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Does any one know or have an idea if the lake men of esgaroth had traded or have had any contact with the men of gondor--[[User:Woodmen|Woodmen]] 21:15, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 
:It's nowhere mentioned. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 21:30, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 
::Wouldn't it most likely have been dwarves? {{unsigned|Breragor}}
 
:::Seeing how surprised the Gondorians are to see an Elf and a Dwarf enter Minas Tirith, and Ingold's idea that anyone - Pippin, Easterlings - is a Dwarf based solely on stereotypical features (size, beard), I'd say no. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 08:16, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 
If everyone is thought a dwarf, than I'd say "yes".
 
:::I would guess that they're most likely related to the people of Rohan, if anything.--[[User:Aragorn47|Aragorn47]] 20:24, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
 
::The Men of Esgaroth are definitely related to the Rohirrim, the Esgarothians (my word) were related to the Northmen, from whom are descended the Rohirrim (Unfinished Tales, "Cirion and Eorl").  The Esgarothians traded with dwarves. [[User:Eldorion]]
 
::I sometimes think Middle-earth as seen in LotR is almost post-apocalyptic. The people we encounter are without exception tiny remnants of larger kingdoms (Arnor, Gondor, Rhovanion, etc.) living in isolated refuges which seemingly only interact through adventurers like Bilbo. The question is, why exactly did Middle Earth go from being thickly inhabited in the Second and Third Ages to the depopulated wasteland we see in LotR? --[[User:Aule the Smith|Aule the Smith]] 22:05, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 
There were many reasons why much of Middle-earth is empty.  Wars depopulated much of Eriador and (I believe) the area around Dale.  The Plague also killed many, many people all over Northwest Middle-earth.  There are still plenty of people around though, there are just also empty areas.[[User:Eldorion|Eldorion]]

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Does any one know or have an idea if the lake men of esgaroth had traded or have had any contact with the men of gondor--Woodmen 21:15, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

It's nowhere mentioned. -- Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 21:30, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Wouldn't it most likely have been dwarves? Unsigned comment by Breragor (talk • contribs).
Seeing how surprised the Gondorians are to see an Elf and a Dwarf enter Minas Tirith, and Ingold's idea that anyone - Pippin, Easterlings - is a Dwarf based solely on stereotypical features (size, beard), I'd say no. -- Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 08:16, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

If everyone is thought a dwarf, than I'd say "yes".

I would guess that they're most likely related to the people of Rohan, if anything.--Aragorn47 20:24, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
The Men of Esgaroth are definitely related to the Rohirrim, the Esgarothians (my word) were related to the Northmen, from whom are descended the Rohirrim (Unfinished Tales, "Cirion and Eorl"). The Esgarothians traded with dwarves. User:Eldorion
I sometimes think Middle-earth as seen in LotR is almost post-apocalyptic. The people we encounter are without exception tiny remnants of larger kingdoms (Arnor, Gondor, Rhovanion, etc.) living in isolated refuges which seemingly only interact through adventurers like Bilbo. The question is, why exactly did Middle Earth go from being thickly inhabited in the Second and Third Ages to the depopulated wasteland we see in LotR? --Aule the Smith 22:05, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

There were many reasons why much of Middle-earth is empty. Wars depopulated much of Eriador and (I believe) the area around Dale. The Plague also killed many, many people all over Northwest Middle-earth. There are still plenty of people around though, there are just also empty areas.Eldorion