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	\| birth=Uncertain, see [[#Controversy\|below]]		\| birth=Uncertain, see [[#Controversy\|below]]
	\| realm=[[Doriath]], [[Lindon]], [[Eregion]], [[Lothlórien]]		\| realm=[[Doriath]], [[Lindon]], [[Eregion]], [[Lothlórien]]
−	\| ~~death~~=~~Did not die; sailed~~ [[~~Valinor\|West~~]] ~~in the early~~ [[~~Fourth Age~~]]	+	\| sailedwest=Early [[Fourth Age]]
		+	\| sailedfrom=[[Grey Havens]]
	\| spouse=[[Galadriel]]		\| spouse=[[Galadriel]]
	\| children=[[Celebrían]]		\| children=[[Celebrían]]

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	[[Robert Foster]] mentions that although Celeborn is famed and named "the Wise", "he does not seem especially bright" in ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]''<ref>[[Robert Foster]], ''[[The Complete Guide to Middle-earth]]'', entry "Celeborn"</ref>.		[[Robert Foster]] mentions that although Celeborn is famed and named "the Wise", "he does not seem especially bright" in ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]''<ref>[[Robert Foster]], ''[[The Complete Guide to Middle-earth]]'', entry "Celeborn"</ref>.

−	In his first writings (which make up the bulk of the matter of Celeborn), the elf-lord is portrayed as a kinsman of Thingol, and met Galadriel when she came with the Noldor into exile. This was the approach chosen by [[Christopher Tolkien]] and [[Guy Kay]] for ''[[The Silmarillion]]''. In a brief, speculative paper written by Tolkien included in ''[[Unfinished Tales]]'', Celeborn is made Thingol’s grandnephew, by the King’s brother [[Elmo]]. Elmo, also linked to Círdan, appears nowhere else in the legendarium.	+	In his first writings (which make up the bulk of the matter of Celeborn), the elf-lord is portrayed as a kinsman of Thingol, and met Galadriel when she came with the Noldor into exile. This was the approach chosen by [[Christopher Tolkien]] and [[Guy Gavriel Kay]] for ''[[The Silmarillion]]''. In a brief, speculative paper written by Tolkien included in ''[[Unfinished Tales]]'', Celeborn is made Thingol’s grandnephew, by the King’s brother [[Elmo]]. Elmo, also linked to Círdan, appears nowhere else in the legendarium.

	A Sindarin origin as Elmo's grandson has been the most widely accepted one of all but Celeborn as a Telerin prince seems a late development, and there is some dispute as to which is the more canonical.		A Sindarin origin as Elmo's grandson has been the most widely accepted one of all but Celeborn as a Telerin prince seems a late development, and there is some dispute as to which is the more canonical.

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	==Portrayal in adaptations==		==Portrayal in adaptations==
−	[[File:Celeborn.jpg\|thumb\|~~350px~~\|Celeborn's appearance in ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]''.]]	+	[[File:Celeborn.jpg\|thumb\|250px\|Celeborn's appearance in ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]''.]]
	'''1978: ''[[The Lord of the Rings (1978 film)\|The Lord of the Rings]]'':'''		'''1978: ''[[The Lord of the Rings (1978 film)\|The Lord of the Rings]]'':'''
	:Celeborn did not have a speaking role. He only appeared beside [[Galadriel]] for a brief shot.		:Celeborn did not have a speaking role. He only appeared beside [[Galadriel]] for a brief shot.

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	===Second Age===		===Second Age===
−	After the [[War of wrath\|fall of Beleriand]], Celeborn and Galadriel came to [[Lindon]] the coastal region west of the Blue Mountains. Celeborn ruled the fief of [[Harlindon]], which was composed mostly of Sindar, under the [[Gil-galad\|High King Gil-galad]]. They eventually came to [[Eregion]] where they dwelt for a time with [[Celebrimbor]] and the jewelsmiths of [[Gwaith-i-Mírdain]]. After Celebrimbor had largely taken over, they made contact with the [[Nandor]] of [[Lórinand]], across the [[Hithaeglir]]. Not long after they went through [[Khazad-dûm]] to live there, becoming great among its people.	+	After the [[War of wrath\|fall of Beleriand]], Celeborn and Galadriel came to [[Lindon]] the coastal region west of the Blue Mountains. Celeborn ruled the fief of [[Harlindon]], which was composed mostly of Sindar, under the [[Gil-galad\|High King Gil-galad]].<ref>{{PM\|X}}</ref> They eventually came to [[Eregion]] where they dwelt for a time with [[Celebrimbor]] and the jewelsmiths of [[Gwaith-i-Mírdain]]. After Celebrimbor had largely taken over, they made contact with the [[Nandor]] of [[Lórinand]], across the [[Hithaeglir]]. Not long after they went through [[Khazad-dûm]] to live there, becoming great among its people.

	===Third Age===		===Third Age===

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	In the early [[Years of the Sun]] Finrod and [[Galadriel]] came to Doriath as guests of [[Elu Thingol]], the King of Doriath. There Celeborn and Galadriel met, fell in love and were wedded. Galadriel remained in Doriath with Celeborn after [[Finrod]] went to the [[Caverns of Narog]] to establish the stronghold of [[Nargothrond]]. <ref name="Sil-13"/>		In the early [[Years of the Sun]] Finrod and [[Galadriel]] came to Doriath as guests of [[Elu Thingol]], the King of Doriath. There Celeborn and Galadriel met, fell in love and were wedded. Galadriel remained in Doriath with Celeborn after [[Finrod]] went to the [[Caverns of Narog]] to establish the stronghold of [[Nargothrond]]. <ref name="Sil-13"/>

−	For the rest of the [[First Age]] Celeborn and Galadriel are not mentioned to have played any significant role in the general course of events of the Age, while their relatives, both Sindarin and Noldorin did. The only thing that can be said for sure, is that the couple survived the [[Wars of Beleriand]], including the [[Sack of Doriath]] by the [[Sons of Feanor]]. They may have escaped to the [[Havens of Sirion\|Havens]] or the [[Isle of Balar]].	+	For the rest of the [[First Age]] Celeborn and Galadriel are not mentioned to have played any significant role in the general course of events of the Age, while their relatives, both Sindarin and Noldorin did. The only thing that can be said for sure, is that the couple survived the [[Wars of Beleriand]], including the [[Sack of Doriath]] by the [[Sons of Feanor]]<ref>{{S\|24}}</ref>. They may have escaped to the [[Havens of Sirion\|Havens]] or the [[Isle of Balar]].

	===Second Age===		===Second Age===

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	==History==		==History==
	===Early life===		===Early life===
−	Celeborn was a [[Sindar\|Sindarin]] prince from [[Doriath]], the grandson of [[Elmo]] (the brother of [[Thingol\|Elwe/Thingol]])<ref>{{S\|13}}</ref> There has been many debates about his origins and early life. See ''[[#Controversy\|Controversy]]''.	+	Celeborn was a [[Sindar\|Sindarin]] prince from [[Doriath]], the grandson of [[Elmo]] (the brother of [[Thingol\|Elwe/Thingol]])<ref name="Sil-13">{{S\|13}}</ref> There has been many debates about his origins and early life. See ''[[#Controversy\|Controversy]]''.

	===First Age===		===First Age===
−	~~{{sources}}~~
	[[File:Līga Kļaviņa - Love at First Sight.jpg\|left\|thumb\|''Love at First Sight'' by Līga Kļaviņa]]		[[File:Līga Kļaviņa - Love at First Sight.jpg\|left\|thumb\|''Love at First Sight'' by Līga Kļaviņa]]
−	In the early [[Years of the Sun]] Finrod and [[Galadriel]] came to Doriath as guests of [[Elu Thingol]], the King of Doriath. There Celeborn and Galadriel met, fell in love and were wedded. Galadriel remained in Doriath with Celeborn after [[Finrod]] went to the [[Caverns of Narog]] to establish the stronghold of [[Nargothrond]].	+	In the early [[Years of the Sun]] Finrod and [[Galadriel]] came to Doriath as guests of [[Elu Thingol]], the King of Doriath. There Celeborn and Galadriel met, fell in love and were wedded. Galadriel remained in Doriath with Celeborn after [[Finrod]] went to the [[Caverns of Narog]] to establish the stronghold of [[Nargothrond]]. <ref name="Sil-13"/>

	For the rest of the [[First Age]] Celeborn and Galadriel are not mentioned to have played any significant role in the general course of events of the Age, while their relatives, both Sindarin and Noldorin did. The only thing that can be said for sure, is that the couple survived the [[Wars of Beleriand]], including the [[Sack of Doriath]] by the [[Sons of Feanor]]. They may have escaped to the [[Havens of Sirion\|Havens]] or the [[Isle of Balar]].		For the rest of the [[First Age]] Celeborn and Galadriel are not mentioned to have played any significant role in the general course of events of the Age, while their relatives, both Sindarin and Noldorin did. The only thing that can be said for sure, is that the couple survived the [[Wars of Beleriand]], including the [[Sack of Doriath]] by the [[Sons of Feanor]]. They may have escaped to the [[Havens of Sirion\|Havens]] or the [[Isle of Balar]].

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		+	{{sources}}
	[[File:Līga Kļaviņa - Love at First Sight.jpg\|left\|thumb\|''Love at First Sight'' by Līga Kļaviņa]]		[[File:Līga Kļaviņa - Love at First Sight.jpg\|left\|thumb\|''Love at First Sight'' by Līga Kļaviņa]]
	In the early [[Years of the Sun]] Finrod and [[Galadriel]] came to Doriath as guests of [[Elu Thingol]], the King of Doriath. There Celeborn and Galadriel met, fell in love and were wedded. Galadriel remained in Doriath with Celeborn after [[Finrod]] went to the [[Caverns of Narog]] to establish the stronghold of [[Nargothrond]].		In the early [[Years of the Sun]] Finrod and [[Galadriel]] came to Doriath as guests of [[Elu Thingol]], the King of Doriath. There Celeborn and Galadriel met, fell in love and were wedded. Galadriel remained in Doriath with Celeborn after [[Finrod]] went to the [[Caverns of Narog]] to establish the stronghold of [[Nargothrond]].

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−	In ~~Early~~ [[~~First Age~~]] Finrod and [[Galadriel]] came to Doriath as guests of [[Elu Thingol]], the King of Doriath. There Celeborn and Galadriel fell in love and were wedded. Galadriel remained in Doriath with Celeborn after [[Finrod]] went to the Caverns of Narog to establish the stronghold of [[Nargothrond]]. For the rest of the [[First Age]] Celeborn and Galadriel ~~appear~~ to have ~~remained largely inactive, not affecting~~ the course of events ~~in [[Beleriand]] so much as~~ their relatives, both Sindarin and Noldorin. It is ~~not mentioned whether Celeborn and Galadriel were present at~~ the [[Sack of Doriath]]. They may have escaped to the [[Havens of Sirion\|Havens]] or the [[Isle of Balar]].	+	In the early [[Years of the Sun]] Finrod and [[Galadriel]] came to Doriath as guests of [[Elu Thingol]], the King of Doriath. There Celeborn and Galadriel met, fell in love and were wedded. Galadriel remained in Doriath with Celeborn after [[Finrod]] went to the [[Caverns of Narog]] to establish the stronghold of [[Nargothrond]].
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		+	For the rest of the [[First Age]] Celeborn and Galadriel are not mentioned to have played any significant role in the general course of events of the Age, while their relatives, both Sindarin and Noldorin did. The only thing that can be said for sure, is that the couple survived the [[Wars of Beleriand]], including the [[Sack of Doriath]] by the [[Sons of Feanor]]. They may have escaped to the [[Havens of Sirion\|Havens]] or the [[Isle of Balar]].

	===Second Age===		===Second Age===

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	Celeborn and Galadriel produced a daughter named [[Celebrían]], who later married [[Elrond]] Half-elven of [[Rivendell]], thus making Celeborn and her wife Galadriel the grandparents of the twins [[Elladan]] and [[Elrohir]] and their younger sister [[Arwen Undómiel]]. Celebrían's exact date and place of birth are not specified.		Celeborn and Galadriel produced a daughter named [[Celebrían]], who later married [[Elrond]] Half-elven of [[Rivendell]], thus making Celeborn and her wife Galadriel the grandparents of the twins [[Elladan]] and [[Elrohir]] and their younger sister [[Arwen Undómiel]]. Celebrían's exact date and place of birth are not specified.
	[[File:Rowena Morrill - The Swan-Boat of Galadriel.jpg\|thumb\|left\|''Galadriel and Celeborn'' as drawn by Rowena Morrill.]]		[[File:Rowena Morrill - The Swan-Boat of Galadriel.jpg\|thumb\|left\|''Galadriel and Celeborn'' as drawn by Rowena Morrill.]]
−	In response to the growing threat of [[Dol Guldur]], the [[White Council]] was formed in {{TA\|2463}}. Galadriel was on it; it is likely that Celeborn was also a member. Some time after, during ~~the calm before~~ the [[War of the Ring]] in {{TA\|3019}}), Lórien received the [[Fellowship of the Ring]], composed of various ~~characters~~ on the quest to destroy the One Ring. He offered advice, and boats for the [[Anduin]], speeding them on their way.	+	In response to the growing threat of [[Dol Guldur]], the [[White Council]] was formed in {{TA\|2463}}. Galadriel was on it; it is likely that Celeborn was also a member. Some time after, during the [[War of the Ring]] in {{TA\|3019}}, Lórien received the [[Fellowship of the Ring]], composed of various travelers on the quest to destroy the [[One Ring]]. He offered advice, and boats for the [[Anduin]], speeding them on their way.

−	Celeborn's most significant recorded actions came in the year following, when he repulsed three attacks by [[orcs]] of [[Dol Guldur]]. Celeborn then ~~marshall~~ his forces to cross the Anduin and [[Fall of Dol Guldur\|lay siege to Dol Guldur]]. He captured the fortress, and Galadriel threw down its walls and purified it.	+	Celeborn's most significant recorded actions came in the [[Third Age 3020\|year following]], when he repulsed three attacks by [[orcs]] of [[Dol Guldur]]. Celeborn then marshalled his forces to cross the Anduin and [[Fall of Dol Guldur\|lay siege to Dol Guldur]]. He captured the fortress, and Galadriel threw down its walls and purified it.

	===After the War of the Ring===		===After the War of the Ring===

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−	[[File:~~Rowena Morrill~~ - ~~The Swan-Boat of Galadriel~~.jpg\|thumb~~\|left~~\|''~~Galadriel and Celeborn~~'' ~~as drawn~~ by ~~Rowena Morrill.~~]]	+	[[File:Līga Kļaviņa - Love at First Sight.jpg\|left\|thumb\|''Love at First Sight'' by Līga Kļaviņa]]
	In Early [[First Age]] Finrod and [[Galadriel]] came to Doriath as guests of [[Elu Thingol]], the King of Doriath. There Celeborn and Galadriel fell in love and were wedded. Galadriel remained in Doriath with Celeborn after [[Finrod]] went to the Caverns of Narog to establish the stronghold of [[Nargothrond]]. For the rest of the [[First Age]] Celeborn and Galadriel appear to have remained largely inactive, not affecting the course of events in [[Beleriand]] so much as their relatives, both Sindarin and Noldorin. It is not mentioned whether Celeborn and Galadriel were present at the [[Sack of Doriath]]. They may have escaped to the [[Havens of Sirion\|Havens]] or the [[Isle of Balar]].		In Early [[First Age]] Finrod and [[Galadriel]] came to Doriath as guests of [[Elu Thingol]], the King of Doriath. There Celeborn and Galadriel fell in love and were wedded. Galadriel remained in Doriath with Celeborn after [[Finrod]] went to the Caverns of Narog to establish the stronghold of [[Nargothrond]]. For the rest of the [[First Age]] Celeborn and Galadriel appear to have remained largely inactive, not affecting the course of events in [[Beleriand]] so much as their relatives, both Sindarin and Noldorin. It is not mentioned whether Celeborn and Galadriel were present at the [[Sack of Doriath]]. They may have escaped to the [[Havens of Sirion\|Havens]] or the [[Isle of Balar]].

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−	After the [[Sack of Eregion]], Celeborn and Galadriel came to Lórinand, the land of [[Silvan Elves]] on the eastern side of the Misty Mountains which was ruled by King [[Amdir]]. When Amdir died in the [[Battle of Dagorlad]], his son [[Amroth]] succeeded him. In early Third Age Amroth was weary of Middle-earth and wished to sail to the [[Valinor\|West]]. He departed to [[Edhellond]] and by the year ~~[[Third Age 1981~~\|1981 ~~T.A]]~~. King Amroth drowned in the Bay of Belfalas. Celeborn and Galadriel took the title [[Lord and Lady]] of Lothlórien, the [[Sindarin]] name for Lórinand and together they built [[Caras Galadhon]].	+	After the [[Sack of Eregion]], Celeborn and Galadriel came to Lórinand, the land of [[Silvan Elves]] on the eastern side of the Misty Mountains which was ruled by King [[Amdir]]. When Amdir died in the [[Battle of Dagorlad]], his son [[Amroth]] succeeded him. In early Third Age Amroth was weary of Middle-earth and wished to sail to the [[Valinor\|West]]. He departed to [[Edhellond]] and by the year {{TA\|1981}}. King Amroth drowned in the Bay of Belfalas. Celeborn and Galadriel took the title [[Lord and Lady]] of Lothlórien, the [[Sindarin]] name for Lórinand and together they built [[Caras Galadhon]].

	Celeborn and Galadriel produced a daughter named [[Celebrían]], who later married [[Elrond]] Half-elven of [[Rivendell]], thus making Celeborn and her wife Galadriel the grandparents of the twins [[Elladan]] and [[Elrohir]] and their younger sister [[Arwen Undómiel]]. Celebrían's exact date and place of birth are not specified.		Celeborn and Galadriel produced a daughter named [[Celebrían]], who later married [[Elrond]] Half-elven of [[Rivendell]], thus making Celeborn and her wife Galadriel the grandparents of the twins [[Elladan]] and [[Elrohir]] and their younger sister [[Arwen Undómiel]]. Celebrían's exact date and place of birth are not specified.
−		+	[[File:Rowena Morrill - The Swan-Boat of Galadriel.jpg\|thumb\|left\|''Galadriel and Celeborn'' as drawn by Rowena Morrill.]]
−	In response to the growing threat of [[Dol Guldur]], the [[White Council]] was formed in ~~[[Third Age 2463~~\|~~T.A.~~ 2463]]. Galadriel was on it; it is likely that Celeborn was also a member. Some time after, during the calm before the [[War of the Ring]] in ~~[[Third Age 3019~~\|~~T.A.~~ 3019]]), Lórien received the [[Fellowship of the Ring]], composed of various characters on the quest to destroy the One Ring. He offered advice, and boats for the [[Anduin]], speeding them on their way.	+	In response to the growing threat of [[Dol Guldur]], the [[White Council]] was formed in {{TA\|2463}}. Galadriel was on it; it is likely that Celeborn was also a member. Some time after, during the calm before the [[War of the Ring]] in {{TA\|3019}}), Lórien received the [[Fellowship of the Ring]], composed of various characters on the quest to destroy the One Ring. He offered advice, and boats for the [[Anduin]], speeding them on their way.

	Celeborn's most significant recorded actions came in the year following, when he repulsed three attacks by [[orcs]] of [[Dol Guldur]]. Celeborn then marshall his forces to cross the Anduin and [[Fall of Dol Guldur\|lay siege to Dol Guldur]]. He captured the fortress, and Galadriel threw down its walls and purified it.		Celeborn's most significant recorded actions came in the year following, when he repulsed three attacks by [[orcs]] of [[Dol Guldur]]. Celeborn then marshall his forces to cross the Anduin and [[Fall of Dol Guldur\|lay siege to Dol Guldur]]. He captured the fortress, and Galadriel threw down its walls and purified it.