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Nothing is known about the realm or its inhabitants, were they Elves or Men. Dorwinion may have been the only [[Avari]] realm close to the [[Westlands]] of [[Middle-earth]]. It was already well established while the [[Atanatári]] were still young.
Nothing is known about the realm or its inhabitants, were they Elves or Men. Dorwinion may have been the only [[Avari]] realm close to the [[Westlands]] of [[Middle-earth]]. It was already well established while the [[Atanatári]] were still young.


Dorwinion is mentioned as the place where the special wine of the [[Thranduil|Elvenking]] comes from, and the crates are returned by way of the [[Forest River]] to [[Lake-town]] on [[Long Lake]].<ref>{{H|9}}</ref>
Dorwinion is mentioned as the place where the special wine of the [[Thranduil|Elven-king]] comes from, and the crates are returned by way of the [[Forest River]] to [[Lake-town]] on [[Long Lake]].<ref>{{H|9}}</ref>


==Etymology==
==Etymology==
The name is [[Sindarin]] meaning "Young-land country" (or "Land of Gwinion") from ''[[dor]]'' and ''[[gwain]]'' plus the geographical ending ''[[-iond]]''.<ref>{{HM|HH}}</ref><ref name=PE17>{{PE|17}}, p. 54</ref>
The name is [[Sindarin]] meaning "Young-land country" (or "Land of Gwinion") from ''[[dor]]'' and ''[[gwain]]'' plus the geographical ending ''[[-iond]]''.<ref>{{HM|HH}}</ref><ref name=PE17>{{PE|17}}, p. 54</ref>


It has been suggested by [[Tolkienist]]s that the name may not have been Sindarin at all, but come from an [[Avari]] or [[Nandorin]] tongue. The element ''-Winion'' was understood as apparently meaning "wine", without any probable origin in any known etymology<ref>[http://www.jrrvf.com/hisweloke/site3/articles.php?lng=fr&pg=36 Dorwinion, pays de cépages]</ref>; thus pointing to an obscure (like Avarin) origin. However, [[J.R.R. Tolkien|Tolkien]] clearly stated that the name was Sindarin, being a "testimony to the spread of Sindarin".<ref name=PE17/>
It has been suggested by [[Tolkienist]]s that the name may not have been Sindarin at all, but come from an [[Avari]] or [[Nandorin]] tongue. The element ''-Winion'' was understood as apparently meaning "wine", without any probable origin in any known etymology;<ref>[http://www.jrrvf.com/hisweloke/site3/articles.php?lng=fr&pg=36 Dorwinion, pays de cépages]</ref> thus pointing to an obscure (like Avarin) origin. However, [[J.R.R. Tolkien|Tolkien]] clearly stated that the name was Sindarin, being a "testimony to the spread of Sindarin".<ref name=PE17/>


==Other versions==
==Other versions==
''Dor'''v'''inion'' or ''Dor-Winion'' is mentioned by in the ''[[The Lay of the Children of Húrin]]''; its wine was famous among the [[Dwarves of Nogrod]] and [[Menegroth]]. It is said there to lie in the "Burning south" (of [[Beleriand]])<ref>{{LB|1b}} lines 223, 425</ref>, which might suggest it was a different "Dorwinion", or may just have referred to the fact it came from the more southern lands of [[Rhovanion (region)|Rhovanion]] by way of the [[Dwarf-road of Beleriand]].  
''Dor'''v'''inion'' or ''Dor-Winion'' is mentioned by in the ''[[The Lay of the Children of Húrin]]''; its wine was famous among the [[Dwarves of Nogrod]] and [[Menegroth]]. It is said there to lie in the "Burning south" (of [[Beleriand]])<ref>{{LB|1b}} lines 223, 425</ref>, which might suggest it was a different "Dorwinion", or may just have referred to the fact it came from the more southern lands of [[Rhovanion (region)|Rhovanion]] by way of the [[Dwarf-road of Beleriand]].  


While writing the [[Quenta Silmarillion]], Tolkien once mentioned Dorwinion as a location of [[Tol Eressea]]<ref>{{LR|Quenta}}, p. 338</ref>. Tolkien reused the name and the wines in ''[[The Hobbit]]'', establishing thus that it is somewhere in or near the [[Wilderland]].
While writing the [[Quenta Silmarillion]], Tolkien once mentioned Dorwinion as a location of [[Tol Eressea]].<ref>{{LR|Quenta}}, p. 338</ref> Tolkien reused the name and the wines in ''[[The Hobbit]]'', establishing thus that it is somewhere in or near the [[Wilderland]].


The canonical location was decided at random by [[Pauline Baynes]] while drawing [[A Map of Middle-earth]]. Tolkien was surprised but agreed.<ref>{{LB|Hurin}}</ref>
The canonical location was decided at random by [[Pauline Baynes]] while drawing [[A Map of Middle-earth]]. Tolkien was surprised but agreed.<ref>{{LB|Hurin}}</ref>

Revision as of 11:35, 3 December 2011

Dorwinion
Region
General Information
LocationOn the northwest side of the Sea of Rhûn
TypeRegion
DescriptionA land of vineyards
Inhabitantspossibly Elves
GalleryImages of Dorwinion

Dorwinion or Dor-Winion was a land which lay on the northwestern shores of the Sea of Rhûn. In Dorwinion was made a heady wine, which was strong enough to let even Elves get drunk and fall asleep.

Nothing is known about the realm or its inhabitants, were they Elves or Men. Dorwinion may have been the only Avari realm close to the Westlands of Middle-earth. It was already well established while the Atanatári were still young.

Dorwinion is mentioned as the place where the special wine of the Elven-king comes from, and the crates are returned by way of the Forest River to Lake-town on Long Lake.[1]

Etymology

The name is Sindarin meaning "Young-land country" (or "Land of Gwinion") from dor and gwain plus the geographical ending -iond.[2][3]

It has been suggested by Tolkienists that the name may not have been Sindarin at all, but come from an Avari or Nandorin tongue. The element -Winion was understood as apparently meaning "wine", without any probable origin in any known etymology;[4] thus pointing to an obscure (like Avarin) origin. However, Tolkien clearly stated that the name was Sindarin, being a "testimony to the spread of Sindarin".[3]

Other versions

Dorvinion or Dor-Winion is mentioned by in the The Lay of the Children of Húrin; its wine was famous among the Dwarves of Nogrod and Menegroth. It is said there to lie in the "Burning south" (of Beleriand)[5], which might suggest it was a different "Dorwinion", or may just have referred to the fact it came from the more southern lands of Rhovanion by way of the Dwarf-road of Beleriand.

While writing the Quenta Silmarillion, Tolkien once mentioned Dorwinion as a location of Tol Eressea.[6] Tolkien reused the name and the wines in The Hobbit, establishing thus that it is somewhere in or near the Wilderland.

The canonical location was decided at random by Pauline Baynes while drawing A Map of Middle-earth. Tolkien was surprised but agreed.[7]

References