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Fredeghar: /* Canonicity */

2012-10-23T07:35:08Z

Canonicity

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	In the stage of the later ''[[The Silmarillion\|Silmarillion]]'', [[J.R.R. Tolkien\|Tolkien]] rearranged several details: the language described as Old Noldorin is taken by the Noldorin dialect of [[Quenya]], and the language called Noldorin was renamed "[[Sindarin]]" and took the place of the vernacular Ilkorin in [[Beleriand]].		In the stage of the later ''[[The Silmarillion\|Silmarillion]]'', [[J.R.R. Tolkien\|Tolkien]] rearranged several details: the language described as Old Noldorin is taken by the Noldorin dialect of [[Quenya]], and the language called Noldorin was renamed "[[Sindarin]]" and took the place of the vernacular Ilkorin in [[Beleriand]].

−	Old Noldorin belongs to a chronological and phonological stage which Sindarin would normally also ~~had~~ passed through, specifically a stage when final vowels still existed, and consonants did not undergo [[lenition]] yet; however this stage is not named or described by Tolkien other than some example etymological reconstructions.<ref>{{WJ\|Quendi}}</ref> Fans name this phase "[[Old Sindarin]]".	+	Old Noldorin belongs to a chronological and phonological stage which Sindarin would normally also have passed through, specifically a stage when final vowels still existed, and consonants did not undergo [[lenition]] yet; however this stage is not named or described by Tolkien other than some example etymological reconstructions.<ref>{{WJ\|Quendi}}</ref> Fans name this phase "[[Old Sindarin]]".
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Mith: Re-linked

2011-01-10T18:27:34Z

Re-linked

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	In the [[Great Lands]], the language evolved as [[Noldorin]] through contact with [[Ilkorin]].		In the [[Great Lands]], the language evolved as [[Noldorin]] through contact with [[Ilkorin]].
	==Canonicity==		==Canonicity==
−	In the stage of the later ''[[Silmarillion]]'', [[Tolkien]] rearranged several details: the language described as Old Noldorin is taken by the Noldorin dialect of [[Quenya]], and the language called Noldorin was renamed "[[Sindarin]]" and took the place of the vernacular Ilkorin in [[Beleriand]].	+	In the stage of the later ''[[The Silmarillion\|Silmarillion]]'', [[J.R.R. Tolkien\|Tolkien]] rearranged several details: the language described as Old Noldorin is taken by the Noldorin dialect of [[Quenya]], and the language called Noldorin was renamed "[[Sindarin]]" and took the place of the vernacular Ilkorin in [[Beleriand]].

	Old Noldorin belongs to a chronological and phonological stage which Sindarin would normally also had passed through, specifically a stage when final vowels still existed, and consonants did not undergo [[lenition]] yet; however this stage is not named or described by Tolkien other than some example etymological reconstructions.<ref>{{WJ\|Quendi}}</ref> Fans name this phase "[[Old Sindarin]]".		Old Noldorin belongs to a chronological and phonological stage which Sindarin would normally also had passed through, specifically a stage when final vowels still existed, and consonants did not undergo [[lenition]] yet; however this stage is not named or described by Tolkien other than some example etymological reconstructions.<ref>{{WJ\|Quendi}}</ref> Fans name this phase "[[Old Sindarin]]".

Mith: Reverted edits by Mithbot (Talk) to last revision by Morgan

2011-01-10T18:25:31Z

Reverted edits by Mithbot (Talk) to last revision by Morgan

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	In the [[Great Lands]], the language evolved as [[Noldorin]] through contact with [[Ilkorin]].		In the [[Great Lands]], the language evolved as [[Noldorin]] through contact with [[Ilkorin]].
	==Canonicity==		==Canonicity==
−	In the stage of the later ''[[~~The Silmarillion\|~~Silmarillion]]'''', [[~~J.R.R. Tolkien\|~~Tolkien]] rearranged several details: the language described as Old Noldorin is taken by the Noldorin dialect of [[Quenya]], and the language called Noldorin was renamed "[[Sindarin]]" and took the place of the vernacular Ilkorin in [[Beleriand]].	+	In the stage of the later ''[[Silmarillion]]'', [[Tolkien]] rearranged several details: the language described as Old Noldorin is taken by the Noldorin dialect of [[Quenya]], and the language called Noldorin was renamed "[[Sindarin]]" and took the place of the vernacular Ilkorin in [[Beleriand]].

	Old Noldorin belongs to a chronological and phonological stage which Sindarin would normally also had passed through, specifically a stage when final vowels still existed, and consonants did not undergo [[lenition]] yet; however this stage is not named or described by Tolkien other than some example etymological reconstructions.<ref>{{WJ\|Quendi}}</ref> Fans name this phase "[[Old Sindarin]]".		Old Noldorin belongs to a chronological and phonological stage which Sindarin would normally also had passed through, specifically a stage when final vowels still existed, and consonants did not undergo [[lenition]] yet; however this stage is not named or described by Tolkien other than some example etymological reconstructions.<ref>{{WJ\|Quendi}}</ref> Fans name this phase "[[Old Sindarin]]".

Mithbot: Bot Message: changing link to The Silmarillion

2011-01-10T18:11:38Z

Bot Message: changing link to The Silmarillion

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	In the [[Great Lands]], the language evolved as [[Noldorin]] through contact with [[Ilkorin]].		In the [[Great Lands]], the language evolved as [[Noldorin]] through contact with [[Ilkorin]].
	==Canonicity==		==Canonicity==
−	In the stage of the later ''[[Silmarillion]]'', [[J.R.R. Tolkien\|Tolkien]] rearranged several details: the language described as Old Noldorin is taken by the Noldorin dialect of [[Quenya]], and the language called Noldorin was renamed "[[Sindarin]]" and took the place of the vernacular Ilkorin in [[Beleriand]].	+	In the stage of the later ''[[The Silmarillion\|Silmarillion]]'''', [[J.R.R. Tolkien\|Tolkien]] rearranged several details: the language described as Old Noldorin is taken by the Noldorin dialect of [[Quenya]], and the language called Noldorin was renamed "[[Sindarin]]" and took the place of the vernacular Ilkorin in [[Beleriand]].

	Old Noldorin belongs to a chronological and phonological stage which Sindarin would normally also had passed through, specifically a stage when final vowels still existed, and consonants did not undergo [[lenition]] yet; however this stage is not named or described by Tolkien other than some example etymological reconstructions.<ref>{{WJ\|Quendi}}</ref> Fans name this phase "[[Old Sindarin]]".		Old Noldorin belongs to a chronological and phonological stage which Sindarin would normally also had passed through, specifically a stage when final vowels still existed, and consonants did not undergo [[lenition]] yet; however this stage is not named or described by Tolkien other than some example etymological reconstructions.<ref>{{WJ\|Quendi}}</ref> Fans name this phase "[[Old Sindarin]]".

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2010-12-14T19:24:18Z

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	In the [[Great Lands]], the language evolved as [[Noldorin]] through contact with [[Ilkorin]].		In the [[Great Lands]], the language evolved as [[Noldorin]] through contact with [[Ilkorin]].
	==Canonicity==		==Canonicity==
−	In the stage of the later ''[[Silmarillion]]'', [[Tolkien]] rearranged several details: the language described as Old Noldorin is taken by the Noldorin dialect of [[Quenya]], and the language called Noldorin was renamed "[[Sindarin]]" and took the place of the vernacular Ilkorin in [[Beleriand]].	+	In the stage of the later ''[[Silmarillion]]'', [[J.R.R. Tolkien\|Tolkien]] rearranged several details: the language described as Old Noldorin is taken by the Noldorin dialect of [[Quenya]], and the language called Noldorin was renamed "[[Sindarin]]" and took the place of the vernacular Ilkorin in [[Beleriand]].

	Old Noldorin belongs to a chronological and phonological stage which Sindarin would normally also had passed through, specifically a stage when final vowels still existed, and consonants did not undergo [[lenition]] yet; however this stage is not named or described by Tolkien other than some example etymological reconstructions.<ref>{{WJ\|Quendi}}</ref> Fans name this phase "[[Old Sindarin]]".		Old Noldorin belongs to a chronological and phonological stage which Sindarin would normally also had passed through, specifically a stage when final vowels still existed, and consonants did not undergo [[lenition]] yet; however this stage is not named or described by Tolkien other than some example etymological reconstructions.<ref>{{WJ\|Quendi}}</ref> Fans name this phase "[[Old Sindarin]]".

Morgan: /* Canonicity */ missing letter

2010-12-09T10:09:18Z

Canonicity: missing letter

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	In the stage of the later ''[[Silmarillion]]'', [[Tolkien]] rearranged several details: the language described as Old Noldorin is taken by the Noldorin dialect of [[Quenya]], and the language called Noldorin was renamed "[[Sindarin]]" and took the place of the vernacular Ilkorin in [[Beleriand]].		In the stage of the later ''[[Silmarillion]]'', [[Tolkien]] rearranged several details: the language described as Old Noldorin is taken by the Noldorin dialect of [[Quenya]], and the language called Noldorin was renamed "[[Sindarin]]" and took the place of the vernacular Ilkorin in [[Beleriand]].

−	Old Noldorin belongs to a chronological and phonological stage which Sindarin would normally also had passed through, specifically a stage when final vowels still existed, and consonants did not undergo [[lenition]] yet; however this ~~sage~~ is not named or described by Tolkien other than some example etymological reconstructions.<ref>{{WJ\|Quendi}}</ref> Fans name this phase "[[Old Sindarin]]".	+	Old Noldorin belongs to a chronological and phonological stage which Sindarin would normally also had passed through, specifically a stage when final vowels still existed, and consonants did not undergo [[lenition]] yet; however this stage is not named or described by Tolkien other than some example etymological reconstructions.<ref>{{WJ\|Quendi}}</ref> Fans name this phase "[[Old Sindarin]]".
	{{references}}		{{references}}

Sage: /* Canonicity */

2010-11-06T16:08:55Z

Canonicity

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	In the stage of the later ''[[Silmarillion]]'', [[Tolkien]] rearranged several details: the language described as Old Noldorin is taken by the Noldorin dialect of [[Quenya]], and the language called Noldorin was renamed "[[Sindarin]]" and took the place of the vernacular Ilkorin in [[Beleriand]].		In the stage of the later ''[[Silmarillion]]'', [[Tolkien]] rearranged several details: the language described as Old Noldorin is taken by the Noldorin dialect of [[Quenya]], and the language called Noldorin was renamed "[[Sindarin]]" and took the place of the vernacular Ilkorin in [[Beleriand]].

−	Old Noldorin belongs to a chronological and phonological stage which Sindarin would normally also had passed through; however it is not named or described by Tolkien other than some example etymological reconstructions.<ref>{{WJ\|Quendi}}</ref> Fans name this phase "[[Old Sindarin]]".	+	Old Noldorin belongs to a chronological and phonological stage which Sindarin would normally also had passed through, specifically a stage when final vowels still existed, and consonants did not undergo [[lenition]] yet; however this sage is not named or described by Tolkien other than some example etymological reconstructions.<ref>{{WJ\|Quendi}}</ref> Fans name this phase "[[Old Sindarin]]".
	{{references}}		{{references}}

Morgan at 18:45, 27 October 2010

2010-10-27T18:45:27Z

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	'''Kornoldorin''', "Noldorin of [[Kôr]]", or '''Korolambë''', "Tongue of [[Kôr]]", was the language of the [[Noldoli]] in [[Valinor]]. The Noldor used it beside [[Qenya]], but unlike Qenya, it changed fast as the Noldor devised new words and structures by themselves.<ref>{{LR\|Lhammas}}</ref>		'''Kornoldorin''', "Noldorin of [[Kôr]]", or '''Korolambë''', "Tongue of [[Kôr]]", was the language of the [[Noldoli]] in [[Valinor]]. The Noldor used it beside [[Qenya]], but unlike Qenya, it changed fast as the Noldor devised new words and structures by themselves.<ref>{{LR\|Lhammas}}</ref>

−	Old Noldorin shares several attested words with Qenya (like ''[[malina]], [[míre]], [[parma]], [[randa]], [[rauta]], [[rimba]], [[rimbe]], [[ringe]], [[runda]], [[síre]], [[yaiwe]]'') and [[Telerin]] (''[[branda]], [[Bana]], [[belda]]'')<ref>{{LR\|Etymologies}}</ref>	+	Old Noldorin shares several attested words with Qenya (like ''[[malina]], [[míre]], [[parma]], [[randa]], [[rauta]], [[rimba]], [[rimbe]], [[ringe]], [[runda]], [[síre]], [[yaiwe]]'') and [[Telerin]] (''[[branda]], [[Bana]], [[belda]]'').<ref>{{LR\|Etymologies}}</ref>

	The language also presented several minor changes of vowels and consonants over Telerin; compare T. ''[[alpa]]'' "swan" vs ON. ''[[alpha]]'' (which brought Noldorin ''[[alph]]'')		The language also presented several minor changes of vowels and consonants over Telerin; compare T. ''[[alpa]]'' "swan" vs ON. ''[[alpha]]'' (which brought Noldorin ''[[alph]]'')
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	In the stage of the later ''[[Silmarillion]]'', [[Tolkien]] rearranged several details: the language described as Old Noldorin is taken by the Noldorin dialect of [[Quenya]], and the language called Noldorin was renamed "[[Sindarin]]" and took the place of the vernacular Ilkorin in [[Beleriand]].		In the stage of the later ''[[Silmarillion]]'', [[Tolkien]] rearranged several details: the language described as Old Noldorin is taken by the Noldorin dialect of [[Quenya]], and the language called Noldorin was renamed "[[Sindarin]]" and took the place of the vernacular Ilkorin in [[Beleriand]].

−	Old Noldorin belongs to a chronological and phonological stage which Sindarin would normally also had passed through; however it is not named or described by Tolkien other than some example etymological reconstructions<ref>{{WJ\|Quendi}}</ref>. Fans name this phase "[[Old Sindarin]]".	+	Old Noldorin belongs to a chronological and phonological stage which Sindarin would normally also had passed through; however it is not named or described by Tolkien other than some example etymological reconstructions.<ref>{{WJ\|Quendi}}</ref> Fans name this phase "[[Old Sindarin]]".
	{{references}}		{{references}}

Sage at 16:04, 27 October 2010

2010-10-27T16:04:36Z

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	'''Kornoldorin''', "Noldorin of [[Kôr]]", or '''Korolambë''', "Tongue of [[Kôr]]", was the language of the [[Noldoli]] in [[Valinor]]. The Noldor used it beside [[Qenya]], but unlike Qenya, it changed fast as the Noldor devised new words and structures by themselves.<ref>{{LR\|Lhammas}}</ref>		'''Kornoldorin''', "Noldorin of [[Kôr]]", or '''Korolambë''', "Tongue of [[Kôr]]", was the language of the [[Noldoli]] in [[Valinor]]. The Noldor used it beside [[Qenya]], but unlike Qenya, it changed fast as the Noldor devised new words and structures by themselves.<ref>{{LR\|Lhammas}}</ref>

−	Old Noldorin shares several words with ~~Quenya~~ (like ''[[malina]], [[míre]], [[parma]], [[randa]], [[rauta]], [[rimba]], [[rimbe]], [[ringe]], [[runda]], [[síre]], [[yaiwe]]'') and [[Telerin]] (''[[branda]], [[Bana]], [[belda]]'')<ref>{{LR\|Etymologies}}</ref>	+	Old Noldorin shares several attested words with Qenya (like ''[[malina]], [[míre]], [[parma]], [[randa]], [[rauta]], [[rimba]], [[rimbe]], [[ringe]], [[runda]], [[síre]], [[yaiwe]]'') and [[Telerin]] (''[[branda]], [[Bana]], [[belda]]'')<ref>{{LR\|Etymologies}}</ref>
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		+	The language also presented several minor changes of vowels and consonants over Telerin; compare T. ''[[alpa]]'' "swan" vs ON. ''[[alpha]]'' (which brought Noldorin ''[[alph]]'')

	In the [[Great Lands]], the language evolved as [[Noldorin]] through contact with [[Ilkorin]].		In the [[Great Lands]], the language evolved as [[Noldorin]] through contact with [[Ilkorin]].

Sage at 15:55, 27 October 2010

2010-10-27T15:55:45Z

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	'''Kornoldorin''', "Noldorin of [[Kôr]]", or '''Korolambë''', "Tongue of [[Kôr]]", was the language of the [[Noldoli]] in [[Valinor]]. The Noldor used it beside [[Qenya]], but unlike Qenya, it changed fast as the Noldor devised new words and structures by themselves.<ref>{{LR\|Lhammas}}</ref>		'''Kornoldorin''', "Noldorin of [[Kôr]]", or '''Korolambë''', "Tongue of [[Kôr]]", was the language of the [[Noldoli]] in [[Valinor]]. The Noldor used it beside [[Qenya]], but unlike Qenya, it changed fast as the Noldor devised new words and structures by themselves.<ref>{{LR\|Lhammas}}</ref>

−	Old Noldorin shares several words with Quenya (like ''[[malina]], [[míre]], [[parma]], [[randa]], [[rauta]], [[rimba]], [[rimbe]], [[ringe]], [[runda]], [[síre]], [[yaiwe]]'') and [[Telerin]] (''[[branda]], [[Bana]], [[belda]]'')	+	Old Noldorin shares several words with Quenya (like ''[[malina]], [[míre]], [[parma]], [[randa]], [[rauta]], [[rimba]], [[rimbe]], [[ringe]], [[runda]], [[síre]], [[yaiwe]]'') and [[Telerin]] (''[[branda]], [[Bana]], [[belda]]'')<ref>{{LR\|Etymologies}}</ref>

	In the [[Great Lands]], the language evolved as [[Noldorin]] through contact with [[Ilkorin]].		In the [[Great Lands]], the language evolved as [[Noldorin]] through contact with [[Ilkorin]].