Lhûn - Revision history

Sage: /* Etymology */

2012-12-31T12:26:35Z

Etymology

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	==Etymology==		==Etymology==
−	The meaning of ''Lhûn'' is not known. In connection with its first appearance, in a manuscript dating from ca. 1940, the translation "Blue River" is given.<ref>{{HM\|TI}}, "VI. The Council of Elrond (1): The Third Version, (iii)", p. 124</ref><ref name=VT48a5>{{VT\|48a5}}</ref> Apparently, Tolkien originally envisioned it as [[Noldorin]] for "blue".<ref>{{LR\|Etymologies}} (entry for LUG<sup>2</sup>-)</ref> ''Lhûn'', and especially the initial ''/lh/'', may have been valid in Noldorin, it was not so in [[Sindarin]], so Tolkien had to rewrite the etymology. He considered the following:<ref name=VT48a5/><ref>{{PE\|17}}, pp. 136-7</ref>	+	The meaning of ''Lhûn'' is not known. In connection with its first appearance, in a manuscript dating from ca. 1940, the translation "Blue River" is given.<ref>{{HM\|TI}}, "VI. The Council of Elrond (1): The Third Version, (iii)", p. 124</ref><ref name=VT48a5>{{VT\|48a5}}</ref> Apparently, Tolkien originally envisioned it as [[Noldorin]] for "blue" (cf. [[Sindarin]] ''[[luin]]'').<ref>{{LR\|Etymologies}} (entry for LUG<sup>2</sup>-)</ref> ''Lhûn'', and especially the initial ''/lh/'', may have been valid in Noldorin, it was not so in [[Sindarin]], so Tolkien had to rewrite the etymology. He considered the following:<ref name=VT48a5/><ref>{{PE\|17}}, pp. 136-7</ref>
	* [[Common Eldarin\|CE]] Slōna, "floody"		* [[Common Eldarin\|CE]] Slōna, "floody"
	* CE Slōnā, "in flood, full of water" (during melting season)		* CE Slōnā, "in flood, full of water" (during melting season)

KingAragorn Bot: Bot comment: changed category.

2012-06-13T18:05:34Z

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Dwarf Lord at 19:53, 25 March 2011

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	\| name=Lhûn		\| name=Lhûn
	\| type=River		\| type=River
−	\| location=~~western~~ [[Eriador]]	+	\| location=Western [[Eriador]], east of the [[Ered Luin]]
	\| inhabitants=		\| inhabitants=
−	\| realms=[[Arnor]], [[~~Mithlond~~]]	+	\| realms=[[Arnor]], [[Lindon]]
−	\| description=	+	\| description=A great river in northwest Middle-Earth
	\| othernames=Lune		\| othernames=Lune
−	\| etymology=	+	\| etymology=See below
	\| events=		\| events=
	\| references=		\| references=

Mithbot: Bot Message: changing link to The One Ring

2011-01-14T17:30:14Z

Bot Message: changing link to The One Ring

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	Of old, the Lhûn had been a line of defense: first against Sauron, and later against the [[Witch-king]].		Of old, the Lhûn had been a line of defense: first against Sauron, and later against the [[Witch-king]].

−	Following the forging of ~~the~~ [[One Ring]] and the [[Sack of Eregion]], [[Sauron]] ruled most of Eriador. [[Gil-galad]] and [[Elendil]] were desperately protecting the [[Grey Havens]], and managed to hold the Lhûn.<ref>{{HM\|UT}}, "[[The History of Galadriel and Celeborn]]", "Concerning Galadriel and Celeborn"</ref>	+	Following the forging of [[the One Ring]] and the [[Sack of Eregion]], [[Sauron]] ruled most of Eriador. [[Gil-galad]] and [[Elendil]] were desperately protecting the [[Grey Havens]], and managed to hold the Lhûn.<ref>{{HM\|UT}}, "[[The History of Galadriel and Celeborn]]", "Concerning Galadriel and Celeborn"</ref>

	In the [[Third Age]], the Lhûn formed the border between [[Mithlond]] and [[Arnor]].<ref>{{HM\|AA}}, "Eriador, Arnor and the Heirs of Isildur"</ref> During the [[Angmar War\|War with Angmar]], it formed the end of the [[Witch-king]]'s influence: many of the Dúnedain fled across it. When [[Eärnil II]] came, passage was won back over it. With their defeat imminent, many of the Witch-king's minions drowned in the river Lhûn.<ref>{{HM\|AA}}, "Gondor and the Heirs of Anarion"</ref>		In the [[Third Age]], the Lhûn formed the border between [[Mithlond]] and [[Arnor]].<ref>{{HM\|AA}}, "Eriador, Arnor and the Heirs of Isildur"</ref> During the [[Angmar War\|War with Angmar]], it formed the end of the [[Witch-king]]'s influence: many of the Dúnedain fled across it. When [[Eärnil II]] came, passage was won back over it. With their defeat imminent, many of the Witch-king's minions drowned in the river Lhûn.<ref>{{HM\|AA}}, "Gondor and the Heirs of Anarion"</ref>

Morgan: /* Etymology */

2010-10-17T21:50:58Z

Etymology

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	==Etymology==		==Etymology==
−	The meaning of ''Lhûn'' is not known. In connection with its first appearance, in a manuscript dating from ca. 1940, the translation "Blue River" is given.<ref>{{HM\|TI}}, "VI. The Council of Elrond (1): The Third Version, (iii)", p. 124</ref><ref name=VT48a5>{{VT\|48a5}}</ref> Apparently, Tolkien originally envisioned it as [[Noldorin]] for "blue".<ref>{{LR\|Etymologies}} (entry for ~~'''~~LUG<sup>2</sup>)-~~'''~~</ref> ''Lhûn'', and especially the initial ''/lh/'', may have been valid in Noldorin, it was not so in [[Sindarin]], so Tolkien had to rewrite the etymology. He considered the following:<ref name=VT48a5/><ref>{{PE\|17}}, pp. 136-7</ref>	+	The meaning of ''Lhûn'' is not known. In connection with its first appearance, in a manuscript dating from ca. 1940, the translation "Blue River" is given.<ref>{{HM\|TI}}, "VI. The Council of Elrond (1): The Third Version, (iii)", p. 124</ref><ref name=VT48a5>{{VT\|48a5}}</ref> Apparently, Tolkien originally envisioned it as [[Noldorin]] for "blue".<ref>{{LR\|Etymologies}} (entry for LUG<sup>2</sup>-)</ref> ''Lhûn'', and especially the initial ''/lh/'', may have been valid in Noldorin, it was not so in [[Sindarin]], so Tolkien had to rewrite the etymology. He considered the following:<ref name=VT48a5/><ref>{{PE\|17}}, pp. 136-7</ref>
	* [[Common Eldarin\|CE]] Slōna, "floody"		* [[Common Eldarin\|CE]] Slōna, "floody"
	* CE Slōnā, "in flood, full of water" (during melting season)		* CE Slōnā, "in flood, full of water" (during melting season)

Morgan: /* Etymology */ Some expansion+more refs

2010-10-17T21:50:05Z

Etymology: Some expansion+more refs

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	==Etymology==		==Etymology==
−	The meaning of Lhûn is not known. ~~Originally~~, Tolkien envisioned it as [[Noldorin]] for "blue". ''Lhûn'', and especially the initial ''/lh/'', may have been valid in Noldorin, it was not so in [[Sindarin]], so Tolkien had to rewrite the etymology. He considered the following:<ref~~>{{VT\|48a5}}<~~/~~ref~~><ref>{{PE\|17}}, pp. 136-7</ref>	+	The meaning of ''Lhûn'' is not known. In connection with its first appearance, in a manuscript dating from ca. 1940, the translation "Blue River" is given.<ref>{{HM\|TI}}, "VI. The Council of Elrond (1): The Third Version, (iii)", p. 124</ref><ref name=VT48a5>{{VT\|48a5}}</ref> Apparently, Tolkien originally envisioned it as [[Noldorin]] for "blue".<ref>{{LR\|Etymologies}} (entry for '''LUG<sup>2</sup>)-'''</ref> ''Lhûn'', and especially the initial ''/lh/'', may have been valid in Noldorin, it was not so in [[Sindarin]], so Tolkien had to rewrite the etymology. He considered the following:<ref name=VT48a5/><ref>{{PE\|17}}, pp. 136-7</ref>
	* [[Common Eldarin\|CE]] Slōna, "floody"		* [[Common Eldarin\|CE]] Slōna, "floody"
	* CE Slōnā, "in flood, full of water" (during melting season)		* CE Slōnā, "in flood, full of water" (during melting season)
	* CE Slounā, "flow freely"		* CE Slounā, "flow freely"
	* CE Slōno, "deep of water, applied originally to the Gulf!"		* CE Slōno, "deep of water, applied originally to the Gulf!"
−	* A renaming to ''Sîr Luin'', "Blue River"	+	* A renaming to ''[[Sîr]] [[Luin]]'', "Blue River"
	* CE Slōn, "sound"		* CE Slōn, "sound"
	* A [[Khuzdul]] origin, ''[[salôn]]'' or ''[[sulûn]]'', "fall, descend swiftly"		* A [[Khuzdul]] origin, ''[[salôn]]'' or ''[[sulûn]]'', "fall, descend swiftly"

Morgan: changed image size

2010-10-17T21:25:49Z

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−	\| image=[[Image:Lhun.jpg\|~~200px~~]]	+	\| image=[[Image:Lhun.jpg\|250px]]
	\| name=Lhûn		\| name=Lhûn
	\| type=River		\| type=River

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2010-10-17T21:23:44Z

Etymology: moved ref

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	==Etymology==		==Etymology==
−	The meaning of Lhûn is not known. Originally, Tolkien envisioned it as [[Noldorin]] for "blue". ''Lhûn'', and especially the initial ''/lh/'', may have been valid in Noldorin, it was not so in [[Sindarin]], so Tolkien had to rewrite the etymology. He considered the following:	+	The meaning of Lhûn is not known. Originally, Tolkien envisioned it as [[Noldorin]] for "blue". ''Lhûn'', and especially the initial ''/lh/'', may have been valid in Noldorin, it was not so in [[Sindarin]], so Tolkien had to rewrite the etymology. He considered the following:<ref>{{VT\|48a5}}</ref><ref>{{PE\|17}}, pp. 136-7</ref>
	* [[Common Eldarin\|CE]] Slōna, "floody"		* [[Common Eldarin\|CE]] Slōna, "floody"
	* CE Slōnā, "in flood, full of water" (during melting season)		* CE Slōnā, "in flood, full of water" (during melting season)
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	* A renaming to ''Sîr Luin'', "Blue River"		* A renaming to ''Sîr Luin'', "Blue River"
	* CE Slōn, "sound"		* CE Slōn, "sound"
−	* A [[Khuzdul]] origin, ''[[salôn]]'' or ''[[sulûn]]'', "fall, descend swiftly"~~<ref>{{VT\|48a5}}</ref><ref>{{PE\|17}}, pp. 136-7</ref>~~	+	* A [[Khuzdul]] origin, ''[[salôn]]'' or ''[[sulûn]]'', "fall, descend swiftly"

	{{references}}		{{references}}

Morgan: Image link and minor reference expansion

2010-10-17T21:23:05Z

Image link and minor reference expansion

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	\| name=Lhûn		\| name=Lhûn
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	* A renaming to ''Sîr Luin'', "Blue River"		* A renaming to ''Sîr Luin'', "Blue River"
	* CE Slōn, "sound"		* CE Slōn, "sound"
−	* A [[Khuzdul]] origin, ''[[salôn]]'' or ''[[sulûn]]'', "fall, descend swiftly"<ref>~~[[Patrick H~~. ~~Wynne]], "The Problem of Lhûn", published in [[Vinyar Tengwar 48]] (December [[2005]])~~</ref>	+	* A [[Khuzdul]] origin, ''[[salôn]]'' or ''[[sulûn]]'', "fall, descend swiftly"<ref>{{VT\|48a5}}</ref><ref>{{PE\|17}}, pp. 136-7</ref>

	{{references}}		{{references}}

KingAragorn at 21:59, 2 September 2010

2010-09-02T21:59:25Z

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	[[Category:Eriador]]		[[Category:Eriador]]
		+	[[Category:Lindon]]
		+	[[Category:Rivers]]
	[[Category:Sindarin Locations]]		[[Category:Sindarin Locations]]