Battle of the Plains - Revision history

Gamling: Added information, added references

2012-05-13T06:14:30Z

Added information, added references

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−	~~{{expansion}}~~
	{{battle		{{battle
	\| name=Battle of the Plains		\| name=Battle of the Plains
	\| image=[[Image:Olanda Fong-Surdenas - Easterling.jpg\|300px]]		\| image=[[Image:Olanda Fong-Surdenas - Easterling.jpg\|300px]]
	\| conflict=[[Wainrider/Balchoth War]]		\| conflict=[[Wainrider/Balchoth War]]
−	\| date=~~[[Third Age 1856~~\|~~T.A.~~ 1856]]	+	\| date={{TA\|1856}}
	\| place=Plains south of Mirkwood		\| place=Plains south of Mirkwood
	\| result=Victory for the Wainriders		\| result=Victory for the Wainriders
−	\| side1=Gondor, Northmen, Éothéod	+	\| side1=Gondor, Northmen (pre-Éothéod)
	\| side2=Wainriders		\| side2=Wainriders
	\| commanders1=[[Image:ME-GondorKing.png\|45px\|left]] Narmacil II †		\| commanders1=[[Image:ME-GondorKing.png\|45px\|left]] Narmacil II †
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	\|casual2=Probably moderate		\|casual2=Probably moderate
	\|}}		\|}}
−		+	The '''Battle of the Plains''' was fought in {{TA\|1856}}, in which the armies of [[Gondor]] and their allies the [[Northmen]] faced the invading [[Wainriders]].
−	The '''Battle of the Plains''' was ~~a battle~~ fought in ~~[[Third Age 1856~~\|~~T.A.~~ 1856]], in which the armies of [[Gondor]] and their allies the [[Northmen]] faced the invading [[Wainriders]].	+

	== Prior to the Battle ==		== Prior to the Battle ==
−		+	Prior to the battle, in the winter of {{TA\|1635}},<ref name="Cirion">{{UT\|Cirion}}, (i) ''The Northmen and the Wainriders''</ref> the [[Great Plague]] arrived by dark winds in the northwest of [[Middle-earth]]. The heaviest impact struck the kingdoms of [[Rhovanion (Realm)\|Rhovanion]], which lost half of its people, and Gondor, where in {{TA\|1636}} it killed many thousands of its people as well.<ref name="TA">{{App\|TA}}</ref> They were slow to recover; but fortunately, their weaknesses went untested for decades.<ref name="Cirion"/> The [[Easterlings]] had also been afflicted, so that the enemies of Gondor struck mainly from the south, or were maritime raiders. But when the Wainriders invasions began in {{TA\|1851}},<ref name="TA"/> they involved Gondor in wars that lasted for nearly a hundred years. In these conflicts, the Northmen bore the brunt of the first assaults.<ref name="Cirion"/>
−	~~Twenty one years prior~~ to the battle, the [[Great Plague]] ~~had killed thousands of people from~~ the ~~east to the west~~ of Middle-earth. The heaviest ~~plague~~ impact ~~afflicted~~ the kingdoms of [[Rhovanion (Realm)\|Rhovanion]], which lost half of its people, and Gondor, ~~who lost~~ many thousands of its people as well.	+
−	They were slow to recover; but fortunately, their weaknesses ~~were not tested~~ for decades. The [[Easterlings]] had been ~~equally~~ afflicted, so that the enemies of Gondor struck mainly from the south, or were maritime raiders. But when the Wainriders invasions began, it involved Gondor in wars that lasted for nearly a hundred years. In these conflicts, the Northmen bore the brunt of the first assaults.	+

	== The Battle ==		== The Battle ==
−		+	In {{TA\|1856}} King [[Narmacil II]] of Gondor took a great army north to the plains south of [[Mirkwood]], and gathered together all that he could of the scattered remnants of the Northmen. The Wainriders descended upon this combined force from the north and northeast. Narmacil II was defeated, and he himself was slain in the battle as well as [[Marhari]] leader of the Northmen, who died fighting in the rearguard. The remnant of Gondor's army retreated over [[Dagorlad]] into [[Ithilien]].<ref name="Cirion"/>
−	~~Though we know few details, it appears that that~~ King [[Narmacil II]] took a great army north to the plains south of [[Mirkwood]], and gathered together all he could of the scattered remnants of the Northmen~~; but he~~ was defeated, and he himself was slain in the battle as well as [[Marhari]] leader of the Northmen, who died fighting in the rearguard. The remnant of ~~his~~ army retreated over [[Dagorlad]] into [[Ithilien]].	+

	== Aftermath and Repercussions ==		== Aftermath and Repercussions ==
		+	The battle was a disaster for [[Gondor]]. The king was slain, and the lands east of the river [[Anduin]] were abandoned, save Ithilien. Narmacil was succeeded by his son [[Calimehtar (King of Gondor)\|Calimehtar]]. However, the forces of Gondor did inflict enough damage to the Wainriders to prevent any deeper incursion into Gondor; instead they invaders completed their conquest of Rhovanion.<ref name="Cirion"/>

−	The battle was a disaster for [[Gondor]]. The king was slain, and the lands east of the river [[Anduin]] were abandoned, save Ithilien. Narmacil was succeeded by his son [[Calimehtar (King of Gondor)\|Calimehtar]].	+	As for the Northmen, a few fled over the river [[River Running\|Celduin]] and merged with the [[Men of Dale\|People of Dale]] (with whom they were akin), some took refuge in Gondor, and others were gathereed under the leadership of [[Marhwini]] son of Marhari. Marhwini led his people north between Anduin and Mirkwood, eventually settling east of the Great River in the [[Vales of Anduin]] between the [[Carrock]] and the [[Gladden Fields]].<ref>{{UT\|Cirion}}, (i) ''The Northmen and the Wainriders'', note 8</ref> They were joined by many fugitives who came through Mirkwood. This was the birth of the [[Éothéod]], though no news of this reached Gondor for many years. Most of the Northmen were reduced to servitude, and all their former lands were occupied by the Wainriders.<ref name="Cirion"/>
−		+
−	As for the Northmen, a few fled over the river [[River Running\|Celduin]] and merged with the [[Men of Dale \| People of Dale]] (with whom they were akin), some took refuge in Gondor, and others were ~~gathering~~ under the leadership of [[Marhwini]] son of Marhari. ~~They headed~~ north and eventually ~~settled~~ east of ~~Anduin~~ in the [[Vales of Anduin]]. They were joined by many fugitives who came through Mirkwood. This was the birth of the [[Éothéod]], though no news of this reached Gondor for many years. Most of the Northmen were reduced to servitude, and all their former lands were occupied by the Wainriders.	+
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−	=~~= Sources ==~~	+
−	*[[The Return of the King]] [[Appendix A]]	+
−	*[[Unfinished Tales]]	+
−		+

		+	{{references}}
	[[Category:Conflicts of the Third Age]]		[[Category:Conflicts of the Third Age]]
	[[de:Schlacht auf den Ebenen]]		[[de:Schlacht auf den Ebenen]]
	[[fr:encyclo:evenements:3a:guerres:bataille_des_plaines]]		[[fr:encyclo:evenements:3a:guerres:bataille_des_plaines]]
	[[fi:Tasankojen Taistelu]]		[[fi:Tasankojen Taistelu]]

Mithbot: Bot: Re-linked Celduin

2011-11-13T11:56:07Z

Bot: Re-linked Celduin

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	The battle was a disaster for [[Gondor]]. The king was slain, and the lands east of the river [[Anduin]] were abandoned, save Ithilien. Narmacil was succeeded by his son [[Calimehtar (King of Gondor)\|Calimehtar]].		The battle was a disaster for [[Gondor]]. The king was slain, and the lands east of the river [[Anduin]] were abandoned, save Ithilien. Narmacil was succeeded by his son [[Calimehtar (King of Gondor)\|Calimehtar]].

−	As for the Northmen, a few fled over the river [[Celduin]] and merged with the [[Men of Dale \| People of Dale]] (with whom they were akin), some took refuge in Gondor, and others were gathering under the leadership of [[Marhwini]] son of Marhari. They headed north and eventually settled east of Anduin in the [[Vales of Anduin]]. They were joined by many fugitives who came through Mirkwood. This was the birth of the [[Éothéod]], though no news of this reached Gondor for many years. Most of the Northmen were reduced to servitude, and all their former lands were occupied by the Wainriders.	+	As for the Northmen, a few fled over the river [[River Running\|Celduin]] and merged with the [[Men of Dale \| People of Dale]] (with whom they were akin), some took refuge in Gondor, and others were gathering under the leadership of [[Marhwini]] son of Marhari. They headed north and eventually settled east of Anduin in the [[Vales of Anduin]]. They were joined by many fugitives who came through Mirkwood. This was the birth of the [[Éothéod]], though no news of this reached Gondor for many years. Most of the Northmen were reduced to servitude, and all their former lands were occupied by the Wainriders.

	== Sources ==		== Sources ==

Morgan at 12:00, 21 November 2010

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	The '''Battle of the Plains''' was a battle fought in [[Third Age 1856\|T.A. 1856]], in which the armies of [[Gondor]] and their allies the [[Northmen]] faced the invading [[Wainriders]].		The '''Battle of the Plains''' was a battle fought in [[Third Age 1856\|T.A. 1856]], in which the armies of [[Gondor]] and their allies the [[Northmen]] faced the invading [[Wainriders]].
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	== Prior to the Battle ==		== Prior to the Battle ==
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	Twenty one years prior to the battle, the [[Great Plague]] had killed thousands of people from the east to the west of Middle-earth. The heaviest plague impact afflicted the kingdoms of [[Rhovanion (Realm)\|Rhovanion]], which lost half of its people, and Gondor, who lost many thousands of its people as well.		Twenty one years prior to the battle, the [[Great Plague]] had killed thousands of people from the east to the west of Middle-earth. The heaviest plague impact afflicted the kingdoms of [[Rhovanion (Realm)\|Rhovanion]], which lost half of its people, and Gondor, who lost many thousands of its people as well.
	They were slow to recover; but fortunately, their weaknesses were not tested for decades. The [[Easterlings]] had been equally afflicted, so that the enemies of Gondor struck mainly from the south, or were maritime raiders. But when the Wainriders invasions began, it involved Gondor in wars that lasted for nearly a hundred years. In these conflicts, the Northmen bore the brunt of the first assaults.		They were slow to recover; but fortunately, their weaknesses were not tested for decades. The [[Easterlings]] had been equally afflicted, so that the enemies of Gondor struck mainly from the south, or were maritime raiders. But when the Wainriders invasions began, it involved Gondor in wars that lasted for nearly a hundred years. In these conflicts, the Northmen bore the brunt of the first assaults.
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	== The Battle ==		== The Battle ==

Ederchil: there are no figures for these battles. we're going to have to check them on all battles

2010-11-21T11:33:49Z

there are no figures for these battles. we're going to have to check them on all battles

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	\| commanders1=[[Image:ME-GondorKing.png\|45px\|left]] Narmacil II †		\| commanders1=[[Image:ME-GondorKing.png\|45px\|left]] Narmacil II †
	\| commanders2=[[Image:ME-Easterlings.png\|45px\|left]] Unknown Wainrider commander		\| commanders2=[[Image:ME-Easterlings.png\|45px\|left]] Unknown Wainrider commander
−	\| forces1=~~About 10,000 Gondorians and 5,000 Northmen~~	+	\| forces1=
−	\| forces2=~~Nearly 25,000-30,000 Wainriders and 5,000 soldiers of [[Khand]]~~	+	\| forces2=
−	\| casual1=Severe~~: 10,000:<br>~~	+	\| casual1=Severe
−	~~6,000 soldiers of Gondor,4,000 Northmen~~	+	\|casual2=Probably moderate
−	\|casual2=Probably moderate~~:10,000:<br>~~	+
−	~~8,000 Wainriders,2,000 soldiers of [[Khand]]~~	+
	\|}}		\|}}

Multikillerbot at 10:23, 21 November 2010

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	\| casual1=Severe: 10,000:<br>		\| casual1=Severe: 10,000:<br>
	6,000 soldiers of Gondor,4,000 Northmen		6,000 soldiers of Gondor,4,000 Northmen
−	\| casual2=Probably moderate:10,000:<br>	+	\|casual2=Probably moderate:10,000:<br>
	8,000 Wainriders,2,000 soldiers of [[Khand]]		8,000 Wainriders,2,000 soldiers of [[Khand]]
	\|}}		\|}}

Multikillerbot at 10:23, 21 November 2010

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	\| commanders2=[[Image:ME-Easterlings.png\|45px\|left]] Unknown Wainrider commander		\| commanders2=[[Image:ME-Easterlings.png\|45px\|left]] Unknown Wainrider commander
	\| forces1=About 10,000 Gondorians and 5,000 Northmen		\| forces1=About 10,000 Gondorians and 5,000 Northmen
−	\| forces2=Nearly 30,000-35,000	+	\| forces2=Nearly 25,000-30,000 Wainriders and 5,000 soldiers of [[Khand]]
−	\| casual1=Severe: 10,000:<br>6,000 soldiers of Gondor,4,000 Northmen	+	\| casual1=Severe: 10,000:<br>
−	\| casual2=Probably moderate:10,000	+	6,000 soldiers of Gondor,4,000 Northmen
		+	\| casual2=Probably moderate:10,000:<br>
		+	8,000 Wainriders,2,000 soldiers of [[Khand]]
	\|}}		\|}}

Multikillerbot at 10:20, 21 November 2010

2010-11-21T10:20:39Z

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	\| commanders2=[[Image:ME-Easterlings.png\|45px\|left]] Unknown Wainrider commander		\| commanders2=[[Image:ME-Easterlings.png\|45px\|left]] Unknown Wainrider commander
	\| forces1=About 10,000 Gondorians and 5,000 Northmen		\| forces1=About 10,000 Gondorians and 5,000 Northmen
−	\| forces2=Nearly 30,000-35,000~~{{fact}}~~	+	\| forces2=Nearly 30,000-35,000
−	\| casual1=Severe: 10,000:6,000 soldiers of Gondor,4,000 Northmen	+	\| casual1=Severe: 10,000:<br>6,000 soldiers of Gondor,4,000 Northmen
	\| casual2=Probably moderate:10,000		\| casual2=Probably moderate:10,000
	\|}}		\|}}

Multikillerbot at 10:18, 21 November 2010

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	\| commanders1=[[Image:ME-GondorKing.png\|45px\|left]] Narmacil II †		\| commanders1=[[Image:ME-GondorKing.png\|45px\|left]] Narmacil II †
	\| commanders2=[[Image:ME-Easterlings.png\|45px\|left]] Unknown Wainrider commander		\| commanders2=[[Image:ME-Easterlings.png\|45px\|left]] Unknown Wainrider commander
−	\| forces1=About 10,000 Gondorians and 5,000 Northmen~~{{fact}}~~	+	\| forces1=About 10,000 Gondorians and 5,000 Northmen
	\| forces2=Nearly 30,000-35,000{{fact}}		\| forces2=Nearly 30,000-35,000{{fact}}
−	\| casual1=Severe: 10,000~~{{fact}}~~	+	\| casual1=Severe: 10,000:6,000 soldiers of Gondor,4,000 Northmen
−	\| casual2=Probably moderate: 5,000~~{{fact}}~~	+	\| casual2=Probably moderate:10,000
	\|}}		\|}}

Mith: Added {{fact}} - I'm not confident in these figures

2010-11-21T10:06:36Z

Added {{fact}} - I'm not confident in these figures

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	\| commanders1=[[Image:ME-GondorKing.png\|45px\|left]] Narmacil II †		\| commanders1=[[Image:ME-GondorKing.png\|45px\|left]] Narmacil II †
	\| commanders2=[[Image:ME-Easterlings.png\|45px\|left]] Unknown Wainrider commander		\| commanders2=[[Image:ME-Easterlings.png\|45px\|left]] Unknown Wainrider commander
−	\| forces1=About 10,000 Gondorians and 5,000 Northmen	+	\| forces1=About 10,000 Gondorians and 5,000 Northmen{{fact}}
−	\| forces2=Nearly 30,000-35,000	+	\| forces2=Nearly 30,000-35,000{{fact}}
−	\| casual1=Severe:10,000	+	\| casual1=Severe: 10,000{{fact}}
−	\| casual2=Probably moderate:5,000	+	\| casual2=Probably moderate: 5,000{{fact}}
	\|}}		\|}}

Multikillerbot at 09:54, 21 November 2010

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	\| commanders1=[[Image:ME-GondorKing.png\|45px\|left]] Narmacil II †		\| commanders1=[[Image:ME-GondorKing.png\|45px\|left]] Narmacil II †
	\| commanders2=[[Image:ME-Easterlings.png\|45px\|left]] Unknown Wainrider commander		\| commanders2=[[Image:ME-Easterlings.png\|45px\|left]] Unknown Wainrider commander
−	\| forces1=~~Unknown number of~~ Gondorians, ~~Unknown number of~~ Northmen	+	\| forces1=About 10,000 Gondorians and 5,000 Northmen
−	\| forces2=~~Unknown number of Wainriders~~	+	\| forces2=Nearly 30,000-35,000
−	\| casual1=Severe	+	\| casual1=Severe:10,000
−	\| casual2=Probably moderate	+	\| casual2=Probably moderate:5,000
	\|}}		\|}}