Finwë - Revision history

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	==Other names and titles==		==Other names and titles==

−	The title '''''Ñoldóran''''', "[[High King of the Noldor\|King of the Ñoldor]]", was the only other recorded name of Finwë.<ref>{{PM\|Shibboleth}}, p. 343</ref> It is apparently a compound of ''[[~~Noldor~~]]'' and ''[[aran]]'' ("king").{{fact}}	+	The title '''''Ñoldóran''''', "[[High King of the Noldor\|King of the Ñoldor]]", was the only other recorded name of Finwë.<ref>{{PM\|Shibboleth}}, p. 343</ref> It is apparently a compound of ''[[Noldo]]'' and ''[[aran]]'' ("king").{{fact}}

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	In the first drafts of the genealogy, Finwë had four sons: the youngest was named ''[[Finrun]]'', but he was dropped after that, thus [[Finrod]] (later [[Finarfin]]) was Finwë's youngest son from then on.		In the first drafts of the genealogy, Finwë had four sons: the youngest was named ''[[Finrun]]'', but he was dropped after that, thus [[Finrod]] (later [[Finarfin]]) was Finwë's youngest son from then on.

−	In a later version Finwë had three ~~[[Daughters of Finwë\|~~daughters]] added by [[Indis]], [[Findis]] (as their first child) [[Faniel]] (as their third), and [[Finvain]] (as their youngest). In yet later versions, Faniel was apparently dropped, while Findis and Finvain were kept. Finvain (renamed [[Írimë]]) was moved to after Fingolfin, thus Finarfin was once again the youngest child of Finwë.	+	In a later version Finwë had three daughters added by [[Indis]], [[Findis]] (as their first child) [[Faniel]] (as their third), and [[Finvain]] (as their youngest). In yet later versions, Faniel was apparently dropped, while Findis and Finvain were kept. Finvain (renamed [[Írimë]]) was moved to after Fingolfin, thus Finarfin was once again the youngest child of Finwë.

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−	\| children=[[Fëanor]], [[~~Irimë~~]], [[Fingolfin]], [[Finarfin]] and [[Findis]]	+	\| children=[[Fëanor]], [[Írimë]], [[Fingolfin]], [[Finarfin]] and [[Findis]]
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	This was a shocking event for all those present in Valinor, as never one of their own had died of free will. For some time, Finwë lived in sorrow and he often visited Míriel's body, but as his loneliness and lack of joy increased, he stopped seeing her altogether. His entire love now rested with his son, Fëanor, who grew up to be mighty and skilled in all things of hands and mind. He married [[Nerdanel]] and gave Finwë [[Sons of Fëanor\|seven grandchildren]].		This was a shocking event for all those present in Valinor, as never one of their own had died of free will. For some time, Finwë lived in sorrow and he often visited Míriel's body, but as his loneliness and lack of joy increased, he stopped seeing her altogether. His entire love now rested with his son, Fëanor, who grew up to be mighty and skilled in all things of hands and mind. He married [[Nerdanel]] and gave Finwë [[Sons of Fëanor\|seven grandchildren]].

−	But Finwë was not content in living alone and he sought to marry for the second time. His wife was [[Indis\|Indis the Fair]], a golden haired [[Vanya]], whom he loved and rejoiced in. She gave him two sons, [[Fingolfin]] and [[Finarfin]], and two daughters, [[Findis]] and [[~~Irimë~~]]. And though he was now blissful again, the shadow of Míriel never left the House, especially since Fëanor opposed his father's second marriage. The sons of Finwë never lived together and never shared close bonds. And after the later events surrounding the [[Silmarils]] many blamed Finwë and his desire to have a second wife for the dreadful courses of all those in the House. Most of these accusations had no ground, as Finwë had always loved his eldest son above all others, and the events surrounding his death would prove it.	+	But Finwë was not content in living alone and he sought to marry for the second time. His wife was [[Indis\|Indis the Fair]], a golden haired [[Vanya]], whom he loved and rejoiced in. She gave him two sons, [[Fingolfin]] and [[Finarfin]], and two daughters, [[Findis]] and [[Írimë]]. And though he was now blissful again, the shadow of Míriel never left the House, especially since Fëanor opposed his father's second marriage. The sons of Finwë never lived together and never shared close bonds. And after the later events surrounding the [[Silmarils]] many blamed Finwë and his desire to have a second wife for the dreadful courses of all those in the House. Most of these accusations had no ground, as Finwë had always loved his eldest son above all others, and the events surrounding his death would prove it.

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	== Genealogy ==		== Genealogy ==
−	Finwë had two wives. His first was [[Míriel]], who passed away soon after bearing their only child, [[Fëanor]]. His second wife was [[Indis]], of the [[Vanyar]], who bore him two sons: [[Fingolfin]] and [[Finarfin]], and two daughters: [[Findis]] and [[~~Irimë~~]].	+	Finwë had two wives. His first was [[Míriel]], who passed away soon after bearing their only child, [[Fëanor]]. His second wife was [[Indis]], of the [[Vanyar]], who bore him two sons: [[Fingolfin]] and [[Finarfin]], and two daughters: [[Findis]] and [[Írimë]].

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	In the first drafts of the genealogy, Finwë had four sons: the youngest was named ''[[Finrun]]'', but he was dropped after that, thus [[Finrod]] (later [[Finarfin]]) was Finwë's youngest son from then on.		In the first drafts of the genealogy, Finwë had four sons: the youngest was named ''[[Finrun]]'', but he was dropped after that, thus [[Finrod]] (later [[Finarfin]]) was Finwë's youngest son from then on.

−	In a later version Finwë had three [[Daughters of Finwë\|daughters]] added by [[Indis]], [[Findis]] (as their first child) [[Faniel]] (as their third), and [[Finvain]] (as their youngest). In yet later versions, Faniel was apparently dropped, while Findis and Finvain were kept. Finvain (renamed [[~~Irimë~~]]) was moved to after Fingolfin, thus Finarfin was once again the youngest child of Finwë.	+	In a later version Finwë had three [[Daughters of Finwë\|daughters]] added by [[Indis]], [[Findis]] (as their first child) [[Faniel]] (as their third), and [[Finvain]] (as their youngest). In yet later versions, Faniel was apparently dropped, while Findis and Finvain were kept. Finvain (renamed [[Írimë]]) was moved to after Fingolfin, thus Finarfin was once again the youngest child of Finwë.

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	==Etymology==		==Etymology==

−	The name ''Finwë'' is said to be one of the oldest recorded names of the Eldar. It is not certain ~~that~~ ''Finwë'' had any clear meaning, but it can be analyzed as ''fin-'' (derived from [[Common Eldarin]] PHIN "hair") + ''[[-wë]]'' (suffix generally used for male names).<ref>{{PM\|Shibboleth}}, p. 340</ref>	+	The name ''Finwë'' is said to be one of the oldest recorded names of the Eldar. It is not certain if ''Finwë'' had any clear meaning, but it can be analyzed as ''fin-'' (derived from [[Common Eldarin]] PHIN "hair") + ''[[-wë]]'' (suffix generally used for male names).<ref>{{PM\|Shibboleth}}, p. 340</ref>

	==Other names and titles==		==Other names and titles==

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	\| name=Finwë		\| name=Finwë
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	The first [[Elves]] awoke in [[Middle-earth]], near the [[Cuiviénen\|Lake Cuiviénen]], sometime during the early [[Years of the Trees]]. Though it is not clearly stated in ''[[The Silmarillion]]'', Finwë was probably among the first [[Elves\|Children of Ilúvatar]]. [[Oromë]], The Huntsman of the [[Valar]], while traveling in the [[Orocarni]] mountains, discovered the Elves and bonded friendship with their kin.		The first [[Elves]] awoke in [[Middle-earth]], near the [[Cuiviénen\|Lake Cuiviénen]], sometime during the early [[Years of the Trees]]. Though it is not clearly stated in ''[[The Silmarillion]]'', Finwë was probably among the first [[Elves\|Children of Ilúvatar]]. [[Oromë]], The Huntsman of the [[Valar]], while traveling in the [[Orocarni]] mountains, discovered the Elves and bonded friendship with their kin.

−	Later, as the Valar decided to call the first Children of [[Ilúvatar]] in Valinor, because they regarded this call with suspicion, he selected three elves to follow him into Aman and report back what they have seen, in the hopes that they could decimate the fears which were seeded into the hearts of the elves by [[Melkor]]'s own doing. The three elves were Finwë, [[Ingwë]] and [[Elwë Singollo\|Elwë]], who would later become kings of the three fractions into which the elven race was split.<ref name=S3>{{S\|3}}</ref>	+	Later, as the Valar decided to call the first Children of [[Ilúvatar]] in Valinor, because they regarded this call with suspicion, he selected three elves to follow him into Aman and report back what they have seen, in the hopes that they could decimate the fears which were seeded into the hearts of the elves by [[Morgoth\|Melkor]]'s own doing. The three elves were Finwë, [[Ingwë]] and [[Elwë Singollo\|Elwë]], who would later become kings of the three fractions into which the elven race was split.<ref name=S3>{{S\|3}}</ref>

	Enamoured by the wonders of Valinor, Finwë and his other two companions returned towards the Middle-earth and attempted to convince their race to follow them back into Aman. Those who agreed to follow Oromë received the name of [[Eldar]]. Among them were Finwë's people, the [[Noldor]]. They later became students of [[Aulë]] the Smith.<ref name=S3/> Finwë's eldest son, [[Fëanor]], would become the greatest craftsman among the Elves of Valinor.<ref name=S5/>		Enamoured by the wonders of Valinor, Finwë and his other two companions returned towards the Middle-earth and attempted to convince their race to follow them back into Aman. Those who agreed to follow Oromë received the name of [[Eldar]]. Among them were Finwë's people, the [[Noldor]]. They later became students of [[Aulë]] the Smith.<ref name=S3/> Finwë's eldest son, [[Fëanor]], would become the greatest craftsman among the Elves of Valinor.<ref name=S5/>

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	The first [[Elves]] awoke in [[Middle-earth]], near the [[Cuiviénen\|Lake Cuiviénen]], sometime during the early [[Years of the Trees]]. Though it is not clearly stated in ''[[The Silmarillion]]'', Finwë was probably among the first [[Elves\|Children of Ilúvatar]]. [[Oromë]], The Huntsman of the [[Valar]], while traveling in the [[Orocarni]] mountains, discovered the Elves and bonded friendship with their kin.		The first [[Elves]] awoke in [[Middle-earth]], near the [[Cuiviénen\|Lake Cuiviénen]], sometime during the early [[Years of the Trees]]. Though it is not clearly stated in ''[[The Silmarillion]]'', Finwë was probably among the first [[Elves\|Children of Ilúvatar]]. [[Oromë]], The Huntsman of the [[Valar]], while traveling in the [[Orocarni]] mountains, discovered the Elves and bonded friendship with their kin.

−	Later, as the Valar decided to call the first Children of [[Ilúvatar]] in Valinor, because they regarded this call with suspicion, he selected three elves to follow him into Aman and report back what they have seen, in the hopes that they could decimate the fears which were seeded into the hearts of the elves by [[~~Morgoth~~]]'s own doing. The three elves were Finwë, [[Ingwë]] and [[Elwë Singollo\|Elwë]], who would later become kings of the three fractions into which the elven race was split.<ref name=S3>{{S\|3}}</ref>	+	Later, as the Valar decided to call the first Children of [[Ilúvatar]] in Valinor, because they regarded this call with suspicion, he selected three elves to follow him into Aman and report back what they have seen, in the hopes that they could decimate the fears which were seeded into the hearts of the elves by [[Melkor]]'s own doing. The three elves were Finwë, [[Ingwë]] and [[Elwë Singollo\|Elwë]], who would later become kings of the three fractions into which the elven race was split.<ref name=S3>{{S\|3}}</ref>

	Enamoured by the wonders of Valinor, Finwë and his other two companions returned towards the Middle-earth and attempted to convince their race to follow them back into Aman. Those who agreed to follow Oromë received the name of [[Eldar]]. Among them were Finwë's people, the [[Noldor]]. They later became students of [[Aulë]] the Smith.<ref name=S3/> Finwë's eldest son, [[Fëanor]], would become the greatest craftsman among the Elves of Valinor.<ref name=S5/>		Enamoured by the wonders of Valinor, Finwë and his other two companions returned towards the Middle-earth and attempted to convince their race to follow them back into Aman. Those who agreed to follow Oromë received the name of [[Eldar]]. Among them were Finwë's people, the [[Noldor]]. They later became students of [[Aulë]] the Smith.<ref name=S3/> Finwë's eldest son, [[Fëanor]], would become the greatest craftsman among the Elves of Valinor.<ref name=S5/>

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	The first [[Elves]] awoke in [[Middle-earth]], near the [[Cuiviénen\|Lake Cuiviénen]], sometime during the early [[Years of the Trees]]. Though it is not clearly stated in ''[[The Silmarillion]]'', Finwë was probably among the first [[Elves\|Children of Ilúvatar]]. [[Oromë]], The Huntsman of the [[Valar]], while traveling in the [[Orocarni]] mountains, discovered the Elves and bonded friendship with their kin.		The first [[Elves]] awoke in [[Middle-earth]], near the [[Cuiviénen\|Lake Cuiviénen]], sometime during the early [[Years of the Trees]]. Though it is not clearly stated in ''[[The Silmarillion]]'', Finwë was probably among the first [[Elves\|Children of Ilúvatar]]. [[Oromë]], The Huntsman of the [[Valar]], while traveling in the [[Orocarni]] mountains, discovered the Elves and bonded friendship with their kin.

−	Later, as the Valar decided to call the first Children of [[Ilúvatar]] in Valinor, because they regarded this call with suspicion, he selected three elves to follow him into Aman and report back what they have seen, in the hopes that they could decimate the fears which were seeded into the hearts of the elves by [[~~Melkor~~]]'s own doing. The three elves were Finwë, [[Ingwë]] and [[Elwë Singollo\|Elwë]], who would later become kings of the three fractions into which the elven race was split.<ref name=S3>{{S\|3}}</ref>	+	Later, as the Valar decided to call the first Children of [[Ilúvatar]] in Valinor, because they regarded this call with suspicion, he selected three elves to follow him into Aman and report back what they have seen, in the hopes that they could decimate the fears which were seeded into the hearts of the elves by [[Morgoth]]'s own doing. The three elves were Finwë, [[Ingwë]] and [[Elwë Singollo\|Elwë]], who would later become kings of the three fractions into which the elven race was split.<ref name=S3>{{S\|3}}</ref>

	Enamoured by the wonders of Valinor, Finwë and his other two companions returned towards the Middle-earth and attempted to convince their race to follow them back into Aman. Those who agreed to follow Oromë received the name of [[Eldar]]. Among them were Finwë's people, the [[Noldor]]. They later became students of [[Aulë]] the Smith.<ref name=S3/> Finwë's eldest son, [[Fëanor]], would become the greatest craftsman among the Elves of Valinor.<ref name=S5/>		Enamoured by the wonders of Valinor, Finwë and his other two companions returned towards the Middle-earth and attempted to convince their race to follow them back into Aman. Those who agreed to follow Oromë received the name of [[Eldar]]. Among them were Finwë's people, the [[Noldor]]. They later became students of [[Aulë]] the Smith.<ref name=S3/> Finwë's eldest son, [[Fëanor]], would become the greatest craftsman among the Elves of Valinor.<ref name=S5/>