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'''Ogres''' were monstrous and destructive creatures of legend and folklore. In fact, it is doubtful whether Ogres ever existed in [[Middle-earth]].  
 
'''Ogres''' were monstrous and destructive creatures of legend and folklore. In fact, it is doubtful whether Ogres ever existed in [[Middle-earth]].  
  
During the [[Riddle-game]] with [[Gollum]], [[Bilbo Baggins]] in his attempt to solve Gollum's fifth riddle, he sat thinking of all the horrible names of all the giants and ogres he had ever heard told of in tales.<Ref>{{HM|H}}, ''[[Riddles in the Dark]]''</ref>.
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During the [[Riddle-game]] with [[Gollum]], [[Bilbo Baggins]] in his attempt to solve Gollum's fifth riddle, he sat thinking of all the horrible names of all the giants and ogres he had ever heard told of in tales.<Ref>{{H|Riddles}}</ref>.
  
 
No ogre is ever mentioned in the annals of the [[Elder Days]] and none played any role in the wars and battles. It is entirely possible that they were a mythical race.  
 
No ogre is ever mentioned in the annals of the [[Elder Days]] and none played any role in the wars and battles. It is entirely possible that they were a mythical race.  
  
It is also possible that Ogre is just another name for the [[Trolls]].
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It is also possible that Ogre were just another name for the [[Trolls]].
  
 
== Other versions of the legendarium ==
 
== Other versions of the legendarium ==
''Ogres'' were used by J.R.R. Tolkien in early drafts of Middle-earth as a name for one of the monsters bred by [[Melkor]] along with [[Gongs]] and the other [[Úvanimor]].<ref>{{HM|LT1}}</ref>
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''Ogres'' were used by [[J.R.R. Tolkien]] in early drafts of Middle-earth as a name for one of the monsters bred by [[Melkor]] along with [[Gongs]] and the other [[Úvanimor]].<ref>{{HM|LT1}}</ref>
  
They are mentioned as cannibal [[giant]]s. Those of the north were known as [[Hongwir]] while the southern ones were named [[Sarqindi]].<ref>''The Creatures of the Earth'', J.R.R. Tolkien (published in [[Parma Eldalamberon 14]])</ref>
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They are mentioned as cannibal [[giant]]s. Those of the north were known as ''Hongwir'' while the southern ones were named ''Sarqindi''.<ref>{{PE|14}}, "The Creatures of the Earth"</ref>
  
Tolkien mentioned once more ogres out of context in his analysis of the name [[Ettendales]] in ''[[Guide to the Names in The Lord of the Rings]]'': "This is meant to be a Common Speech (not Elvish) name, though it contains an obsolete element ''eten'' 'troll, ogre'."
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Tolkien mentioned again ogres out of context in analyses of the name ''[[Orcs|Orc]]'': "...the gloss ''Þyrs'' 'ogre'..." , and of the name ''[[Ettendales]]'': "This is meant to be a Common Speech (not Elvish) name, though it contains an obsolete element ''eten'' 'troll, ogre'."<ref>{{HM|N}}, pp. 762, 770</ref>
 
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Revision as of 14:00, 16 October 2010

Ogres were monstrous and destructive creatures of legend and folklore. In fact, it is doubtful whether Ogres ever existed in Middle-earth.

During the Riddle-game with Gollum, Bilbo Baggins in his attempt to solve Gollum's fifth riddle, he sat thinking of all the horrible names of all the giants and ogres he had ever heard told of in tales.[1].

No ogre is ever mentioned in the annals of the Elder Days and none played any role in the wars and battles. It is entirely possible that they were a mythical race.

It is also possible that Ogre were just another name for the Trolls.

Other versions of the legendarium

Ogres were used by J.R.R. Tolkien in early drafts of Middle-earth as a name for one of the monsters bred by Melkor along with Gongs and the other Úvanimor.[2]

They are mentioned as cannibal giants. Those of the north were known as Hongwir while the southern ones were named Sarqindi.[3]

Tolkien mentioned again ogres out of context in analyses of the name Orc: "...the gloss Þyrs 'ogre'..." , and of the name Ettendales: "This is meant to be a Common Speech (not Elvish) name, though it contains an obsolete element eten 'troll, ogre'."[4]

References

  1. J.R.R. Tolkien, The Hobbit, "Riddles in the Dark"
  2. J.R.R. Tolkien, Christopher Tolkien (ed.), The Book of Lost Tales Part One
  3. J.R.R. Tolkien, "Early Qenya and The Valmaric Script", in Parma Eldalamberon XIV (edited by Carl F. Hostetter, Christopher Gilson, Arden R. Smith, Patrick H. Wynne, and Bill Welden), "The Creatures of the Earth"
  4. J.R.R. Tolkien, "Nomenclature of The Lord of the Rings" in Wayne G. Hammond and Christina Scull (eds), The Lord of the Rings: A Reader's Companion, pp. 762, 770