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	:Not all of the mentioned people were present. Glorfindel, Glóin, Erestor, Galdor were omitted.		:Not all of the mentioned people were present. Glorfindel, Glóin, Erestor, Galdor were omitted.

−	'''1981: ''[[The Lord of the Rings (1981 radio series)\|~~BBC Radio~~'s The Lord of the Rings]]'':'''	+	'''1981: [[The Lord of the Rings (1981 radio series)\|''The Lord of the Rings'' (1981 radio series)]]:'''
	:The Council of Elrond begins without introduction in the sixth episode. Glóin, Galdor and Erestor are omitted.		:The Council of Elrond begins without introduction in the sixth episode. Glóin, Galdor and Erestor are omitted.

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	:The composition of the Company of the Ring was decided at the council. Sam was not the only one eavesdropping; Merry and Pippin were with him doing the same.		:The composition of the Company of the Ring was decided at the council. Sam was not the only one eavesdropping; Merry and Pippin were with him doing the same.

−	'''2002: ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (video game)\|~~Vivendi~~'s The Fellowship of the Ring]]'':'''	+	'''2002: [[The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (video game)\|''The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring'' (video game)]]:'''
	:Only Elrond, Legolas, Gimli, Boromir, Aragorn, Gandalf and Frodo are mentioned, though the other three Hobbits are also present. The first seven are quickly chosen, but as Elrond tells of two great warriors, Merry and Pippin barge in.		:Only Elrond, Legolas, Gimli, Boromir, Aragorn, Gandalf and Frodo are mentioned, though the other three Hobbits are also present. The first seven are quickly chosen, but as Elrond tells of two great warriors, Merry and Pippin barge in.

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	:Not much is known, as information only runs up to the chapter ''[[Many Meetings]]'', but it can at least be deduced that Glóin was present.		:Not much is known, as information only runs up to the chapter ''[[Many Meetings]]'', but it can at least be deduced that Glóin was present.

−	'''1978: ''[[The Lord of the Rings (1978 film)]]'':'''	+	'''1978: [[The Lord of the Rings (1978 film)\|''The Lord of the Rings'' (1978 film)]]:'''
	:Not all of the mentioned people were present. Glorfindel, Glóin, Erestor, Galdor were omitted.		:Not all of the mentioned people were present. Glorfindel, Glóin, Erestor, Galdor were omitted.

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	At the Council, Gandalf, Elrond and Bilbo told the history of the Ring to all. At hearing the potential of "Isildur's Bane", Boromir opted to use the Ring to defend his native [[Gondor]], and overthrow [[Sauron]], its creator. Gandalf and Elrond were against it, and stated that the Ring was the essence of Sauron, and thus would corrupt and ultimately destroy whoever tried to use it. Eventually Gandalf felt it necessary to employ shock tactics by reciting the [[Ring-inscription]] in [[Black Speech]], angering Elrond in the process.		At the Council, Gandalf, Elrond and Bilbo told the history of the Ring to all. At hearing the potential of "Isildur's Bane", Boromir opted to use the Ring to defend his native [[Gondor]], and overthrow [[Sauron]], its creator. Gandalf and Elrond were against it, and stated that the Ring was the essence of Sauron, and thus would corrupt and ultimately destroy whoever tried to use it. Eventually Gandalf felt it necessary to employ shock tactics by reciting the [[Ring-inscription]] in [[Black Speech]], angering Elrond in the process.

−	The fate of the Ring was considered, and several solutions were proposed. It was suggested to give it to [[~~Tomb~~ Bombadil]] who could not be corrupted, or to send it to [[Valinor]] under the guardianship of the [[Valar]] and the [[High Elves]]. But it was deemed that the Ring could not be hidden or disposed, as it would remain dangerous for the generations to come. ~~Furthermore the Ring was indestructible as it could be unmade only where it was created: the [[Crack of Doom]] in [[Mount Doom]]~~	+	The fate of the Ring was considered. The Ring was indestructible as it could be unmade only where it was created, in the [[Crack of Doom]] in [[Mount Doom]], and several solutions were proposed. It was suggested to give it to [[Tom Bombadil]] who could not be corrupted, or to send it to [[Valinor]] under the guardianship of the [[Valar]] and the [[High Elves]]. But it was deemed that the Ring could not be hidden or disposed, as it would remain dangerous for the generations to come.

−	Eventually it was decided that the only way to be free of Sauron and the Ring was to cast the Ring ~~there~~.	+	Eventually it was decided that the only way to be free of Sauron and the Ring was to cast the Ring where it was made.

	It then became necessary to decide who should take responsibility for such a perilous undertaking. Bilbo offered to finish the job he had started, but Gandalf told him he could not take back the Ring due to having possessing it for some time. Eventually Frodo surprised everyone including himself by telling them he would take the Ring. After some thought Elrond agreed. At this point Sam emerged from hiding and demanded to accompany Frodo, and since it was hardly possible to separate them Elrond agreed.		It then became necessary to decide who should take responsibility for such a perilous undertaking. Bilbo offered to finish the job he had started, but Gandalf told him he could not take back the Ring due to having possessing it for some time. Eventually Frodo surprised everyone including himself by telling them he would take the Ring. After some thought Elrond agreed. At this point Sam emerged from hiding and demanded to accompany Frodo, and since it was hardly possible to separate them Elrond agreed.

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	At the Council, Gandalf, Elrond and Bilbo told the history of the Ring to all. At hearing the potential of "Isildur's Bane", Boromir opted to use the Ring to defend his native [[Gondor]], and overthrow [[Sauron]], its creator. Gandalf and Elrond were against it, and stated that the Ring was the essence of Sauron, and thus would corrupt and ultimately destroy whoever tried to use it. Eventually Gandalf felt it necessary to employ shock tactics by reciting the [[Ring-inscription]] in [[Black Speech]], angering Elrond in the process.		At the Council, Gandalf, Elrond and Bilbo told the history of the Ring to all. At hearing the potential of "Isildur's Bane", Boromir opted to use the Ring to defend his native [[Gondor]], and overthrow [[Sauron]], its creator. Gandalf and Elrond were against it, and stated that the Ring was the essence of Sauron, and thus would corrupt and ultimately destroy whoever tried to use it. Eventually Gandalf felt it necessary to employ shock tactics by reciting the [[Ring-inscription]] in [[Black Speech]], angering Elrond in the process.

−	~~Eventually it was decided that~~ the ~~only way~~ to be ~~free~~ of ~~Sauron~~ and the ~~Ring~~ was to ~~cast~~ the Ring ~~into~~ the [[Crack of Doom]] in [[Mount Doom]].	+	The fate of the Ring was considered, and several solutions were proposed. It was suggested to give it to [[Tomb Bombadil]] who could not be corrupted, or to send it to [[Valinor]] under the guardianship of the [[Valar]] and the [[High Elves]]. But it was deemed that the Ring could not be hidden or disposed, as it would remain dangerous for the generations to come. Furthermore the Ring was indestructible as it could be unmade only where it was created: the [[Crack of Doom]] in [[Mount Doom]]
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		+	Eventually it was decided that the only way to be free of Sauron and the Ring was to cast the Ring there.

	It then became necessary to decide who should take responsibility for such a perilous undertaking. Bilbo offered to finish the job he had started, but Gandalf told him he could not take back the Ring due to having possessing it for some time. Eventually Frodo surprised everyone including himself by telling them he would take the Ring. After some thought Elrond agreed. At this point Sam emerged from hiding and demanded to accompany Frodo, and since it was hardly possible to separate them Elrond agreed.		It then became necessary to decide who should take responsibility for such a perilous undertaking. Bilbo offered to finish the job he had started, but Gandalf told him he could not take back the Ring due to having possessing it for some time. Eventually Frodo surprised everyone including himself by telling them he would take the Ring. After some thought Elrond agreed. At this point Sam emerged from hiding and demanded to accompany Frodo, and since it was hardly possible to separate them Elrond agreed.

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	{{disambig-more\|Council of Elrond\|[[The Council of Elrond (disambiguation)]]}}		{{disambig-more\|Council of Elrond\|[[The Council of Elrond (disambiguation)]]}}
	[[Image:Michael Kaluta - Elrond Recalls the Host of Gilgalad.jpg\|thumb\|250px\|''Elrond Recalls the Host of Gil-galad'', by [[Michael Kaluta]].]]		[[Image:Michael Kaluta - Elrond Recalls the Host of Gilgalad.jpg\|thumb\|250px\|''Elrond Recalls the Host of Gil-galad'', by [[Michael Kaluta]].]]
−	The '''Council of Elrond''' was a council called and led by [[Elrond]], held on [[25 October\|October 25]], ~~[[Third Age 3018~~\|~~T.A.~~ 3018]] in [[Rivendell]]. The main purpose of the council was to discuss what should be done with [[the One Ring]], which ~~had resurfaced shortly before~~.	+	The '''Council of Elrond''' was a council called and led by [[Elrond]], held on [[25 October\|October 25]], {{TA\|3018}} in [[Rivendell]]. The main purpose of the council was to discuss what should be done with [[the One Ring]], which was brought there by the [[Ring-bearer]] [[Frodo Baggins]].
−	~~==History==~~	+
−	===Attendees===	+	==Attendees==
	The following people are known to have attended the Council:		The following people are known to have attended the Council:
	* Elrond. As convener of the council and de facto ruler of Rivendell, Elrond headed the Council.		* Elrond. As convener of the council and de facto ruler of Rivendell, Elrond headed the Council.
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	* [[Galdor of the Havens]], a messenger of [[Círdan]] who just happened to be present at the time. His role in the Council was no larger than asking a couple of questions.		* [[Galdor of the Havens]], a messenger of [[Círdan]] who just happened to be present at the time. His role in the Council was no larger than asking a couple of questions.

−	==~~=Events=~~==	+	==Procedure==
	At the Council, Gandalf, Elrond and Bilbo told the history of the Ring to all. At hearing the potential of "Isildur's Bane", Boromir opted to use the Ring to defend his native [[Gondor]], and overthrow [[Sauron]], its creator. Gandalf and Elrond were against it, and stated that the Ring was the essence of Sauron, and thus would corrupt and ultimately destroy whoever tried to use it. Eventually Gandalf felt it necessary to employ shock tactics by reciting the [[Ring-inscription]] in [[Black Speech]], angering Elrond in the process.		At the Council, Gandalf, Elrond and Bilbo told the history of the Ring to all. At hearing the potential of "Isildur's Bane", Boromir opted to use the Ring to defend his native [[Gondor]], and overthrow [[Sauron]], its creator. Gandalf and Elrond were against it, and stated that the Ring was the essence of Sauron, and thus would corrupt and ultimately destroy whoever tried to use it. Eventually Gandalf felt it necessary to employ shock tactics by reciting the [[Ring-inscription]] in [[Black Speech]], angering Elrond in the process.

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	* [[Glorfindel]], a [[Noldor\|Noldo]] of Rivendell who had aided Frodo earlier on his travel to Rivendell.		* [[Glorfindel]], a [[Noldor\|Noldo]] of Rivendell who had aided Frodo earlier on his travel to Rivendell.
	* [[Erestor]], and several unnamed advisors of Elrond's household.		* [[Erestor]], and several unnamed advisors of Elrond's household.
−	* [[Arwen]], the daughter of Elrond.
	* [[Aragorn]], a [[Rangers of the North\|Ranger]], [[Chieftain of the Dúnedain]] and [[Heir of Isildur]], who had been Frodo's travel companion, guide and aid since [[Bree]].		* [[Aragorn]], a [[Rangers of the North\|Ranger]], [[Chieftain of the Dúnedain]] and [[Heir of Isildur]], who had been Frodo's travel companion, guide and aid since [[Bree]].
	* [[Boromir]], son of the [[Denethor\|Steward of Gondor]]. His brother [[Faramir]] had a [[Seek for the Sword that was broken\|prophetic dream]] thrice, and he himself once. It spoke of "[[Narsil\|the Sword that was broken]], "[[Rivendell\|Imladris]]", "[[Isildur's Bane]]" and a "[[Hobbits\|Halfling]]". In order to find the meaning of the dream, Boromir went to "Imladris" - Rivendell.		* [[Boromir]], son of the [[Denethor\|Steward of Gondor]]. His brother [[Faramir]] had a [[Seek for the Sword that was broken\|prophetic dream]] thrice, and he himself once. It spoke of "[[Narsil\|the Sword that was broken]], "[[Rivendell\|Imladris]]", "[[Isildur's Bane]]" and a "[[Hobbits\|Halfling]]". In order to find the meaning of the dream, Boromir went to "Imladris" - Rivendell.

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	* [[Frodo Baggins]], the [[Ring-bearers\|Ring-bearer]], came to Rivendell on the advice of Gandalf.		* [[Frodo Baggins]], the [[Ring-bearers\|Ring-bearer]], came to Rivendell on the advice of Gandalf.
	* [[Bilbo Baggins]], a former Ring-bearer, and the "Ring-finder".		* [[Bilbo Baggins]], a former Ring-bearer, and the "Ring-finder".
−	* [[Glorfindel]], a [[Noldor\|Noldo]] who had aided Frodo earlier on his travel to Rivendell.	+	* [[Glorfindel]], a [[Noldor\|Noldo]] of Rivendell who had aided Frodo earlier on his travel to Rivendell.
	* [[Erestor]], and several unnamed advisors of Elrond's household.		* [[Erestor]], and several unnamed advisors of Elrond's household.
	* [[Arwen]], the daughter of Elrond.		* [[Arwen]], the daughter of Elrond.
−	* [[Aragorn]], a [[Rangers of the North\|Ranger]], [[~~Chieftains~~ of the Dúnedain]] and [[Heir of Isildur]], who had been Frodo's travel companion, guide and aid since [[Bree]].	+	* [[Aragorn]], a [[Rangers of the North\|Ranger]], [[Chieftain of the Dúnedain]] and [[Heir of Isildur]], who had been Frodo's travel companion, guide and aid since [[Bree]].
	* [[Boromir]], son of the [[Denethor\|Steward of Gondor]]. His brother [[Faramir]] had a [[Seek for the Sword that was broken\|prophetic dream]] thrice, and he himself once. It spoke of "[[Narsil\|the Sword that was broken]], "[[Rivendell\|Imladris]]", "[[Isildur's Bane]]" and a "[[Hobbits\|Halfling]]". In order to find the meaning of the dream, Boromir went to "Imladris" - Rivendell.		* [[Boromir]], son of the [[Denethor\|Steward of Gondor]]. His brother [[Faramir]] had a [[Seek for the Sword that was broken\|prophetic dream]] thrice, and he himself once. It spoke of "[[Narsil\|the Sword that was broken]], "[[Rivendell\|Imladris]]", "[[Isildur's Bane]]" and a "[[Hobbits\|Halfling]]". In order to find the meaning of the dream, Boromir went to "Imladris" - Rivendell.
−	* [[Glóin son of Gróin\|Glóin]] and his son [[Gimli]] were sent by [[Dáin Ironfoot\|Dáin II Ironfoot]] to warn Bilbo~~. Earlier,~~ a messenger from [[Mordor]] ~~had~~ appeared at the gate of [[Lonely Mountain\|Erebor]], and asked for information of the One Ring. As king [[Brand]] of [[Dale]] was also encountered, Dáin decided to send messengers to Rivendell. They also came to seek news of what happened to [[Balin's Colony]], which entered [[Moria]] thirty years before.	+	* [[Glóin son of Gróin\|Glóin]] and his son [[Gimli]] were sent by [[Dáin Ironfoot\|Dáin II Ironfoot]] to warn Bilbo about a messenger from [[Mordor]] who appeared at the gate of [[Lonely Mountain\|Erebor]], and asked for information of the One Ring. As king [[Brand]] of [[Dale]] was also encountered, Dáin decided to send messengers to Rivendell. They also came to seek news of what happened to [[Balin's Colony]], which entered [[Moria]] thirty years before.
−	* [[Legolas]], was sent by his father [[Thranduil]] with ill news. ~~Aragorn had placed~~ [[Gollum]] in the custody of the ~~Elves of~~ [[Mirkwood]], ~~but~~ after a surprise attack of [[Orcs]]~~, Gollum had managed to escape~~.	+	* [[Legolas]], was sent by his father [[Thranduil]] with ill news. [[Gollum]], put in the custody of the [[Elves of Mirkwood]] by Aragorn, managed to escape after a surprise attack of [[Orcs]].
	* [[Galdor of the Havens]], a messenger of [[Círdan]] who just happened to be present at the time. His role in the Council was no larger than asking a couple of questions.		* [[Galdor of the Havens]], a messenger of [[Círdan]] who just happened to be present at the time. His role in the Council was no larger than asking a couple of questions.

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	* [[Arwen]], the daughter of Elrond.		* [[Arwen]], the daughter of Elrond.
	* [[Aragorn]], a [[Rangers of the North\|Ranger]], [[Chieftains of the Dúnedain]] and [[Heir of Isildur]], who had been Frodo's travel companion, guide and aid since [[Bree]].		* [[Aragorn]], a [[Rangers of the North\|Ranger]], [[Chieftains of the Dúnedain]] and [[Heir of Isildur]], who had been Frodo's travel companion, guide and aid since [[Bree]].
−	* [[Boromir]], son of the [[Denethor II\|Steward of Gondor]]. His brother [[Faramir]] had a [[Seek for the Sword that was broken\|prophetic dream]] thrice, and he himself once. It spoke of "[[Narsil\|the Sword that was broken]], "[[Rivendell\|Imladris]]", "[[Isildur's Bane]]" and a "[[Hobbits\|Halfling]]". In order to find the meaning of the dream, Boromir went to "Imladris" - Rivendell.	+	* [[Boromir]], son of the [[Denethor\|Steward of Gondor]]. His brother [[Faramir]] had a [[Seek for the Sword that was broken\|prophetic dream]] thrice, and he himself once. It spoke of "[[Narsil\|the Sword that was broken]], "[[Rivendell\|Imladris]]", "[[Isildur's Bane]]" and a "[[Hobbits\|Halfling]]". In order to find the meaning of the dream, Boromir went to "Imladris" - Rivendell.
	* [[Glóin son of Gróin\|Glóin]] and his son [[Gimli]] were sent by [[Dáin Ironfoot\|Dáin II Ironfoot]] to warn Bilbo. Earlier, a messenger from [[Mordor]] had appeared at the gate of [[Lonely Mountain\|Erebor]], and asked for information of the One Ring. As king [[Brand]] of [[Dale]] was also encountered, Dáin decided to send messengers to Rivendell. They also came to seek news of what happened to [[Balin's Colony]], which entered [[Moria]] thirty years before.		* [[Glóin son of Gróin\|Glóin]] and his son [[Gimli]] were sent by [[Dáin Ironfoot\|Dáin II Ironfoot]] to warn Bilbo. Earlier, a messenger from [[Mordor]] had appeared at the gate of [[Lonely Mountain\|Erebor]], and asked for information of the One Ring. As king [[Brand]] of [[Dale]] was also encountered, Dáin decided to send messengers to Rivendell. They also came to seek news of what happened to [[Balin's Colony]], which entered [[Moria]] thirty years before.
	* [[Legolas]], was sent by his father [[Thranduil]] with ill news. Aragorn had placed [[Gollum]] in the custody of the Elves of [[Mirkwood]], but after a surprise attack of [[Orcs]], Gollum had managed to escape.		* [[Legolas]], was sent by his father [[Thranduil]] with ill news. Aragorn had placed [[Gollum]] in the custody of the Elves of [[Mirkwood]], but after a surprise attack of [[Orcs]], Gollum had managed to escape.

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	* [[Aragorn]], a [[Rangers of the North\|Ranger]], [[Chieftains of the Dúnedain]] and [[Heir of Isildur]], who had been Frodo's travel companion, guide and aid since [[Bree]].		* [[Aragorn]], a [[Rangers of the North\|Ranger]], [[Chieftains of the Dúnedain]] and [[Heir of Isildur]], who had been Frodo's travel companion, guide and aid since [[Bree]].
	* [[Boromir]], son of the [[Denethor II\|Steward of Gondor]]. His brother [[Faramir]] had a [[Seek for the Sword that was broken\|prophetic dream]] thrice, and he himself once. It spoke of "[[Narsil\|the Sword that was broken]], "[[Rivendell\|Imladris]]", "[[Isildur's Bane]]" and a "[[Hobbits\|Halfling]]". In order to find the meaning of the dream, Boromir went to "Imladris" - Rivendell.		* [[Boromir]], son of the [[Denethor II\|Steward of Gondor]]. His brother [[Faramir]] had a [[Seek for the Sword that was broken\|prophetic dream]] thrice, and he himself once. It spoke of "[[Narsil\|the Sword that was broken]], "[[Rivendell\|Imladris]]", "[[Isildur's Bane]]" and a "[[Hobbits\|Halfling]]". In order to find the meaning of the dream, Boromir went to "Imladris" - Rivendell.
−	* [[Glóin son of Gróin\|Glóin]] and his son [[Gimli]] were sent by [[Dáin Ironfoot\|Dáin II Ironfoot]] to warn Bilbo. Earlier, a messenger from [[Mordor]] had appeared at the gate of [[Erebor]], and asked for information of the One Ring. As king [[Brand]] of [[Dale]] was also encountered, Dáin decided to send messengers to Rivendell. They also came to seek news of what happened to [[Balin's Colony]], which entered [[Moria]] thirty years before.	+	* [[Glóin son of Gróin\|Glóin]] and his son [[Gimli]] were sent by [[Dáin Ironfoot\|Dáin II Ironfoot]] to warn Bilbo. Earlier, a messenger from [[Mordor]] had appeared at the gate of [[Lonely Mountain\|Erebor]], and asked for information of the One Ring. As king [[Brand]] of [[Dale]] was also encountered, Dáin decided to send messengers to Rivendell. They also came to seek news of what happened to [[Balin's Colony]], which entered [[Moria]] thirty years before.
	* [[Legolas]], was sent by his father [[Thranduil]] with ill news. Aragorn had placed [[Gollum]] in the custody of the Elves of [[Mirkwood]], but after a surprise attack of [[Orcs]], Gollum had managed to escape.		* [[Legolas]], was sent by his father [[Thranduil]] with ill news. Aragorn had placed [[Gollum]] in the custody of the Elves of [[Mirkwood]], but after a surprise attack of [[Orcs]], Gollum had managed to escape.
	* [[Galdor of the Havens]], a messenger of [[Círdan]] who just happened to be present at the time. His role in the Council was no larger than asking a couple of questions.		* [[Galdor of the Havens]], a messenger of [[Círdan]] who just happened to be present at the time. His role in the Council was no larger than asking a couple of questions.