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::Whatever it is, it's not relevant enough to put on the Celeborn page, that's why I removed it.  -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 17:50, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
::Whatever it is, it's not relevant enough to put on the Celeborn page, that's why I removed it.  -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 17:50, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


:::Anyway, [[Círdan]] is probably older.  He was already a leader during the migration to Valinor, whereas Celeborn (depending upon the account) seems to be a younger relative of [[Olwë]] and/or [[Elu Thingol]]. --[[User:Narfil Palùrfalas|Narfil]] 18:04, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Anyway, [[Círdan]] is probably older.  He was already a leader during the migration to Valinor, whereas Celeborn (depending upon the account) seems to be a younger relative of [[Olwë]] and/or [[Thingol|Elu Thingol]]. --[[User:Narfil Palùrfalas|Narfil]] 18:04, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 
::::No, I change my mind; it probably was Cirdan. Good call. you pronouce that kirdan, right? I read that Tolkiens elves' most changed c to k {{unsigned|Breragor}}
 
:::::Keer-dan. All languages of Middle-earth (excluding Old English and such) use the /c/ as a [k]. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 20:25, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

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Aside from the Ents and Bombadil, who is the oldest living person in Middle Earth? It would most likely be an elf, and at first I believed it was Celeborn, since he was with Thingol I assumed he predated Galadriel, and might even be one of the original elves, but it seems im wrong.Unsigned comment by Earnur (talk • contribs).

I'd agree with Celeborn. He is a member of the house of Elwe and Olwe, oldest among Thingol's kin. He is the grandson of Elu's younger brother, so that means he was born sometime between the first and second age. His reign was also preceeded by Amroth, who journey with Nimrod, both whom were born in the mid-first age. These only prove Celeborn's oldness. A good day to me, is waking up in Middle Earth! Unsigned comment by Breragor (talk • contribs).
Whatever it is, it's not relevant enough to put on the Celeborn page, that's why I removed it. -- Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 17:50, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Anyway, Círdan is probably older. He was already a leader during the migration to Valinor, whereas Celeborn (depending upon the account) seems to be a younger relative of Olwë and/or Elu Thingol. --Narfil 18:04, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
No, I change my mind; it probably was Cirdan. Good call. you pronouce that kirdan, right? I read that Tolkiens elves' most changed c to k Unsigned comment by Breragor (talk • contribs).
Keer-dan. All languages of Middle-earth (excluding Old English and such) use the /c/ as a [k]. -- Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 20:25, 14 November 2008 (UTC)