Lisa Star - Revision history

Morgan: Added bibliography

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Added bibliography

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	'''Lisa Star''' edited the journal ''[[Tyalië Tyelelliéva]]'' until [[2001]]. She also used to moderate the Elvish Linguistics mailing list.		'''Lisa Star''' edited the journal ''[[Tyalië Tyelelliéva]]'' until [[2001]]. She also used to moderate the Elvish Linguistics mailing list.

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	As of [[2008]] Star apparently has withdrawn from the [[Tolkien fandom\|Tolkien scene]] and nobody seemed to be able to contact her.<ref>Matthew "Tyrhael" Dinse, [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/34824 Message 34824], ''[[Elfling]]''</ref> Her official website received a final update in March [[2009]] before eventually disappearing because of [[Wikipedia:Geocities\|Geocities]] shutting down.<ref>[http://www.reocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/9902/ Archive of the final snapshot of her Geocities site]</ref>		As of [[2008]] Star apparently has withdrawn from the [[Tolkien fandom\|Tolkien scene]] and nobody seemed to be able to contact her.<ref>Matthew "Tyrhael" Dinse, [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/34824 Message 34824], ''[[Elfling]]''</ref> Her official website received a final update in March [[2009]] before eventually disappearing because of [[Wikipedia:Geocities\|Geocities]] shutting down.<ref>[http://www.reocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/9902/ Archive of the final snapshot of her Geocities site]</ref>

		+	==Bibliography==
		+	===Articles===
		+	*[[1992]]: [[Vinyar Tengwar 21\|''Vinyar Tengwar'' 21]]
		+	**"Quettare Kalyaina Eldalamberon: Illuminated Quenya Word-list"
		+	*[[1994]]: [[Tyalië Tyelelliéva 1\|''Tyalië Tyelelliéva'' 1]]
		+	**"Plural in Quenya"
		+	**"Danian Charm"
		+	**"Double-Line Tengwar Pen Initials"
		+	*[[1994]]: [[Tyalië Tyelelliéva 2\|''Tyalië Tyelelliéva'' 2]]
		+	**"Quenya Verb Suffixes: Transitive and Causative"
		+	**"Ubi Quent?"
		+	**"Danian Charm"
		+	*[[1994]]: [[Tyalië Tyelelliéva 3\|''Tyalië Tyelelliéva'' 3]]
		+	**"Quenya Mass Nouns and the Partitive Genitive"
		+	**"Gnomic Verses Project" (with Andy Mariani)
		+	*[[1995]]: [[Tyalië Tyelelliéva 4\|''Tyalië Tyelelliéva'' 4]]
		+	**"Cup and Ring Map"
		+	**"Dwarvish Wordlist"
		+	**"Runes of Erebor"
		+	*[[1995]]: [[Tyalië Tyelelliéva 5\|''Tyalië Tyelelliéva'' 5]]
		+	**"Hot News from the Ice Age"
		+	**"Glammarye: A Key"
		+	**"Armenian Bole Technique"
		+	**"Counting Flowers"
		+	*[[1995]]: [[Tyalië Tyelelliéva 6\|''Tyalië Tyelelliéva'' 6]]
		+	**"Ent Language"
		+	**"Hither, Thither and Yon"
		+	**"Glammarye: Tolkien and the Tree-Kings"
		+	**"Lege Artis"
		+	**"Among the Trees"
		+	*[[1995]]: [[Tyalië Tyelelliéva 7\|''Tyalië Tyelelliéva'' 7]]
		+	**"Scroll of the Kings of Numenor"
		+	**"The Ever-Horned One"
		+	*[[1996]]: [[Tyalië Tyelelliéva 9\|''Tyalië Tyelelliéva'' 9]]
		+	**"Inspired by Art: William Morris"
		+	*[[1998]]: [[Tyalië Tyelelliéva 12\|''Tyalië Tyelelliéva'' 12]]
		+	**"List of Versions of Namaria"
		+	**"Tempest in a Thimble"
		+	*[[1998]]: [[Tyalië Tyelelliéva 13\|''Tyalië Tyelelliéva'' 13]]
		+	**"Analysis of Doors of Moria Tengwar"
		+	*[[2000]]: [[Tyalië Tyelelliéva 14\|''Tyalië Tyelelliéva'' 14]]
		+	**"Agricultural Methods in Hobbiton"
		+	**"'She' and the Ruins of Kor"
		+	*[[2000]]: [[Tyalië Tyelelliéva 15\|''Tyalië Tyelelliéva'' 15]]
		+	**"Tolkien Collection at Marquette (Part 1)"
		+	*[[2001]]: [[Tyalië Tyelelliéva 16\|''Tyalië Tyelelliéva'' 16]]
		+	**"Tolkien Collection at Marquette (Part 2)"
		+	*[[2001]]: [[Tyalië Tyelelliéva 17\|''Tyalië Tyelelliéva'' 17]]
		+	**"Sôval Phâre Introduction, Grammar, and Tengwar"
		+	**"Languages of Rohan and Dale"
		+	**"The Tolkien Collection at Marquette, Part 4"
	{{References}}		{{References}}

J.R.R. Tolkien at 00:19, 17 July 2012

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	Star had criticised the "[[Elfconners]]" ([[Arden Smith]], [[Carl Hostetter]], [[Patrick Wynne]], [[Christopher Gilson]]) for their publishing methods. On [[28 October]] [[1996]] she posted in [[Tolklang]] her objections and requested a rapid publication of the original material.<ref>{{webcite\|author=Lisa Star\|articleurl=http://tolk:lang@tolklang.quettar.org/messages/Vol20/20.89\|articlename=Failure of Elfconners\|dated=28 October, 1996\|website=The Tolkien Language List}}</ref> She would later mention in her website, "There is no love lost between Carl Hostetter and me".<ref>{{webcite\|author=Lisa Star\|articleurl=http://www.reocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/9902/unpub.html\|articlename=A List of Tolkien's Unpublished and Slightly Published Manuscripts\|dated=August 2002\|website=Welcome to Tyalie Tyelellieva}}</ref>		Star had criticised the "[[Elfconners]]" ([[Arden Smith]], [[Carl Hostetter]], [[Patrick Wynne]], [[Christopher Gilson]]) for their publishing methods. On [[28 October]] [[1996]] she posted in [[Tolklang]] her objections and requested a rapid publication of the original material.<ref>{{webcite\|author=Lisa Star\|articleurl=http://tolk:lang@tolklang.quettar.org/messages/Vol20/20.89\|articlename=Failure of Elfconners\|dated=28 October, 1996\|website=The Tolkien Language List}}</ref> She would later mention in her website, "There is no love lost between Carl Hostetter and me".<ref>{{webcite\|author=Lisa Star\|articleurl=http://www.reocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/9902/unpub.html\|articlename=A List of Tolkien's Unpublished and Slightly Published Manuscripts\|dated=August 2002\|website=Welcome to Tyalie Tyelellieva}}</ref>

−	The information she provided has sometimes been criticised as inaccurate or imprecise<ref>"''Unfortunately, Lisa's linguistic informations often are very imprecise. P. e. she refers to a supposed usage of „Rohirian“ in [[The Peoples of Middle-earth\|PM]] p. 55 that does not exist; indeed the word does not occur anywhere in that book at all.''" ([[Andreas Moehn]][http://lalaith.vpsurf.de/Tolkien/How_to_speak_Rohirric.html])</ref> such as the reference to the supposed language "Mørk" by [[Tolkien]].<ref>{{webcite\|author=[[Patrick Wynne]] (as Pa2trick)\|articleurl=http://cavscrip.wordpress.com/category/the-baleful-eye/sophistry/starism/\|articlename=Mørk calling Orsøn, come in Orsøn …\|dated=February 22, 2006\|website=Caveat Scriptor}}</ref>	+	The information she provided has sometimes been criticised as inaccurate or imprecise,<ref>"''Unfortunately, Lisa's linguistic informations often are very imprecise. P. e. she refers to a supposed usage of „Rohirian“ in [[The Peoples of Middle-earth\|PM]] p. 55 that does not exist; indeed the word does not occur anywhere in that book at all.''" ([[Andreas Moehn]][http://lalaith.vpsurf.de/Tolkien/How_to_speak_Rohirric.html])</ref> such as the reference to the supposed language "Mørk" by [[Tolkien]].<ref>{{webcite\|author=[[Patrick Wynne]] (as Pa2trick)\|articleurl=http://cavscrip.wordpress.com/category/the-baleful-eye/sophistry/starism/\|articlename=Mørk calling Orsøn, come in Orsøn …\|dated=February 22, 2006\|website=Caveat Scriptor}}</ref>

	As of [[2008]] Star apparently has withdrawn from the [[Tolkien fandom\|Tolkien scene]] and nobody seemed to be able to contact her.<ref>Matthew "Tyrhael" Dinse, [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/34824 Message 34824], ''[[Elfling]]''</ref> Her official website received a final update in March [[2009]] before eventually disappearing because of [[Wikipedia:Geocities\|Geocities]] shutting down.<ref>[http://www.reocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/9902/ Archive of the final snapshot of her Geocities site]</ref>		As of [[2008]] Star apparently has withdrawn from the [[Tolkien fandom\|Tolkien scene]] and nobody seemed to be able to contact her.<ref>Matthew "Tyrhael" Dinse, [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/34824 Message 34824], ''[[Elfling]]''</ref> Her official website received a final update in March [[2009]] before eventually disappearing because of [[Wikipedia:Geocities\|Geocities]] shutting down.<ref>[http://www.reocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/9902/ Archive of the final snapshot of her Geocities site]</ref>

Sage: ok gathered all information i could find about her... hoping it's not too gossipish

2012-07-16T23:45:05Z

ok gathered all information i could find about her... hoping it's not too gossipish

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−	'''Lisa Star''' edited the journal ''[[Tyalië Tyelelliéva]]''. She also used to moderate the Elvish Linguistics mailing list.	+	'''Lisa Star''' edited the journal ''[[Tyalië Tyelelliéva]]'' until [[2001]]. She also used to moderate the Elvish Linguistics mailing list.

−	~~The information she provided has sometimes been accused of being inaccurate or imprecise,<ref>~~"~~Unfortunately~~, ~~Lisa's linguistic informations often are very imprecise. P. e~~. she ~~refers to a supposed usage of „Rohirian“~~ in ~~PM p. 55 that does not exist; indeed the word does not occur anywhere in that book at all." (~~[[~~Andreas Moehn~~]][http://~~lalaith~~.~~vpsurf~~.de/~~Tolkien~~/~~How_to_speak_Rohirric~~.~~html])~~</ref> ~~such as for example the reference to the supposed language~~ "~~Mørk~~" ~~by Tolkien~~.<ref>{{webcite\|author=~~[[Patrick Wynne]] (as Pa2trick)~~\|articleurl=http://~~cavscrip~~.~~wordpress~~.com/~~category~~/~~the-baleful-eye/sophistry~~/~~starism~~/\|articlename=~~Mørk calling Orsøn, come in Orsøn …~~\|dated=~~February 22, 2006~~\|website=~~Caveat Scriptor~~}}	+	Star had criticised the "[[Elfconners]]" ([[Arden Smith]], [[Carl Hostetter]], [[Patrick Wynne]], [[Christopher Gilson]]) for their publishing methods. On [[28 October]] [[1996]] she posted in [[Tolklang]] her objections and requested a rapid publication of the original material.<ref>{{webcite\|author=Lisa Star\|articleurl=http://tolk:lang@tolklang.quettar.org/messages/Vol20/20.89\|articlename=Failure of Elfconners\|dated=28 October, 1996\|website=The Tolkien Language List}}</ref> She would later mention in her website, "There is no love lost between Carl Hostetter and me".<ref>{{webcite\|author=Lisa Star\|articleurl=http://www.reocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/9902/unpub.html\|articlename=A List of Tolkien's Unpublished and Slightly Published Manuscripts\|dated=August 2002\|website=Welcome to Tyalie Tyelellieva}}</ref>
−	</ref>	+

−	As of [[2008]] Star ~~seemed to have~~ withdrawn from the [[Tolkien fandom\|Tolkien scene]] and nobody seemed to be able to contact her.<ref>Matthew "Tyrhael" Dinse, [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/34824 Message 34824], ''[[Elfling]]''</ref> Her official website received a final update in March [[2009]] before eventually disappearing because of [[Wikipedia:Geocities\|Geocities]] shutting down.	+	The information she provided has sometimes been criticised as inaccurate or imprecise<ref>"''Unfortunately, Lisa's linguistic informations often are very imprecise. P. e. she refers to a supposed usage of „Rohirian“ in [[The Peoples of Middle-earth\|PM]] p. 55 that does not exist; indeed the word does not occur anywhere in that book at all.''" ([[Andreas Moehn]][http://lalaith.vpsurf.de/Tolkien/How_to_speak_Rohirric.html])</ref> such as the reference to the supposed language "Mørk" by [[Tolkien]].<ref>{{webcite\|author=[[Patrick Wynne]] (as Pa2trick)\|articleurl=http://cavscrip.wordpress.com/category/the-baleful-eye/sophistry/starism/\|articlename=Mørk calling Orsøn, come in Orsøn …\|dated=February 22, 2006\|website=Caveat Scriptor}}</ref>
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		+	As of [[2008]] Star apparently has withdrawn from the [[Tolkien fandom\|Tolkien scene]] and nobody seemed to be able to contact her.<ref>Matthew "Tyrhael" Dinse, [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/34824 Message 34824], ''[[Elfling]]''</ref> Her official website received a final update in March [[2009]] before eventually disappearing because of [[Wikipedia:Geocities\|Geocities]] shutting down.<ref>[http://www.reocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/9902/ Archive of the final snapshot of her Geocities site]</ref>

	{{References}}		{{References}}

J.R.R. Tolkien at 23:26, 16 July 2012

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	'''Lisa Star''' edited the journal ''[[Tyalië Tyelelliéva]]''. She also used to moderate the Elvish Linguistics mailing list.		'''Lisa Star''' edited the journal ''[[Tyalië Tyelelliéva]]''. She also used to moderate the Elvish Linguistics mailing list.

−	The information she provided sometimes ~~had~~ been accused as inaccurate or imprecise.<ref>"Unfortunately, Lisa's linguistic informations often are very imprecise. P. e. she refers to a supposed usage of „Rohirian“ in PM p. 55 that does not exist; indeed the word does not occur anywhere in that book at all." ([[Andreas Moehn]][http://lalaith.vpsurf.de/Tolkien/How_to_speak_Rohirric.html])</ref> such as for example the reference to the supposed language "Mørk" by Tolkien.<ref>{{webcite\|author=[[Patrick Wynne]] (as Pa2trick)\|articleurl=http://cavscrip.wordpress.com/category/the-baleful-eye/sophistry/starism/\|articlename=Mørk calling Orsøn, come in Orsøn …\|dated=February 22, 2006\|website=Caveat Scriptor}}	+	The information she provided has sometimes been accused of being inaccurate or imprecise,<ref>"Unfortunately, Lisa's linguistic informations often are very imprecise. P. e. she refers to a supposed usage of „Rohirian“ in PM p. 55 that does not exist; indeed the word does not occur anywhere in that book at all." ([[Andreas Moehn]][http://lalaith.vpsurf.de/Tolkien/How_to_speak_Rohirric.html])</ref> such as for example the reference to the supposed language "Mørk" by Tolkien.<ref>{{webcite\|author=[[Patrick Wynne]] (as Pa2trick)\|articleurl=http://cavscrip.wordpress.com/category/the-baleful-eye/sophistry/starism/\|articlename=Mørk calling Orsøn, come in Orsøn …\|dated=February 22, 2006\|website=Caveat Scriptor}}
	</ref>		</ref>

Sage at 23:21, 16 July 2012

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	'''Lisa Star''' edited the journal ''[[Tyalië Tyelelliéva]]''. She also used to moderate the Elvish Linguistics mailing list.		'''Lisa Star''' edited the journal ''[[Tyalië Tyelelliéva]]''. She also used to moderate the Elvish Linguistics mailing list.

−	As of [[~~2008~~]] ~~Star seemed to have withdrawn from the [~~[Tolkien ~~fandom\|Tolkien scene]] and nobody seemed to be able to contact her~~.<ref>~~Matthew~~ "~~Tyrhael~~" ~~Dinse,~~ [http://~~groups~~.~~yahoo~~.com/~~group~~/~~elfling~~/~~message~~/~~34824 Message 34824]~~, ~~''[[Elfling]]''~~</ref> ~~Her official website received a final update in March [[2009]] before eventually disappearing because of [[Wikipedia:Geocities\|Geocities]] going offline.~~	+	The information she provided sometimes had been accused as inaccurate or imprecise.<ref>"Unfortunately, Lisa's linguistic informations often are very imprecise. P. e. she refers to a supposed usage of „Rohirian“ in PM p. 55 that does not exist; indeed the word does not occur anywhere in that book at all." ([[Andreas Moehn]][http://lalaith.vpsurf.de/Tolkien/How_to_speak_Rohirric.html])</ref> such as for example the reference to the supposed language "Mørk" by Tolkien.<ref>{{webcite\|author=[[Patrick Wynne]] (as Pa2trick)\|articleurl=http://cavscrip.wordpress.com/category/the-baleful-eye/sophistry/starism/\|articlename=Mørk calling Orsøn, come in Orsøn …\|dated=February 22, 2006\|website=Caveat Scriptor}}
		+	</ref>

−	~~Star claimed to had witnessing several Tolkien manuscripts at~~ [[~~Marquette~~]]~~. However the information she provided sometimes had been accused as inaccurate or imprecise.<ref>"Unfortunately, Lisa's linguistic informations often are very imprecise. P. e. she refers~~ to ~~a supposed usage of „Rohirian“ in PM p. 55 that does not exist; indeed~~ the ~~word does not occur anywhere in that book at all." (~~[[~~Andreas Moehn~~]]~~[http://lalaith~~.~~vpsurf.de/Tolkien/How_to_speak_Rohirric.html])~~</ref> ~~such as for example the reference to the supposed language~~ "~~Mørk~~" ~~by Tolkien.<ref>~~http://~~cavscrip~~.~~wordpress~~.com/~~category~~/~~the-baleful-eye~~/~~sophistry/starism~~/</ref>	+	As of [[2008]] Star seemed to have withdrawn from the [[Tolkien fandom\|Tolkien scene]] and nobody seemed to be able to contact her.<ref>Matthew "Tyrhael" Dinse, [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/34824 Message 34824], ''[[Elfling]]''</ref> Her official website received a final update in March [[2009]] before eventually disappearing because of [[Wikipedia:Geocities\|Geocities]] shutting down.

	{{References}}		{{References}}

Sage at 23:13, 16 July 2012

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	As of [[2008]] Star seemed to have withdrawn from the [[Tolkien fandom\|Tolkien scene]] and nobody seemed to be able to contact her.<ref>Matthew "Tyrhael" Dinse, [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/34824 Message 34824], ''[[Elfling]]''</ref> Her official website received a final update in March [[2009]] before eventually disappearing because of [[Wikipedia:Geocities\|Geocities]] going offline.		As of [[2008]] Star seemed to have withdrawn from the [[Tolkien fandom\|Tolkien scene]] and nobody seemed to be able to contact her.<ref>Matthew "Tyrhael" Dinse, [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/34824 Message 34824], ''[[Elfling]]''</ref> Her official website received a final update in March [[2009]] before eventually disappearing because of [[Wikipedia:Geocities\|Geocities]] going offline.
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		+	Star claimed to had witnessing several Tolkien manuscripts at [[Marquette]]. However the information she provided sometimes had been accused as inaccurate or imprecise.<ref>"Unfortunately, Lisa's linguistic informations often are very imprecise. P. e. she refers to a supposed usage of „Rohirian“ in PM p. 55 that does not exist; indeed the word does not occur anywhere in that book at all." ([[Andreas Moehn]][http://lalaith.vpsurf.de/Tolkien/How_to_speak_Rohirric.html])</ref> such as for example the reference to the supposed language "Mørk" by Tolkien.<ref>http://cavscrip.wordpress.com/category/the-baleful-eye/sophistry/starism/</ref>

	{{References}}		{{References}}

KingAragorn Bot at 22:51, 16 July 2012

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	As of [[2008]] Star seemed to have withdrawn from the [[Tolkien fandom\|Tolkien scene]] and nobody seemed to be able to contact her.<ref>Matthew "Tyrhael" Dinse, [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/34824 Message 34824], ''[[Elfling]]''</ref> Her official website received a final update in March [[2009]] before eventually disappearing because of [[Wikipedia:Geocities\|Geocities]] going offline.		As of [[2008]] Star seemed to have withdrawn from the [[Tolkien fandom\|Tolkien scene]] and nobody seemed to be able to contact her.<ref>Matthew "Tyrhael" Dinse, [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/34824 Message 34824], ''[[Elfling]]''</ref> Her official website received a final update in March [[2009]] before eventually disappearing because of [[Wikipedia:Geocities\|Geocities]] going offline.
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		+	{{References}}

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Sage at 22:49, 16 July 2012

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		+	As of [[2008]] Star seemed to have withdrawn from the [[Tolkien fandom\|Tolkien scene]] and nobody seemed to be able to contact her.<ref>Matthew "Tyrhael" Dinse, [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/34824 Message 34824], ''[[Elfling]]''</ref> Her official website received a final update in March [[2009]] before eventually disappearing because of [[Wikipedia:Geocities\|Geocities]] going offline.

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Morgan: Created page with "{{Incomplete}} '''Lisa Star''' edited the journal ''Tyalië Tyelelliéva''. {{DEFAULTSORT:Star, Lisa}} Category:American people Category:Linguists"

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	Star had criticised the "[[Elfconners]]" ([[Arden Smith]], [[Carl Hostetter]], [[Patrick Wynne]], [[Christopher Gilson]]) for their publishing methods. On [[28 October]] [[1996]] she posted in [[Tolklang]] her objections and requested a rapid publication of the original material.<ref>{{webcite\|author=Lisa Star\|articleurl=http://tolk:lang@tolklang.quettar.org/messages/Vol20/20.89\|articlename=Failure of Elfconners\|dated=28 October, 1996\|website=The Tolkien Language List}}</ref> She would later mention in her website, "There is no love lost between Carl Hostetter and me".<ref>{{webcite\|author=Lisa Star\|articleurl=http://www.reocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/9902/unpub.html\|articlename=A List of Tolkien's Unpublished and Slightly Published Manuscripts\|dated=August 2002\|website=Welcome to Tyalie Tyelellieva}}</ref>		Star had criticised the "[[Elfconners]]" ([[Arden Smith]], [[Carl Hostetter]], [[Patrick Wynne]], [[Christopher Gilson]]) for their publishing methods. On [[28 October]] [[1996]] she posted in [[Tolklang]] her objections and requested a rapid publication of the original material.<ref>{{webcite\|author=Lisa Star\|articleurl=http://tolk:lang@tolklang.quettar.org/messages/Vol20/20.89\|articlename=Failure of Elfconners\|dated=28 October, 1996\|website=The Tolkien Language List}}</ref> She would later mention in her website, "There is no love lost between Carl Hostetter and me".<ref>{{webcite\|author=Lisa Star\|articleurl=http://www.reocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/9902/unpub.html\|articlename=A List of Tolkien's Unpublished and Slightly Published Manuscripts\|dated=August 2002\|website=Welcome to Tyalie Tyelellieva}}</ref>

−	The information she provided has sometimes been criticised as inaccurate or imprecise<ref>"''Unfortunately, Lisa's linguistic informations often are very imprecise. P. e. she refers to a supposed usage of „Rohirian“ in [[The Peoples of Middle-earth\|PM]] p. 55 that does not exist; indeed the word does not occur anywhere in that book at all.''" ([[Andreas Moehn]][http://lalaith.vpsurf.de/Tolkien/How_to_speak_Rohirric.html])</ref> such as the reference to the supposed language "Mørk" by [[Tolkien]].<ref>{{webcite\|author=[[Patrick Wynne]] (as Pa2trick)\|articleurl=http://cavscrip.wordpress.com/category/the-baleful-eye/sophistry/starism/\|articlename=Mørk calling Orsøn, come in Orsøn …\|dated=February 22, 2006\|website=Caveat Scriptor}}</ref>	+	The information she provided has sometimes been criticised as inaccurate or imprecise,<ref>"''Unfortunately, Lisa's linguistic informations often are very imprecise. P. e. she refers to a supposed usage of „Rohirian“ in [[The Peoples of Middle-earth\|PM]] p. 55 that does not exist; indeed the word does not occur anywhere in that book at all.''" ([[Andreas Moehn]][http://lalaith.vpsurf.de/Tolkien/How_to_speak_Rohirric.html])</ref> such as the reference to the supposed language "Mørk" by [[Tolkien]].<ref>{{webcite\|author=[[Patrick Wynne]] (as Pa2trick)\|articleurl=http://cavscrip.wordpress.com/category/the-baleful-eye/sophistry/starism/\|articlename=Mørk calling Orsøn, come in Orsøn …\|dated=February 22, 2006\|website=Caveat Scriptor}}</ref>

	As of [[2008]] Star apparently has withdrawn from the [[Tolkien fandom\|Tolkien scene]] and nobody seemed to be able to contact her.<ref>Matthew "Tyrhael" Dinse, [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/34824 Message 34824], ''[[Elfling]]''</ref> Her official website received a final update in March [[2009]] before eventually disappearing because of [[Wikipedia:Geocities\|Geocities]] shutting down.<ref>[http://www.reocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/9902/ Archive of the final snapshot of her Geocities site]</ref>		As of [[2008]] Star apparently has withdrawn from the [[Tolkien fandom\|Tolkien scene]] and nobody seemed to be able to contact her.<ref>Matthew "Tyrhael" Dinse, [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/34824 Message 34824], ''[[Elfling]]''</ref> Her official website received a final update in March [[2009]] before eventually disappearing because of [[Wikipedia:Geocities\|Geocities]] shutting down.<ref>[http://www.reocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/9902/ Archive of the final snapshot of her Geocities site]</ref>