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Eru (Iluvatar) has only one eye. Check out The Sil. "More piercing than the Eye of Iluvatar." If Eru has two Tolkien being a philologist would have made it "eyes" don't you think?
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Eru (Iluvatar) has only one eye. Check out The Sil. "More piercing than the Eye of Iluvatar." If Eru has two Tolkien being a philologist would have made it "eyes" don't you think? {{unsigned|Tolkienscholar91}}
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:Overinterpretation. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 17:38, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
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::Indeed. You're reading it too literally: if Tolkien were referring to an actual eye he wouldn't have capitalised it; also, eyes don't "pierce". This is eye in the sense of being able to see/notice/perceive, rather than the actual organ. Compare with "Eye of Sauron", which also isn't an actual eye, but a metaphor for the endless vigilance of his servants commanded through his ceaseless will. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 18:24, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
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:::From Psalm 33:18: ''Behold, the eye of the LORD is upon them that fear him, upon them that hope in his mercy;''. This Psalm is very popular and this use of the singular eye has long ago worked its way into common Christian symbolism. See https://www.google.com/search?q=bible+%22eye+of+god%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=8Az&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&sclient=psy-ab&q=%22eye+of+the+lord%22+-apple&oq=%22eye+of+the+lord%22+-apple&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=serp.3...153874l159433l3l160838l12l12l2l0l0l0l120l981l7j3l10l0.frgbld.&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=d70c8e76b178f69e&biw=1372&bih=573.{{Unsigned|Jallan}}
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::::hmmm... An eye may well be a common Christian symbol (though, I've not come across it before), but this is not evidence that Eru, a being that exists outside the physical universe, has one eye.--{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 18:06, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
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:::::The Eye of God or All-seeing Eye is a Christian and generally theist symbol, as seen on the US seal on a dollar. It is called [[Wikipedia:Eye of Providence|Eye of Providence]]. [[User:Sage|Sage]] 17:15, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

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Eru (Iluvatar) has only one eye. Check out The Sil. "More piercing than the Eye of Iluvatar." If Eru has two Tolkien being a philologist would have made it "eyes" don't you think? Unsigned comment by Tolkienscholar91 (talk • contribs).

Overinterpretation. --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 17:38, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
Indeed. You're reading it too literally: if Tolkien were referring to an actual eye he wouldn't have capitalised it; also, eyes don't "pierce". This is eye in the sense of being able to see/notice/perceive, rather than the actual organ. Compare with "Eye of Sauron", which also isn't an actual eye, but a metaphor for the endless vigilance of his servants commanded through his ceaseless will. --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 18:24, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
From Psalm 33:18: Behold, the eye of the LORD is upon them that fear him, upon them that hope in his mercy;. This Psalm is very popular and this use of the singular eye has long ago worked its way into common Christian symbolism. See https://www.google.com/search?q=bible+%22eye+of+god%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=8Az&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&sclient=psy-ab&q=%22eye+of+the+lord%22+-apple&oq=%22eye+of+the+lord%22+-apple&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=serp.3...153874l159433l3l160838l12l12l2l0l0l0l120l981l7j3l10l0.frgbld.&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=d70c8e76b178f69e&biw=1372&bih=573.Unsigned comment by Jallan (talk • contribs).
hmmm... An eye may well be a common Christian symbol (though, I've not come across it before), but this is not evidence that Eru, a being that exists outside the physical universe, has one eye.-- KingAragorn  talk  contribs  edits  email  18:06, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
The Eye of God or All-seeing Eye is a Christian and generally theist symbol, as seen on the US seal on a dollar. It is called Eye of Providence. Sage 17:15, 30 March 2012 (UTC)