Battle of the Thousand Caves - Revision history

Sage at 10:18, 25 March 2013

2013-03-25T10:18:22Z

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	\| name=Battle of the Thousand Caves		\| name=Battle of the Thousand Caves
	\| conflict=[[Sack of Doriath]]		\| conflict=[[Sack of Doriath]]

Dwarf Lord: Needs lots of fixing.

2011-11-04T16:55:18Z

Needs lots of fixing.

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	\| place=The Elven city of [[Menegroth]]		\| place=The Elven city of [[Menegroth]]
	\| result=Dwarven Victory		\| result=Dwarven Victory
−	\| side1=Elves	+	\| side1=Elves of Doriath
−	\| side2=Dwarves	+	\| side2=Dwarves from Nogrod
	\| commanders1=[[Mablung]]		\| commanders1=[[Mablung]]
	\| commanders2=* King [[Naugladur]]		\| commanders2=* King [[Naugladur]]
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	After some years, [[Hurin]] was releast by Morgoth and was let to go wherever he he may desire. Hurin then desired revenge for him and his family, and came first to [[Nargothrond]], and there he found [[Mim]] and killed him. From all the treasures he took only [[Nauglamir]], the Necklace of the Dwarves, and brought it to Thingol.		After some years, [[Hurin]] was releast by Morgoth and was let to go wherever he he may desire. Hurin then desired revenge for him and his family, and came first to [[Nargothrond]], and there he found [[Mim]] and killed him. From all the treasures he took only [[Nauglamir]], the Necklace of the Dwarves, and brought it to Thingol.

−	Having the [[Nauglamir]] and the [[Silmaril]], the two great treasures, he ~~desided~~ to unite them and put the Silmaril into the Dwarven Necklace. The [[Nogrod\|Dwarves]] that made that work desired the Silmaril from the beginning, and when the work ended refused to give it. In the conflict Thingol was killed, but the rest of the Dwarves were hunted down ~~at their road to~~ home, and Nauglamir, now ~~with~~ the Silmaril ~~in it~~, was taken from them.	+	Having the [[Nauglamir]] and the [[Silmaril]], the two great treasures, he decided to unite them and put the Silmaril into the Dwarven Necklace. The [[Dwarves of Nogrod\|Dwarves]] that made that work desired the Silmaril from the beginning, and when the work ended refused to give it to him. In the conflict Thingol was killed, but the rest of the Dwarves were hunted down and slain as they fled home, and Nauglamir, now containing the Silmaril, was taken from them.

	== Opposing Forces ==		== Opposing Forces ==
−	~~But two~~ of the ~~[[Dwarves]] that killed [[Thingol]] survived~~, and ~~they fled~~ to their home at the [[Blue Mountains]]. They didn't tell ~~the Dwarves of [[Nogrod]]~~ the truth, but instead told them that Thingol killed the Dwarves that made the [[Nauglamir]], refusing to pay them for their work. The Dwarves were enraged, and ~~desided~~ to ~~make revenge,~~ and although the Dwarves of Belegost refused to aid them, the Dwarves of Nogrod entered [[Beleriand]] with a ~~big army~~, and, crossing [[Sarn Athrad]], ~~moved~~ west towards [[Doriath]].	+	Two of the Dwarf craftsman escaped the slaughter, and made it to their home in the [[Blue Mountains]]. They didn't tell their kinsmen the truth, but instead told them that Thingol killed the Dwarves that made the Nauglamir, refusing to pay them for their work. The Dwarves were enraged, and decided to avenge their fallen artisans and although the [[Dwarves of Belegost]] refused to aid them, the Dwarves of Nogrod entered [[Beleriand]] with a great host, and, crossing [[Sarn Athrad]], marched west towards [[Doriath]].

−	After the death of Thingol the power of [[Melian]] waned, and she lost her magical control upon the woods of Doriath, and soon the [[Girdle of Melian]] was no longer protecting Doriath. Melian left [[Middle-earth]] and returned to [[Valinor]], and the [[Sindar]] remained leaderless, except their chieftains, which were scattered and without hope. But the ~~Sindars~~ lived mostly in [[Menegroth]], and there most of them resisted the attack of the Dwarves.	+	After the death of Thingol the power of [[Melian]] waned, and she lost her magical control upon the woods of Doriath, and soon the [[Girdle of Melian]] was no longer protecting Doriath. Melian left [[Middle-earth]] and returned to [[Valinor]], and the [[Sindar]] remained leaderless, except their chieftains, which were scattered and without hope. But the Sindar lived mostly in [[Menegroth]], and there most of them resisted the attack of the Dwarves.

	== The Battle ==		== The Battle ==
−	The Dwarves entered [[Menegroth]] and began fighting in the Thousand Caves. We don't know much about the battle, but we know that the losses were heavy on the both sides. Mablung was defending the treasury ~~were~~ the [[Nauglamir]] lay, and there he was killed before it's doors, and the Silmaril was taken. After the Nauglamir was in the hands of the [[Dwarves]], they retreated from [[Menegroth]] and ~~began~~ their way home, to ~~the mountains of [[Ered Lindon]]~~.	+	The Dwarves entered [[Menegroth]] and began fighting in the Thousand Caves. We don't know much about the battle, but we know that the losses were heavy on the both sides. Mablung was defending the treasury where the Nauglamir lay, and there he was killed before it's doors, and the Silmaril was taken. After the Nauglamir was in the hands of the Dwarves, they retreated from [[Menegroth]] and made their way home to Nogrod.

	== Aftermath and Repercussions ==		== Aftermath and Repercussions ==

Dwarf Lord at 22:47, 21 March 2011

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	\| date={{FA\|503}}		\| date={{FA\|503}}
	\| place=The Elven city of [[Menegroth]]		\| place=The Elven city of [[Menegroth]]
−	\| result=Victory ~~for the Dwarves~~	+	\| result=Dwarven Victory
	\| side1=Elves		\| side1=Elves
	\| side2=Dwarves		\| side2=Dwarves
−	\| commanders1=	+	\| commanders1=[[Mablung]]
	\| commanders2=* King [[Naugladur]]		\| commanders2=* King [[Naugladur]]
−	\| forces1=The entire strength of Doriath, which hadn't participated in any ~~wars~~ since the beginning of the First Age. Probably 30,000 Elves, although not all would've been armed or trained{{fact}}	+	\| forces1=The entire strength of Doriath, which hadn't participated in any battles since the beginning of the First Age. Probably 30,000 Elves, although not all would've been armed or trained{{fact}}
	\| forces2=Unknown, Est. 20-40,000{{fact}}		\| forces2=Unknown, Est. 20-40,000{{fact}}
	\| casual1=Fairly heavy. Although the Dwarves wouldn't have slain all of them, they did break in and sack Menegroth, leading us to believe that the majority of the Elven Army was destroyed. Probably upwards of 20,000{{fact}}		\| casual1=Fairly heavy. Although the Dwarves wouldn't have slain all of them, they did break in and sack Menegroth, leading us to believe that the majority of the Elven Army was destroyed. Probably upwards of 20,000{{fact}}
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	}}The ''' Battle of the Thousand Caves''' was a battle between the [[Dwarves of Nogrod]] and the [[Sindar\|Elves of Menegroth]].		}}The ''' Battle of the Thousand Caves''' was a battle between the [[Dwarves of Nogrod]] and the [[Sindar\|Elves of Menegroth]].

−	== ~~Events Prior to the Battle~~ ==	+	== Background ==
	The [[Quest for the Silmaril]] resulted the one of the [[Silmaril]]s taken from the [[Iron Crown]] of [[Morgoth]] by [[Beren]] and [[Lúthien]], and it was later, after the [[Hunting of the Wolf]] and the slaing of [[Carcharoth]], given to [[Thingol\|Elu Thingol]] of [[Doriath]]. It remained in the treasury of Thingol, and he desired to have it always at hand.		The [[Quest for the Silmaril]] resulted the one of the [[Silmaril]]s taken from the [[Iron Crown]] of [[Morgoth]] by [[Beren]] and [[Lúthien]], and it was later, after the [[Hunting of the Wolf]] and the slaing of [[Carcharoth]], given to [[Thingol\|Elu Thingol]] of [[Doriath]]. It remained in the treasury of Thingol, and he desired to have it always at hand.

Mithbot: Bot Message: changing link to Thingol

2011-01-13T15:34:15Z

Bot Message: changing link to Thingol

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	== Events Prior to the Battle ==		== Events Prior to the Battle ==
−	The [[Quest for the Silmaril]] resulted the one of the [[Silmaril]]s taken from the [[Iron Crown]] of [[Morgoth]] by [[Beren]] and [[Lúthien]], and it was later, after the [[Hunting of the Wolf]] and the slaing of [[Carcharoth]], given to [[Elu Thingol]] of [[Doriath]]. It remained in the treasury of Thingol, and he desired to have it always at hand.	+	The [[Quest for the Silmaril]] resulted the one of the [[Silmaril]]s taken from the [[Iron Crown]] of [[Morgoth]] by [[Beren]] and [[Lúthien]], and it was later, after the [[Hunting of the Wolf]] and the slaing of [[Carcharoth]], given to [[Thingol\|Elu Thingol]] of [[Doriath]]. It remained in the treasury of Thingol, and he desired to have it always at hand.

	After some years, [[Hurin]] was releast by Morgoth and was let to go wherever he he may desire. Hurin then desired revenge for him and his family, and came first to [[Nargothrond]], and there he found [[Mim]] and killed him. From all the treasures he took only [[Nauglamir]], the Necklace of the Dwarves, and brought it to Thingol.		After some years, [[Hurin]] was releast by Morgoth and was let to go wherever he he may desire. Hurin then desired revenge for him and his family, and came first to [[Nargothrond]], and there he found [[Mim]] and killed him. From all the treasures he took only [[Nauglamir]], the Necklace of the Dwarves, and brought it to Thingol.

Mith: re-linked Luthien

2011-01-12T22:20:03Z

re-linked Luthien

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	== Events Prior to the Battle ==		== Events Prior to the Battle ==
−	The [[Quest for the Silmaril]] resulted the one of the [[Silmaril]]s taken from the [[Iron Crown]] of [[Morgoth]] by [[Beren]] and [[~~Luthien~~]], and it was later, after the [[Hunting of the Wolf]] and the slaing of [[Carcharoth]], given to [[Elu Thingol]] of [[Doriath]]. It remained in the treasury of Thingol, and he desired to have it always at hand.	+	The [[Quest for the Silmaril]] resulted the one of the [[Silmaril]]s taken from the [[Iron Crown]] of [[Morgoth]] by [[Beren]] and [[Lúthien]], and it was later, after the [[Hunting of the Wolf]] and the slaing of [[Carcharoth]], given to [[Elu Thingol]] of [[Doriath]]. It remained in the treasury of Thingol, and he desired to have it always at hand.

	After some years, [[Hurin]] was releast by Morgoth and was let to go wherever he he may desire. Hurin then desired revenge for him and his family, and came first to [[Nargothrond]], and there he found [[Mim]] and killed him. From all the treasures he took only [[Nauglamir]], the Necklace of the Dwarves, and brought it to Thingol.		After some years, [[Hurin]] was releast by Morgoth and was let to go wherever he he may desire. Hurin then desired revenge for him and his family, and came first to [[Nargothrond]], and there he found [[Mim]] and killed him. From all the treasures he took only [[Nauglamir]], the Necklace of the Dwarves, and brought it to Thingol.

Mith: Added {{fact]} - we need to source succh specifc troop numbers

2010-10-20T09:50:27Z

Added {{fact]} - we need to source succh specifc troop numbers

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−	image=\|	+	\| image=
−	name=Battle of the Thousand Caves\|	+	\| name=Battle of the Thousand Caves
−	conflict=[[Sack of Doriath]]\|	+	\| conflict=[[Sack of Doriath]]
−	date=~~[[First Age 503~~ \| 503~~]] FA\|~~	+	\| date={{FA\|503}}
−	place=The Elven city of [[Menegroth]]\|	+	\| place=The Elven city of [[Menegroth]]
−	result=Victory for the Dwarves\|	+	\| result=Victory for the Dwarves
−	side1=Elves\|	+	\| side1=Elves
−	side2=Dwarves\|	+	\| side2=Dwarves
−	commanders1=\|	+	\| commanders1=
−	commanders2=* King [[Naugladur]]\|	+	\| commanders2=* King [[Naugladur]]
−	forces1=The entire strength of Doriath, which hadn't participated in any wars since the beginning of the First Age. Probably 30,000 Elves, although not all would've been armed or trained.\|	+	\| forces1=The entire strength of Doriath, which hadn't participated in any wars since the beginning of the First Age. Probably 30,000 Elves, although not all would've been armed or trained{{fact}}
−	forces2=~~Unnown~~, Est. 20-40,000\|	+	\| forces2=Unknown, Est. 20-40,000{{fact}}
−	casual1=	+	\| casual1=Fairly heavy. Although the Dwarves wouldn't have slain all of them, they did break in and sack Menegroth, leading us to believe that the majority of the Elven Army was destroyed. Probably upwards of 20,000{{fact}}
−	Fairly heavy. Although the Dwarves wouldn't have slain all of them, they did break in and sack Menegroth, leading us to believe that the majority of the Elven Army was destroyed. Probably upwards of 20,000.\|	+	\| casual2=Heavy, Est. 10,000 or more{{fact}}
−	casual2=	+	}}The ''' Battle of the Thousand Caves''' was a battle between the [[Dwarves of Nogrod]] and the [[Sindar\|Elves of Menegroth]].
−	Heavy, Est. 10,000 or more\|	+
−	}}	+
−		+
−	The ''' Battle of the Thousand Caves''' was a battle between the [[Dwarves of Nogrod]] and the [[Sindar\|Elves of Menegroth]].	+
−		+

	== Events Prior to the Battle ==		== Events Prior to the Battle ==

Tar-Alcarin at 11:47, 18 October 2010

2010-10-18T11:47:42Z

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	commanders1=\|		commanders1=\|
	commanders2=* King [[Naugladur]]\|		commanders2=* King [[Naugladur]]\|
−	forces1=~~Unknown~~, ~~thousands~~\|	+	forces1=The entire strength of Doriath, which hadn't participated in any wars since the beginning of the First Age. Probably 30,000 Elves, although not all would've been armed or trained.\|
−	forces2=~~Uknown~~, Est. 20-40,000\|	+	forces2=Unnown, Est. 20-40,000\|
	casual1=		casual1=
−	~~Thousands~~ of ~~soldiers~~ and ~~civilians~~\|	+	Fairly heavy. Although the Dwarves wouldn't have slain all of them, they did break in and sack Menegroth, leading us to believe that the majority of the Elven Army was destroyed. Probably upwards of 20,000.\|
	casual2=		casual2=
	Heavy, Est. 10,000 or more\|		Heavy, Est. 10,000 or more\|

212.73.82.183 at 12:48, 22 June 2010

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−	The ''' Battle of the Thousand Caves''' was a battle between the [[Dwarves of Nogrod]] and the [[Elves of Menegroth]].	+	The ''' Battle of the Thousand Caves''' was a battle between the [[Dwarves of Nogrod]] and the [[Sindar\|Elves of Menegroth]].

212.73.82.183: /* The Battle */

2010-06-22T12:46:49Z

The Battle

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	== The Battle ==		== The Battle ==
−	The Dwarves entered [[Menegroth]] and began fighting in the Thousand Caves. We don't know much about the battle, but we know that the losses were heavy on the both sides. Mablung was defending the treasury were the [[~~Nagulamir~~]] lay, and there he was killed before it's doors, and the Silmaril was taken. After the Nauglamir was in the hands of the [[Dwarves]], they retreated from [[Menegroth]] and began their way home, to the mountains of [[Ered-Lindon]].	+	The Dwarves entered [[Menegroth]] and began fighting in the Thousand Caves. We don't know much about the battle, but we know that the losses were heavy on the both sides. Mablung was defending the treasury were the [[Nauglamir]] lay, and there he was killed before it's doors, and the Silmaril was taken. After the Nauglamir was in the hands of the [[Dwarves]], they retreated from [[Menegroth]] and began their way home, to the mountains of [[Ered Lindon]].

	== Aftermath and Repercussions ==		== Aftermath and Repercussions ==

212.73.82.183: /* The Battle */

2010-06-22T12:41:29Z

The Battle

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	== The Battle ==		== The Battle ==
−		+	The Dwarves entered [[Menegroth]] and began fighting in the Thousand Caves. We don't know much about the battle, but we know that the losses were heavy on the both sides. Mablung was defending the treasury were the [[Nagulamir]] lay, and there he was killed before it's doors, and the Silmaril was taken. After the Nauglamir was in the hands of the [[Dwarves]], they retreated from [[Menegroth]] and began their way home, to the mountains of [[Ered-Lindon]].

	== Aftermath and Repercussions ==		== Aftermath and Repercussions ==

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	commanders1=\|		commanders1=\|
	commanders2=* King [[Naugladur]]\|		commanders2=* King [[Naugladur]]\|
−	forces1=~~Unknown~~, ~~thousands~~\|	+	forces1=The entire strength of Doriath, which hadn't participated in any wars since the beginning of the First Age. Probably 30,000 Elves, although not all would've been armed or trained.\|
−	forces2=~~Uknown~~, Est. 20-40,000\|	+	forces2=Unnown, Est. 20-40,000\|
	casual1=		casual1=
−	~~Thousands~~ of ~~soldiers~~ and ~~civilians~~\|	+	Fairly heavy. Although the Dwarves wouldn't have slain all of them, they did break in and sack Menegroth, leading us to believe that the majority of the Elven Army was destroyed. Probably upwards of 20,000.\|
	casual2=		casual2=
	Heavy, Est. 10,000 or more\|		Heavy, Est. 10,000 or more\|