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	==Inspiration==		==Inspiration==
−	~~inspired~~ by the ~~mental institutes~~.	+	{{quote\|The ingredients in Quenya are various, but worked out in a self-consistent character not precisely like any language that I know.\|[[J.R.R. Tolkien]]\|[[Parma Eldalamberon 17]], p. 135}}
		+	Quenya's phonology and grammar are most strongly influenced by Finnish, which is an agglutinative language; grammatical inspiration also comes from Latin and Greek. The phonology is also based on Finnish, and to a lesser extent Latin, Italian and Spanish. Some interesting phonological rules are that no consonant cluster can begin or end a syllable (with one exception, the dual dative ending -nt), a word may not end in a non-dental consonant, and voiced stops must be preceded by sonorants. The first two of these phonotactic rules also exist in Finnish.
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		+	The most striking feature of Quenya is that it is a highly agglutinating language, meaning that multiple affixes are often added to words to express grammatical function. It is possible for one Quenya word to have the same meaning as an entire English sentence. For example, one could say "I have found it" in Quenya in a single verb, namely ''utúvienyes''.
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		+	Tolkien intended Quenya to be an archaic, ancient and august language for the peoples of Middle-earth of the Third Age, being the cultural analogue of Latin in Europe<ref>{{app\|F1i}}</ref><ref>{{L\|347}}</ref>. For that reason, he decided to make Quenya look like Latin ocularly<ref>{{L\|144}}</ref> and substituted K for C and Q for QU.
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		+	Tolkien wrote much more material about Quenya and his other languages than he published in his lifetime. In fact, Tolkien, a professor of linguistics, originally invented Middle-earth and its inhabitants as a means of imposing upon his artificial languages a history of war, migration and suffering. The famous novels might be considered incidental to his further and more passionately developed linguistic hobby. The journals ''Vinyar Tengwar'' and ''Parma Eldalamberon'' are devoted to editing and publishing Tolkien's linguistic papers.
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		+	Quenya is one of many constructed languages introduced over the years by science fiction and fantasy writers, some others being Klingon, Newspeak, Nadsat, the Ascian language and Lapine.

	==Other versions of the Legendarium==		==Other versions of the Legendarium==

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	==Inspiration==		==Inspiration==
−	~~{{quote\|The ingredients in Quenya are various, but worked out in a self-consistent character not precisely like any language that I know.\|[[J.R.R. Tolkien]]\|[[Parma Eldalamberon 17]], p. 135}}~~	+	inspired by the mental institutes.
−	~~Quenya's phonology and grammar are most strongly influenced~~ by Finnish, which is an agglutinative language; grammatical inspiration also comes from Latin and Greek. The phonology is also based on Finnish, and to a lesser extent Latin, Italian and Spanish. Some interesting phonological rules are that no consonant cluster can begin or end a syllable (with one exception, the ~~dual dative ending -nt), a word may not end in a non-dental consonant, and voiced stops must be preceded by sonorants. The first two of these phonotactic rules also exist in Finnish.~~	+
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−	The most striking feature of Quenya is that it is a highly agglutinating language, meaning that multiple affixes are often added to words to express grammatical function. It is possible for one Quenya word to have the same meaning as an entire English sentence. For example, one could say "I have found it" in Quenya in a single verb, namely ''utúvienyes''.	+
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−	Tolkien intended Quenya to be an archaic, ancient and august language for the peoples of Middle-earth of the Third Age, being the cultural analogue of Latin in Europe<ref>{{app\|F1i}}</ref><ref>{{L\|347}}</ref>. For that reason, he decided to make Quenya look like Latin ocularly<ref>{{L\|144}}</ref> and substituted K for C and Q for QU.	+
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−	Tolkien wrote much more material about Quenya and his other languages than he published in his lifetime. In fact, Tolkien, a professor of linguistics, originally invented Middle-earth and its inhabitants as a means of imposing upon his artificial languages a history of war, migration and suffering. The famous novels might be considered incidental to his further and more passionately developed linguistic hobby. The journals ''Vinyar Tengwar'' and ''Parma Eldalamberon'' are devoted to editing and publishing Tolkien's linguistic papers.	+
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−	~~Quenya is one of many constructed languages introduced over the years by science fiction and fantasy writers, some others being Klingon, Newspeak, Nadsat, the Ascian language and Lapine~~.	+

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	==History==		==History==
−	~~Basically quenya is pretty stupid~~ and a ~~waste~~ of ~~your~~ time.	+	Of the three clans of Elves in Aman, the [[Noldor]] and the [[Vanyar]] spoke slightly different, though mutually intelligible, dialects of Quenya (''Noldorin Quenya'' and ''[[Vanyarin\|Vanyarin Quenya]]'' respectively). The word Quenya, however, usually refers to Noldorin Quenya, since it was the only Quenya dialect spoken in [[Middle-earth]].
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		+	The language was also adopted by the [[Valar]] who also made some new introductions into it from their [[Valarin\|own language]], though these loanwords are more numerous in the Vanyarin dialect than the Noldorin one. This is probably the case because of the enduringly close relationship the Vanyar had with the Valar. The third clan in Aman, the [[Teleri]], spoke a different, closely related language: [[Telerin]], although this was by some seen as a dialect of Quenya which was untrue in a historic perspective but plausible in a linguistic one; the languages did not share a common history but were very much alike.
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		+	The Noldor who fled to [[Middle-earth]] following the [[Darkening of Valinor]] spoke Quenya among themselves. However, when Elu [[Thingol]] of Doriath, who was the king of the [[Sindar]] (Elves of the Telerin line who remained in [[Beleriand]] instead of journeying to Valinor) learnt about their slaying of the Teleri, he forbade the use of Quenya in all his realm. The Sindar, had been slow to learn Quenya anyway, while the Noldor at this time had fully mastered Sindarin.
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		+	The Quenya used in Middle-earth of the [[Third Age]] (the time of the setting of ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'') had come to be a scholarly pursuit; it was not typically used in conversation. It was preserved as a formal language and for writing; Sindarin was the vernacular of all Elves. However, the Noldor still remembered Quenya and valued it highly; for example, [[Gildor]] and his party appreciated [[Frodo Baggins]]'s greeting ''Elen síla lúmenn' omentielvo''. ("A star shines on the hour of our meeting.") [[Galadriel]] was perhaps the only Elf in Middle-earth during the events of ''The Lord of the Rings'' who had learned Quenya as a cradle-tongue: she was born in Valinor, during the days of the Two Trees. Noldorin (Exilic) Quenya differed somewhat from Valinórean Quenya, because the language continued to evolve after exile, and it underwent some regularisation as it became a language of lore. There were also a few changes in pronunciation.
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		+	The poem [[Namárië]] is the longest piece of Quenya found in the ''Lord of the Rings''. It is also known as Galadriel's Lament.

	==Grammar==		==Grammar==

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	==History==		==History==
−	~~Of the three clans of Elves in Aman, the [[Noldor]]~~ and the [[Vanyar]] spoke slightly different, though mutually intelligible, dialects of Quenya (''Noldorin Quenya'' and ''[[Vanyarin\|Vanyarin Quenya]]'' respectively). The word Quenya, however, usually refers to Noldorin Quenya, since it was the only Quenya dialect spoken in [[Middle-earth]].	+	Basically quenya is pretty stupid and a waste of your time.
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−	The language was also adopted by the [[Valar]] who also made some new introductions into it from their [[Valarin\|own language]], though these loanwords are more numerous in the Vanyarin dialect than the Noldorin one. This is probably the case because of the enduringly close relationship the Vanyar had with the Valar. The third clan in Aman, the [[Teleri]], spoke a ~~different, closely related language: [[Telerin]], although this was by some seen as a dialect~~ of ~~Quenya which was untrue in a historic perspective but plausible in a linguistic one; the languages did not share a common history but were very much alike.~~	+
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−	The Noldor who fled to [[Middle-earth]] following the [[Darkening of Valinor]] spoke Quenya among themselves. However, when Elu [[Thingol]] of Doriath, who was the king of the [[Sindar]] (Elves of the Telerin line who remained in [[Beleriand]] instead of journeying to Valinor) learnt about their slaying of the Teleri, he forbade the use of Quenya in all his realm. The Sindar, had been slow to learn Quenya anyway, while the Noldor at this time ~~had fully mastered Sindarin.~~	+
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−	The Quenya used in Middle-earth of the [[Third Age]] (the time of the setting of ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'') had come to be a scholarly pursuit; it was not typically used in conversation. It was preserved as a formal language and for writing; Sindarin was the vernacular of all Elves. However, the Noldor still remembered Quenya and valued it highly; for example, [[Gildor]] and his party appreciated [[Frodo Baggins]]'s greeting ''Elen síla lúmenn' omentielvo''. ("A star shines on the hour of our meeting.") [[Galadriel]] was perhaps the only Elf in Middle-earth during the events of ''The Lord of the Rings'' who had learned Quenya as a cradle-tongue: she was born in Valinor, during the days of the Two Trees. Noldorin (Exilic) Quenya differed somewhat from Valinórean Quenya, because the language continued to evolve after exile, and it underwent some regularisation as it became a language of lore. There were also a few changes in pronunciation.	+
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−	~~The poem [[Namárië]] is the longest piece of Quenya found in the ''Lord of the Rings''. It is also known as Galadriel's Lament~~.	+

	==Grammar==		==Grammar==

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−	'''Quenya''' (pronounced [KWEN-ya])<ref>[[John D. Rateliff]], [[Jason Fisher]], [[Patrick H. Wynne]], et al. (mailing list discussion), "a quick ~~discussion~~" (#[http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mythsoc/message/24071 24071] and related messages; dated 29 January 2013), [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mythsoc/ Mytsoc mailing list] (accessed 30 January 2012)</ref> was one of the languages spoken by the [[Elves]]. It was the tongue that developed among those non-[[Teleri\|Telerin]] [[Elves]] who reached [[Aman]] (the [[High Elves]]) from an earlier language called [[Common Eldarin]]. Quenya was typically written with the [[Tengwar]] of [[Fëanor]]. An older script, [[Rúmil (elf of Tirion)\|Rúmil]]'s [[Sarati]], was used also.	+	'''Quenya''' (pronounced [KWEN-ya])<ref>[[John D. Rateliff]], [[Jason Fisher]], [[Patrick H. Wynne]], et al. (mailing list discussion), "a quick question" (#[http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mythsoc/message/24071 24071] and related messages; dated 29 January 2013), [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mythsoc/ Mytsoc mailing list] (accessed 30 January 2012)</ref> was one of the languages spoken by the [[Elves]]. It was the tongue that developed among those non-[[Teleri\|Telerin]] [[Elves]] who reached [[Aman]] (the [[High Elves]]) from an earlier language called [[Common Eldarin]]. Quenya was typically written with the [[Tengwar]] of [[Fëanor]]. An older script, [[Rúmil (elf of Tirion)\|Rúmil]]'s [[Sarati]], was used also.

	==History==		==History==

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	==Other versions of the Legendarium==		==Other versions of the Legendarium==
−	In early [[J.R.R. Tolkien\|Tolkien]]'s writings (see: ''[[The History of Middle-earth]]''), this language was called '''Qenya''' (although pronounced the same as ''Quenya''), and it underwent countless revisions in both grammar and vocabulary before it reached the form found in ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' and ''[[The Silmarillion]]''. The term Qenya is now used to distinguish between old Qenya and the new Quenya. However, the fluid nature of Quenya (or Qenya, for that matter) makes such a distinction a highly disputed one.	+	In early [[J.R.R. Tolkien\|Tolkien]]'s writings (see: ''[[The History of Middle-earth]]''), this language was called '''[[Qenya]]''' (although pronounced the same as ''Quenya''), and it underwent countless revisions in both grammar and vocabulary before it reached the form found in ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' and ''[[The Silmarillion]]''. The term Qenya is now used to distinguish between old Qenya and the new Quenya. However, the fluid nature of Quenya (or Qenya, for that matter) makes such a distinction a highly disputed one.

	==See also==		==See also==

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−	'''Quenya''' (~~pron~~. ~~{{IPA\|~~[~~ˈkʷeɲa~~]}}) was one of the languages spoken by the [[Elves]]. It was the tongue that developed among those non-[[Teleri\|Telerin]] [[Elves]] who reached [[Aman]] (the [[High Elves]]) from an earlier language called [[Common Eldarin]]. Quenya was typically written with the [[Tengwar]] of [[Fëanor]]. An older script, [[Rúmil (elf of Tirion)\|Rúmil]]'s [[Sarati]], was used also.	+	'''Quenya''' (pronounced [KWEN-ya])<ref>[[John D. Rateliff]], [[Jason Fisher]], [[Patrick H. Wynne]], et al. (mailing list discussion), "a quick discussion" (#[http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mythsoc/message/24071 24071] and related messages; dated 29 January 2013), [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mythsoc/ Mytsoc mailing list] (accessed 30 January 2012)</ref> was one of the languages spoken by the [[Elves]]. It was the tongue that developed among those non-[[Teleri\|Telerin]] [[Elves]] who reached [[Aman]] (the [[High Elves]]) from an earlier language called [[Common Eldarin]]. Quenya was typically written with the [[Tengwar]] of [[Fëanor]]. An older script, [[Rúmil (elf of Tirion)\|Rúmil]]'s [[Sarati]], was used also.

	==History==		==History==

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−	'''Quenya''' (pron. {{IPA\|[ˈkʷeɲa]}}) was one of the languages spoken by the [[Elves]]. It was the tongue that developed among those non-[[Teleri\|Telerin]] [[Elves]] who reached [[Aman]] (the [[High Elves]]) from an earlier language called [[Common Eldarin]]. Quenya was typically written with the [[Tengwar]] of [[Fëanor]]. An older script, [[Rúmil (~~Elf~~ of Tirion)\|Rúmil]]'s [[Sarati]], was used also.	+	'''Quenya''' (pron. {{IPA\|[ˈkʷeɲa]}}) was one of the languages spoken by the [[Elves]]. It was the tongue that developed among those non-[[Teleri\|Telerin]] [[Elves]] who reached [[Aman]] (the [[High Elves]]) from an earlier language called [[Common Eldarin]]. Quenya was typically written with the [[Tengwar]] of [[Fëanor]]. An older script, [[Rúmil (elf of Tirion)\|Rúmil]]'s [[Sarati]], was used also.

	==History==		==History==

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	The Noldor who fled to [[Middle-earth]] following the [[Darkening of Valinor]] spoke Quenya among themselves. However, when Elu [[Thingol]] of Doriath, who was the king of the [[Sindar]] (Elves of the Telerin line who remained in [[Beleriand]] instead of journeying to Valinor) learnt about their slaying of the Teleri, he forbade the use of Quenya in all his realm. The Sindar, had been slow to learn Quenya anyway, while the Noldor at this time had fully mastered Sindarin.		The Noldor who fled to [[Middle-earth]] following the [[Darkening of Valinor]] spoke Quenya among themselves. However, when Elu [[Thingol]] of Doriath, who was the king of the [[Sindar]] (Elves of the Telerin line who remained in [[Beleriand]] instead of journeying to Valinor) learnt about their slaying of the Teleri, he forbade the use of Quenya in all his realm. The Sindar, had been slow to learn Quenya anyway, while the Noldor at this time had fully mastered Sindarin.

−	The Quenya used in Middle-earth of the [[Third Age]] (the time of the setting of ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'') had come to be a scholarly pursuit; it was not typically used in conversation. It was preserved as a formal language and for writing; Sindarin was the vernacular of all Elves. However, the Noldor still remembered Quenya and valued it highly; for example, [[~~Gildor Inglorion\|~~Gildor]] and his party appreciated [[Frodo Baggins]]'s greeting ''Elen síla lúmenn' omentielvo''. ("A star shines on the hour of our meeting.") [[Galadriel]] was perhaps the only Elf in Middle-earth during the events of ''The Lord of the Rings'' who had learned Quenya as a cradle-tongue: she was born in Valinor, during the days of the Two Trees. Noldorin (Exilic) Quenya differed somewhat from Valinórean Quenya, because the language continued to evolve after exile, and it underwent some regularisation as it became a language of lore. There were also a few changes in pronunciation.	+	The Quenya used in Middle-earth of the [[Third Age]] (the time of the setting of ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'') had come to be a scholarly pursuit; it was not typically used in conversation. It was preserved as a formal language and for writing; Sindarin was the vernacular of all Elves. However, the Noldor still remembered Quenya and valued it highly; for example, [[Gildor]] and his party appreciated [[Frodo Baggins]]'s greeting ''Elen síla lúmenn' omentielvo''. ("A star shines on the hour of our meeting.") [[Galadriel]] was perhaps the only Elf in Middle-earth during the events of ''The Lord of the Rings'' who had learned Quenya as a cradle-tongue: she was born in Valinor, during the days of the Two Trees. Noldorin (Exilic) Quenya differed somewhat from Valinórean Quenya, because the language continued to evolve after exile, and it underwent some regularisation as it became a language of lore. There were also a few changes in pronunciation.

	The poem [[Namárië]] is the longest piece of Quenya found in the ''Lord of the Rings''. It is also known as Galadriel's Lament.		The poem [[Namárië]] is the longest piece of Quenya found in the ''Lord of the Rings''. It is also known as Galadriel's Lament.

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	*[[Tengwar]]		*[[Tengwar]]
	*[[Sarati]]		*[[Sarati]]
		+	*[[Arktik\|Arctic Quenya]]

	== External links ==		== External links ==