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Moving on to the crux of the matter I can't find polish translation of the name 'North South-Road'. Of course, you don't have any polish translation of Tolkien's book, but you can point me a fragment in The Lord of the Rings or other book, where is located that name. Then I'm going to find the same fragment in my Polish edition and compare translations.
Moving on to the crux of the matter I can't find polish translation of the name 'North South-Road'. Of course, you don't have any polish translation of Tolkien's book, but you can point me a fragment in The Lord of the Rings or other book, where is located that name. Then I'm going to find the same fragment in my Polish edition and compare translations.
I'm so sorry again for my English :( But I hope you can read that text and help me.  
I'm so sorry again for my English :( But I hope you can read that text and help me.  
Thank you in advance. --[[Special:Contributions/46.238.249.18|46.238.249.18]] 15:10, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
Thank you in advance. --[[User:MarasPL|MarasPL]] 19:02, 5 July 2015 (UTC)


:Hello!  Ah, the mystery of the 'North-South Road'...  If you look in the index of '''''The Lord of the Rings''''' in the section subtitled "Places" you will find no entry for the North-South Road.  In '''''The Fellowship of the Ring''''' in Chapter 9 of Book I, "At the Sign of the Prancing Pony", there is a reference to the "Greenway", which is the upper part of the road, and in Chapter 3 of Book II, "The Ring Goes South", there is a reference to the "old North Road".  In the maps of Middle-earth in the original '''''The Fellowship of the Ring''''' and '''''The Two Towers''''' you will see a road that extends south from Fornost to Bree to Tharbad and then it disappears in Enedwaith.  The part north of Tharbad is labeled "The Greenway" and the part south of Tharbad is called the "Old South Road".  No road is shown between Dunland and Edoras.  In the map of Gondor and Rohan in '''''The Return of the King''''' the road between Edoras and Minas Tirith is called the "Great West Road", but there is nothing going west from Edoras.  Thus there is no mention of the "North-South Road" in '''''The Lord of the Rings'''''.
:Hello!  Ah, the mystery of the 'North-South Road'...  If you look in the index of '''''The Lord of the Rings''''' in the section subtitled "Places" you will find no entry for the North-South Road.  In '''''The Fellowship of the Ring''''' in Chapter 9 of Book I, "At the Sign of the Prancing Pony", there is a reference to the "Greenway", which is the upper part of the road, and in Chapter 3 of Book II, "The Ring Goes South", there is a reference to the "old North Road".  In the maps of Middle-earth in the original '''''The Fellowship of the Ring''''' and '''''The Two Towers''''' you will see a road that extends south from Fornost to Bree to Tharbad and then it disappears in Enedwaith.  The part north of Tharbad is labeled "The Greenway" and the part south of Tharbad is called the "Old South Road".  No road is shown between Dunland and Edoras.  In the map of Gondor and Rohan in '''''The Return of the King''''' the road between Edoras and Minas Tirith is called the "Great West Road", but there is nothing going west from Edoras.  Thus there is no mention of the "North-South Road" in '''''The Lord of the Rings'''''.
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:In the '''''Unfinished Tales''''' Christopher Tolkien also added a new map called "The West of Middle-earth at the End of the Third Age".  In this new map (which adds details not shown on the earlier maps) the name "Old South Road" disappears, the road between Tharbad and Edoras has been filled in, and it is named "North-South Road".  I hope this helps. --[[Gamling]] 00:18 8 June 2015 (UTC)
:In the '''''Unfinished Tales''''' Christopher Tolkien also added a new map called "The West of Middle-earth at the End of the Third Age".  In this new map (which adds details not shown on the earlier maps) the name "Old South Road" disappears, the road between Tharbad and Edoras has been filled in, and it is named "North-South Road".  I hope this helps. --[[Gamling]] 00:18 8 June 2015 (UTC)


::Thank you so much :) --[[Special:Contributions/46.238.249.18|46.238.249.18]] 15:10, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
::Thank you so much :)--[[User:MarasPL|MarasPL]] 19:02, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

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Hi guys! I'm a long-standing fan of Tolkien and, what's interesting, I'm a Pole, so please bear with me in connection with my English :) Moving on to the crux of the matter I can't find polish translation of the name 'North South-Road'. Of course, you don't have any polish translation of Tolkien's book, but you can point me a fragment in The Lord of the Rings or other book, where is located that name. Then I'm going to find the same fragment in my Polish edition and compare translations. I'm so sorry again for my English :( But I hope you can read that text and help me. Thank you in advance. --MarasPL 19:02, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello! Ah, the mystery of the 'North-South Road'... If you look in the index of The Lord of the Rings in the section subtitled "Places" you will find no entry for the North-South Road. In The Fellowship of the Ring in Chapter 9 of Book I, "At the Sign of the Prancing Pony", there is a reference to the "Greenway", which is the upper part of the road, and in Chapter 3 of Book II, "The Ring Goes South", there is a reference to the "old North Road". In the maps of Middle-earth in the original The Fellowship of the Ring and The Two Towers you will see a road that extends south from Fornost to Bree to Tharbad and then it disappears in Enedwaith. The part north of Tharbad is labeled "The Greenway" and the part south of Tharbad is called the "Old South Road". No road is shown between Dunland and Edoras. In the map of Gondor and Rohan in The Return of the King the road between Edoras and Minas Tirith is called the "Great West Road", but there is nothing going west from Edoras. Thus there is no mention of the "North-South Road" in The Lord of the Rings.
However, in The Unfinished Tales of Númenor and Middle-earth, Christopher Tolkien decided to clarify the situation concerning the roads. In the Index under the entry Roads he named "The great Númenórean road linking the Two Kingdoms, by Tharbad and the Fords of Isen; called the North-South Road". This name was used twice in the text: The first is in the "History of Galadriel and Celeborn" in Appendix D, The Port of Lond Daer. Christopher wrote about the Bridge of Tharbad and named the road the North-South Road. The second reference is in "Cirion and Eorl" in footnote 32.
In the Unfinished Tales Christopher Tolkien also added a new map called "The West of Middle-earth at the End of the Third Age". In this new map (which adds details not shown on the earlier maps) the name "Old South Road" disappears, the road between Tharbad and Edoras has been filled in, and it is named "North-South Road". I hope this helps. --Gamling 00:18 8 June 2015 (UTC)
Thank you so much :)--MarasPL 19:02, 5 July 2015 (UTC)