Avari - Revision history

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	According to the legends [[Orcs]] may be descended by Avarin elves captured and corrupted by [[Morgoth\|Melkor]]. The [[Barrow-wights]] may also be spirits of Avari.{{fact}}		According to the legends [[Orcs]] may be descended by Avarin elves captured and corrupted by [[Morgoth\|Melkor]]. The [[Barrow-wights]] may also be spirits of Avari.{{fact}}

−	~~The~~ Avari after the end of the [[First Age]] started to mingle with ~~the remnants of the Sindar producing~~ the [[Silvan Elves]]	+	Some Avari after the end of the [[First Age]] started to mingle with the [[Silvan Elves]].

	It is told that no Avari Elves were to be found west of the [[Misty Mountains]] during the late [[Third Age]].<ref>{{PE\|17}}, p. 53</ref>		It is told that no Avari Elves were to be found west of the [[Misty Mountains]] during the late [[Third Age]].<ref>{{PE\|17}}, p. 53</ref>

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	\|name=Avari		\|name=Avari
	\|dominions=Possibly [[Dorwinion]]		\|dominions=Possibly [[Dorwinion]]

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	Initially the Avari stayed in Cuiviénen but many of them started to wander westwards.		Initially the Avari stayed in Cuiviénen but many of them started to wander westwards.

−	The Avari who finally went westwards, were mingled with the [[Nandor]] of the [[Vales of Anduin]], [[Eriador]] and some reached [[Beleriand]], mingling with the [[Laiquendi]]. But very few settled in [[Doriath]]. The Avari who came from the Tatyar were unfriendly and jealous to the Noldor, their exalted kin, and accused them for arrogance.	+	The Avari who finally went westwards, were mingled with the [[Nandor]] of the [[Vales of Anduin]], [[Eriador]] and some reached [[Beleriand]], mingling with the [[Laiquendi]]. But very few settled in [[Doriath]]. The Avari who came from the Tatyar were unfriendly and jealous to the Noldor, their [[High Elves\|exalted]] kin, and accused them for arrogance.

	The [[Edain]] who traveled to the West met the Avari first of all the Elves, and were taught from them music and language, which influenced theirs. They probably taught them many of the basic crafts of civilization, though the craft of the Eldar surpassed that of the Avari even more than that of the Avari surpassed primitive [[Men]].		The [[Edain]] who traveled to the West met the Avari first of all the Elves, and were taught from them music and language, which influenced theirs. They probably taught them many of the basic crafts of civilization, though the craft of the Eldar surpassed that of the Avari even more than that of the Avari surpassed primitive [[Men]].

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	When [[Oromë]] found the [[Elves]] that [[Awakening of the Elves\|awakened]] in [[Cuiviénen]], he summoned them to come with him to [[Valinor]]. All the [[Minyar]] and most of the [[Tatyar]] were persuaded, along with some of the [[Nelyar]], and followed [[Oromë]] into the west on the [[Great Journey]].		When [[Oromë]] found the [[Elves]] that [[Awakening of the Elves\|awakened]] in [[Cuiviénen]], he summoned them to come with him to [[Valinor]]. All the [[Minyar]] and most of the [[Tatyar]] were persuaded, along with some of the [[Nelyar]], and followed [[Oromë]] into the west on the [[Great Journey]].

−	The rest, who dwelt furthest from the waters of [[Cuiviénen]], and wandered in the hills, had not seen Oromë at his first coming, and knew only vague scary rumors of the Valar; lies of Melkor concerning Oromë and [[Nahar]] perhaps had a roles.<ref>{{HM\|MR}}~~, [[The Annals of Aman]]~~</ref> So they remained suspicious, or simply refused to depart from their own lands, and spread gradually throughout the wide lands of [[Middle-earth]]. They were after known by the name "the Unwilling", because they refused the summons.	+	The rest, who dwelt furthest from the waters of [[Cuiviénen]], and wandered in the hills, had not seen Oromë at his first coming, and knew only vague scary rumors of the Valar; lies of Melkor concerning Oromë and [[Nahar]] perhaps had a roles.<ref>{{MR\|Annals}}</ref> So they remained suspicious, or simply refused to depart from their own lands, and spread gradually throughout the wide lands of [[Middle-earth]]. Their population was composed of half of the [[Tatyar]] and one third of the [[Nelyar]], who maybe were called Lindai. According to a tradition their leaders were [[Morwë]] of the Tatyar and [[Nurwë]] of the [[Nelyar]]. They were after known by the name "the Unwilling", because they refused the summons.

	Initially the Avari stayed in Cuiviénen but many of them started to wander westwards.		Initially the Avari stayed in Cuiviénen but many of them started to wander westwards.
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		+	The Avari who finally went westwards, were mingled with the [[Nandor]] of the [[Vales of Anduin]], [[Eriador]] and some reached [[Beleriand]], mingling with the [[Laiquendi]]. But very few settled in [[Doriath]]. The Avari who came from the Tatyar were unfriendly and jealous to the Noldor, their exalted kin, and accused them for arrogance.

	The [[Edain]] who traveled to the West met the Avari first of all the Elves, and were taught from them music and language, which influenced theirs. They probably taught them many of the basic crafts of civilization, though the craft of the Eldar surpassed that of the Avari even more than that of the Avari surpassed primitive [[Men]].		The [[Edain]] who traveled to the West met the Avari first of all the Elves, and were taught from them music and language, which influenced theirs. They probably taught them many of the basic crafts of civilization, though the craft of the Eldar surpassed that of the Avari even more than that of the Avari surpassed primitive [[Men]].

	According to the legends [[Orcs]] may be descended by Avarin elves captured and corrupted by [[Morgoth\|Melkor]]. The [[Barrow-wights]] may also be spirits of Avari.{{fact}}		According to the legends [[Orcs]] may be descended by Avarin elves captured and corrupted by [[Morgoth\|Melkor]]. The [[Barrow-wights]] may also be spirits of Avari.{{fact}}
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		+	The Avari after the end of the [[First Age]] started to mingle with the remnants of the Sindar producing the [[Silvan Elves]]

	It is told that no Avari Elves were to be found west of the [[Misty Mountains]] during the late [[Third Age]].<ref>{{PE\|17}}, p. 53</ref>		It is told that no Avari Elves were to be found west of the [[Misty Mountains]] during the late [[Third Age]].<ref>{{PE\|17}}, p. 53</ref>

	==Tribes==		==Tribes==
−	Their population was composed of half of the [[Tatyar]] and one third of the [[Nelyar]], who maybe were called Lindai. According to a tradition their leaders were [[Morwë]] of the Tatyar and [[Nurwë]] of the [[Nelyar]].
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−	The Avari who finally went westwards, were mingled with the [[Nandor]] of the [[Vales of Anduin]], [[Eriador]] and some reached [[Beleriand]], mingling with the [[Laiquendi]]. But very few settled in [[Doriath]]. The Avari who came from the Tatyar were unfriendly and jealous to the Noldor, their exalted kin, and accused them for arrogance.
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−	~~The Avari after the end of the [[First Age]] started to mingle with the remnants of the Sindar producing the [[Silvan Elves]]~~
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	Six tribes of Avari are mentioned in the [[Third Age]], and their names are all cognates of the [[Primitive Quendian]] word [[Quendi\|Kwendî]] (''the Speakers''): '''[[Kindi]]''', '''[[Cuind]]''', '''[[Hwenti]]''', '''[[Windan]]''', '''[[Kinn-lai]]''', '''[[Penni]]'''.<ref>{{WJ\|Author}}, Note 9</ref>		Six tribes of Avari are mentioned in the [[Third Age]], and their names are all cognates of the [[Primitive Quendian]] word [[Quendi\|Kwendî]] (''the Speakers''): '''[[Kindi]]''', '''[[Cuind]]''', '''[[Hwenti]]''', '''[[Windan]]''', '''[[Kinn-lai]]''', '''[[Penni]]'''.<ref>{{WJ\|Author}}, Note 9</ref>

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	It is also possible that the name [[Eöl]] is an Avarin one.		It is also possible that the name [[Eöl]] is an Avarin one.

−	It is speculated also that [[Dorwinion]] was an Avarin land~~, with '''Winion''' carrying the meaning of "Wine"~~.<ref>http://www.jrrvf.com/hisweloke/site3/articles.php?lng=fr&pg=36</ref>	+	It is speculated also that [[Dorwinion]] was an Avarin land.<ref>http://www.jrrvf.com/hisweloke/site3/articles.php?lng=fr&pg=36</ref>

	==Names==		==Names==

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	The [[Edain]] who traveled to the West met the Avari first of all the Elves, and were taught from them music and language, which influenced theirs. They probably taught them many of the basic crafts of civilization, though the craft of the Eldar surpassed that of the Avari even more than that of the Avari surpassed primitive [[Men]].		The [[Edain]] who traveled to the West met the Avari first of all the Elves, and were taught from them music and language, which influenced theirs. They probably taught them many of the basic crafts of civilization, though the craft of the Eldar surpassed that of the Avari even more than that of the Avari surpassed primitive [[Men]].

−	According to the legends [[Orcs]] may be descended by Avarin elves captured and corrupted by [[Melkor]]. The [[Barrow-wights]] may also be spirits of Avari.{{fact}}	+	According to the legends [[Orcs]] may be descended by Avarin elves captured and corrupted by [[Morgoth\|Melkor]]. The [[Barrow-wights]] may also be spirits of Avari.{{fact}}

	It is told that no Avari Elves were to be found west of the [[Misty Mountains]] during the late [[Third Age]].<ref>{{PE\|17}}, p. 53</ref>		It is told that no Avari Elves were to be found west of the [[Misty Mountains]] during the late [[Third Age]].<ref>{{PE\|17}}, p. 53</ref>

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	The [[Edain]] who traveled to the West met the Avari first of all the Elves, and were taught from them music and language, which influenced theirs. They probably taught them many of the basic crafts of civilization, though the craft of the Eldar surpassed that of the Avari even more than that of the Avari surpassed primitive [[Men]].		The [[Edain]] who traveled to the West met the Avari first of all the Elves, and were taught from them music and language, which influenced theirs. They probably taught them many of the basic crafts of civilization, though the craft of the Eldar surpassed that of the Avari even more than that of the Avari surpassed primitive [[Men]].

−	According to the legends [[Orcs]] may be descended by Avarin elves captured and corrupted by [[~~Morgoth~~]]. The [[Barrow-wights]] may also be spirits of Avari.{{fact}}	+	According to the legends [[Orcs]] may be descended by Avarin elves captured and corrupted by [[Melkor]]. The [[Barrow-wights]] may also be spirits of Avari.{{fact}}

	It is told that no Avari Elves were to be found west of the [[Misty Mountains]] during the late [[Third Age]].<ref>{{PE\|17}}, p. 53</ref>		It is told that no Avari Elves were to be found west of the [[Misty Mountains]] during the late [[Third Age]].<ref>{{PE\|17}}, p. 53</ref>

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	The [[Edain]] who traveled to the West met the Avari first of all the Elves, and were taught from them music and language, which influenced theirs. They probably taught them many of the basic crafts of civilization, though the craft of the Eldar surpassed that of the Avari even more than that of the Avari surpassed primitive [[Men]].		The [[Edain]] who traveled to the West met the Avari first of all the Elves, and were taught from them music and language, which influenced theirs. They probably taught them many of the basic crafts of civilization, though the craft of the Eldar surpassed that of the Avari even more than that of the Avari surpassed primitive [[Men]].

−	According to the legends [[Orcs]] may be descended by Avarin elves captured and corrupted by [[~~Melkor~~]]. The [[Barrow-wights]] may also be spirits of Avari.{{fact}}	+	According to the legends [[Orcs]] may be descended by Avarin elves captured and corrupted by [[Morgoth]]. The [[Barrow-wights]] may also be spirits of Avari.{{fact}}

	It is told that no Avari Elves were to be found west of the [[Misty Mountains]] during the late [[Third Age]].<ref>{{PE\|17}}, p. 53</ref>		It is told that no Avari Elves were to be found west of the [[Misty Mountains]] during the late [[Third Age]].<ref>{{PE\|17}}, p. 53</ref>

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	According to the legends [[Orcs]] may be descended by Avarin elves captured and corrupted by [[Melkor]]. The [[Barrow-wights]] may also be spirits of Avari.{{fact}}		According to the legends [[Orcs]] may be descended by Avarin elves captured and corrupted by [[Melkor]]. The [[Barrow-wights]] may also be spirits of Avari.{{fact}}
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		+	It is told that no Avari Elves were to be found west of the [[Misty Mountains]] during the late [[Third Age]].<ref>{{PE\|17}}, p. 53</ref>

	==Tribes==		==Tribes==

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	==Languages==		==Languages==
−	The Avari had many tribes and greatly varied languages, widely sundered from one another.<ref>{{WJ\|Quendi}}, p.410</ref>	+	{{main\|Avarin}}
−		+	The Avari had many tribes and greatly varied languages, widely sundered from one another.<ref>{{WJ\|Quendi}}, p.410</ref> The names above are the only certain [[Avarin]] words ever mentioned by the Loremasters.
−	The names above are the only certain [[Avarin]] words ever mentioned by the Loremasters. ~~It is speculated however that [[Dorwinion]] was an Avarin land, with '''Winion''' carrying the meaning of "Wine".<ref>http://www.jrrvf.com/hisweloke/site3/articles.php?lng=fr&pg=36</ref>~~	+

	It is also possible that the name [[Eöl]] is an Avarin one.		It is also possible that the name [[Eöl]] is an Avarin one.
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		+	It is speculated also that [[Dorwinion]] was an Avarin land, with '''Winion''' carrying the meaning of "Wine".<ref>http://www.jrrvf.com/hisweloke/site3/articles.php?lng=fr&pg=36</ref>

	==Names==		==Names==