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'''''Note''''': This is reconstructed based on the root word '''RÁSAT'''. | '''''Note''''': This is reconstructed based on the root word '''RÁSAT'''. | ||
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{{quote|The ordinals evidently have the ending '''-ya''', but only the words for "first, second, third" are attested: '''minya''' (Silm:434), '''tatya''', and '''nelya''' (originally the three clans of the Elves were simply called '''Minyar''', '''Tatyar''', '''Nelyar''' "Firsts, Seconds, Thirds"; cf. also Maedhros' Quenya name '''Nelyafinwë''' "Finwë third", PM:352). "Fourth" might be *'''cantya''' or perhaps rather *'''canya''', following the pattern of '''nelya''' instead of '''neldya''' (neldë "three"), indicating that the shortest form of the stem is used to form ordinals (cf. the prefixes '''nel-''' and '''can-''' mentioned under NEL, KÁNAT - but *'''nelya''' instead of *'''neldya''' may also be due to the loss of '''d'''' before y in Noldorin Quenya). "Tenth" may be *'''cainenya''' (and hence *'''attacainenya''' "twentieth" etc). "Hundredth" is evidently *'''haranya''', the basis of the attested noun '''haranyë'''. However, it is not clear how the ending '''-ya''' will be added to '''lempë''', '''enquë''', '''otso''', '''tolto''', '''nertë''', '''minquë'''. One could use reduced forms of the stems and construct something like *'''lemya''' (or *'''lepya'''?) "fifth", *'''entya''' (for *'''encya''') "sixth", *'''otya''' "seventh", *'''toltya''', "eighth", *'''nertya''' "ninth", *'''mintya''' (for *'''mincya''') "eleventh". Alternatively another adjectival ending, such as '''-a''', might be employed to produce forms like *'''lempëa''', *'''enquëa''', *'''otsa''' (*'''otsëa'''?), *'''tolta''' (*'''toltëa'''?), *'''nertëa''', *'''minquëa'''. We do not know.|[http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/ Ardalambion], [http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/numerals.htm Quenya numerals]}} | |||
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The Quenya Numbers were as follows:
- minë = one
- atta = two
- neldë = three
- canta = four
- lempë = five
- enquë = six
- otso = seven
- tolto = eight
- nertë = nine
- cainen = ten
- minquë = eleven
- rasta = twelve (see Note below)
- haran = one hundred
Note: This is reconstructed based on the root word RÁSAT.
Ordinals
See the quote below:
- "The ordinals evidently have the ending -ya, but only the words for "first, second, third" are attested: minya (Silm:434), tatya, and nelya (originally the three clans of the Elves were simply called Minyar, Tatyar, Nelyar "Firsts, Seconds, Thirds"; cf. also Maedhros' Quenya name Nelyafinwë "Finwë third", PM:352). "Fourth" might be *cantya or perhaps rather *canya, following the pattern of nelya instead of neldya (neldë "three"), indicating that the shortest form of the stem is used to form ordinals (cf. the prefixes nel- and can- mentioned under NEL, KÁNAT - but *nelya instead of *neldya may also be due to the loss of d' before y in Noldorin Quenya). "Tenth" may be *cainenya (and hence *attacainenya "twentieth" etc). "Hundredth" is evidently *haranya, the basis of the attested noun haranyë. However, it is not clear how the ending -ya will be added to lempë, enquë, otso, tolto, nertë, minquë. One could use reduced forms of the stems and construct something like *lemya (or *lepya?) "fifth", *entya (for *encya) "sixth", *otya "seventh", *toltya, "eighth", *nertya "ninth", *mintya (for *mincya) "eleventh". Alternatively another adjectival ending, such as -a, might be employed to produce forms like *lempëa, *enquëa, *otsa (*otsëa?), *tolta (*toltëa?), *nertëa, *minquëa. We do not know."
- ― Ardalambion, Quenya numerals
