~~PE~~\|17}} pp. 42-43<~~/~~ref~~>.	+	''-ian(d)'' and ultimately ''-ien'' are reduced from ''-iand(a)'', ''-iend(e)''<ref>{{PE\|17}} p.37</ref>, and said to be derived from [[PQ]] ''[[yandē]]'' "a wide region, or country"<ref name="PE"/>.

−	''-(i)on'' appears in later-formed names and is in origin distinct from the above. It is explained to be from root [[YAN]]A- and/or root YONO.<ref~~>{{~~PE~~\|17}} p. 42<~~/~~ref~~>	+	''-(i)on'' appears in later-formed names and is in origin distinct from the above. It is explained to be from root [[YAN]]A- and/or root YONO.<ref name="PE"/>
	==Cognates==		==Cognates==
	Relevant endings don't appear in other languages such as [[Quenya]]. However there is the Qenya name ''Valariande''<ref>{{HM\|LT1}} p.202</ref> and ''Ossiriande''<ref>{{LB\|C1}}, pp. 158-9</ref>. The book ''[[The Road Goes Ever On (book)\|The Road Goes Ever On]]'' gives the Quenya name of Lothlórien as ''[[Lóriende]]''.		Relevant endings don't appear in other languages such as [[Quenya]]. However there is the Qenya name ''Valariande''<ref>{{HM\|LT1}} p.202</ref> and ''Ossiriande''<ref>{{LB\|C1}}, pp. 158-9</ref>. The book ''[[The Road Goes Ever On (book)\|The Road Goes Ever On]]'' gives the Quenya name of Lothlórien as ''[[Lóriende]]''.

Sage: /* Cognates */

2011-05-24T01:19:14Z

Cognates

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	''-(i)on'' appears in later-formed names and is in origin distinct from the above. It is explained to be from root [[YAN]]A- and/or root YONO.<ref>{{PE\|17}} p. 42</ref>		''-(i)on'' appears in later-formed names and is in origin distinct from the above. It is explained to be from root [[YAN]]A- and/or root YONO.<ref>{{PE\|17}} p. 42</ref>
	==Cognates==		==Cognates==
−	Relevant endings don't appear in other languages such as [[Quenya]]. However there is the Qenya name ''Valariande''<ref>{{HM\|LT}} p.202</ref> and ''Ossiriande''<ref>{{LB\|C1}}, pp. 158-9</ref>. The book ''[[The Road Goes Ever On (book)\|The Road Goes Ever On]]'' gives the Quenya name of Lothlórien as ''[[Lóriende]]''.	+	Relevant endings don't appear in other languages such as [[Quenya]]. However there is the Qenya name ''Valariande''<ref>{{HM\|LT1}} p.202</ref> and ''Ossiriande''<ref>{{LB\|C1}}, pp. 158-9</ref>. The book ''[[The Road Goes Ever On (book)\|The Road Goes Ever On]]'' gives the Quenya name of Lothlórien as ''[[Lóriende]]''.

	The above hint that in Quenya the endings were preserved as ''-iande'' and ''-iende'', without loss of final ''-e''. On the other hand, ''Valariande'' is perhaps non-canon as early Qenya (but consistent to the later rules of phonology); as for ''Lóriende'', it seems to be constructed after the Sindarin name and can not be indicative of Quenya etymology{{or}}.		The above hint that in Quenya the endings were preserved as ''-iande'' and ''-iende'', without loss of final ''-e''. On the other hand, ''Valariande'' is perhaps non-canon as early Qenya (but consistent to the later rules of phonology); as for ''Lóriende'', it seems to be constructed after the Sindarin name and can not be indicative of Quenya etymology{{or}}.

Sage: /* Cognates */

2011-05-24T01:18:17Z

Cognates

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	''-(i)on'' appears in later-formed names and is in origin distinct from the above. It is explained to be from root [[YAN]]A- and/or root YONO.<ref>{{PE\|17}} p. 42</ref>		''-(i)on'' appears in later-formed names and is in origin distinct from the above. It is explained to be from root [[YAN]]A- and/or root YONO.<ref>{{PE\|17}} p. 42</ref>
	==Cognates==		==Cognates==
−	Relevant endings don't appear in other languages such as [[Quenya]]. However ~~''[[The Book of Lost Tales]]'' provides~~ the name ''Valariande'' ~~for Beleriand~~<ref>{{HM\|LR}} p.202</ref>. The book ''[[The Road Goes Ever On (book)\|The Road Goes Ever On]]'' gives the Quenya name of Lothlórien as ''[[Lóriende]]''.	+	Relevant endings don't appear in other languages such as [[Quenya]]. However there is the Qenya name ''Valariande''<ref>{{HM\|LT}} p.202</ref> and ''Ossiriande''<ref>{{LB\|C1}}, pp. 158-9</ref>. The book ''[[The Road Goes Ever On (book)\|The Road Goes Ever On]]'' gives the Quenya name of Lothlórien as ''[[Lóriende]]''.

	The above hint that in Quenya the endings were preserved as ''-iande'' and ''-iende'', without loss of final ''-e''. On the other hand, ''Valariande'' is perhaps non-canon as early Qenya (but consistent to the later rules of phonology); as for ''Lóriende'', it seems to be constructed after the Sindarin name and can not be indicative of Quenya etymology{{or}}.		The above hint that in Quenya the endings were preserved as ''-iande'' and ''-iende'', without loss of final ''-e''. On the other hand, ''Valariande'' is perhaps non-canon as early Qenya (but consistent to the later rules of phonology); as for ''Lóriende'', it seems to be constructed after the Sindarin name and can not be indicative of Quenya etymology{{or}}.