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==History==
==History==
Lone-lands was a name used by [[Hobbits]] (and possibly Men of [[Bree]]) for the wilderness west of Bree. Roads were considerably worse there than in the [[Shire]], and no-one dwelt there anymore by the end of the [[Third Age]]. There were many abandoned castles in the hilly region, which gave it a wicked look.<ref name="Mutton">[[J.R.R. Tolkien]], ''[[The Hobbit]]'', "[[Roast Mutton]]", second edition</ref>
Lone-lands was a name used by [[Hobbits]] (and possibly Men of [[Bree]]) for the wilderness west of Bree. Roads were considerably worse there than in the [[Shire]], and no-one dwelt there anymore by the end of the [[Third Age]]. There were many abandoned castles in the hilly region, which gave it a wicked look.<ref name="Mutton">[[J.R.R. Tolkien]], ''[[The Hobbit]]'', "[[Roast Mutton]]" (Second edition)</ref>


==Lone-lands and Eriador==
==Lone-lands and Eriador==
It is a subject of some debate whether the Lone-lands and Eriador are one and the same. Etymologies given for ''Eriador'' certainly suggest such a thing.<ref name="vt42">Fredrik Ström, [[Carl F. Hostetter]] (ed.), "Letters to VT", ''[[Vinyar Tengwar]]'', [[Vinyar Tengwar 42|vol. 42]], July [[2001]], p. 4</ref><ref name="pe17">[[J.R.R. Tolkien]], "Words, Phrases and Passages in The Lord of the Rings" in [[Parma Eldalamberon]] (ed. Christopher Gilson), [[Parma Eldalamberon 17|vol. 17]], July [[2007]], p. 28</ref> The two mentions of "Lone-lands" were not added until the second edition of ''[[The Hobbit]]'', published in [[1966]],<ref>[[J.R.R. Tolkien]], [[Douglas Anderson]] (ed.), ''[[The Annotated Hobbit]]'', [[Roast Mutton]], note 6</ref> well after the introduction of the word "Eriador" in ''[[The Fellowship of the Ring]]''.<ref>[[J.R.R. Tolkien]], ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'', ''[[The Fellowship of the Ring]]'', "[[Strider (chapter)|Strider]]"</ref> As the latter was spoken by [[Aragorn II|Aragorn]], who would know the Sindarin name, and the former by [[Bilbo Baggins|Bilbo]], who would not (yet) know the "foreign" name, it is not inconceivable that they refer to the same land.<ref name="vt42"/>
It is a subject of some debate whether the Lone-lands and Eriador are one and the same. Etymologies given for ''Eriador'' certainly suggest such a thing.<ref name="vt42">Fredrik Ström, [[Carl F. Hostetter]] (ed.), "Letters to VT", ''[[Vinyar Tengwar]]'', [[Vinyar Tengwar 42|vol. 42]], July [[2001]], p. 4</ref><ref name="pe17">[[J.R.R. Tolkien]], "Words, Phrases and Passages in The Lord of the Rings" in [[Parma Eldalamberon]] (ed. Christopher Gilson), [[Parma Eldalamberon 17|vol. 17]], July [[2007]], p. 28</ref> The two mentions of "Lone-lands" were not added until the revised, [[1966]] edition of ''[[The Hobbit]]'',<ref>[[Wayne G. Hammond]], [[Douglas Anderson]], ''[[J.R.R. Tolkien: A Descriptive Bibliography]]'', "A: Books by J.R.R. Tolkien]]", pages 30-31</ref> well after the introduction of the word "Eriador" in ''[[The Fellowship of the Ring]]''.<ref>[[J.R.R. Tolkien]], ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'', ''[[The Fellowship of the Ring]]'', "[[Strider (chapter)|Strider]]"</ref> As the latter was spoken by [[Aragorn II|Aragorn]], who would know the Sindarin name, and the former by [[Bilbo Baggins|Bilbo]], who would not (yet) know the "foreign" name, it is not inconceivable that they refer to the same land.<ref name="vt42"/>


==References==
==References==

Revision as of 14:36, 28 December 2008

The Lone-lands was an area in Eriador, or may even have been synonymous with it.

History

Lone-lands was a name used by Hobbits (and possibly Men of Bree) for the wilderness west of Bree. Roads were considerably worse there than in the Shire, and no-one dwelt there anymore by the end of the Third Age. There were many abandoned castles in the hilly region, which gave it a wicked look.[1]

Lone-lands and Eriador

It is a subject of some debate whether the Lone-lands and Eriador are one and the same. Etymologies given for Eriador certainly suggest such a thing.[2][3] The two mentions of "Lone-lands" were not added until the revised, 1966 edition of The Hobbit,[4] well after the introduction of the word "Eriador" in The Fellowship of the Ring.[5] As the latter was spoken by Aragorn, who would know the Sindarin name, and the former by Bilbo, who would not (yet) know the "foreign" name, it is not inconceivable that they refer to the same land.[2]

References

  1. J.R.R. Tolkien, The Hobbit, "Roast Mutton" (Second edition)
  2. 2.0 2.1 Fredrik Ström, Carl F. Hostetter (ed.), "Letters to VT", Vinyar Tengwar, vol. 42, July 2001, p. 4
  3. J.R.R. Tolkien, "Words, Phrases and Passages in The Lord of the Rings" in Parma Eldalamberon (ed. Christopher Gilson), vol. 17, July 2007, p. 28
  4. Wayne G. Hammond, Douglas Anderson, J.R.R. Tolkien: A Descriptive Bibliography, "A: Books by J.R.R. Tolkien]]", pages 30-31
  5. J.R.R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings, The Fellowship of the Ring, "Strider"