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	''Sirion'' is a [[Sindarin]]/[[Noldorin]] name which contains the element ''[[sîr]]''.<ref name=LR>{{LR\|Etymologies}}, p. 385</ref> Depending on the meaning of the second element, the name could either mean "great river" or "land of waters" (''[[-ion]]'' as augmentative suffix or archaic plural genitive suffix).<ref>[http://www.tolkiendil.com/langues/english/i-lam_arth/compound_sindarin_names#S Compound Sindarin Names in Middle-earth] at [http://www.tolkiendil.com Tolkiendil.com] (accessed 10 July 2011)</ref>		''Sirion'' is a [[Sindarin]]/[[Noldorin]] name which contains the element ''[[sîr]]''.<ref name=LR>{{LR\|Etymologies}}, p. 385</ref> Depending on the meaning of the second element, the name could either mean "great river" or "land of waters" (''[[-ion]]'' as augmentative suffix or archaic plural genitive suffix).<ref>[http://www.tolkiendil.com/langues/english/i-lam_arth/compound_sindarin_names#S Compound Sindarin Names in Middle-earth] at [http://www.tolkiendil.com Tolkiendil.com] (accessed 10 July 2011)</ref>

−	Its name in [[Khuzdul]] was ''[[Gabilān]]'', with the element ''[Gabil]]'' - "Great".<ref>{{WJ\|Maeglin}}, p. 336</ref>	+	Its name in [[Khuzdul]] was ''[[Gabilān]]'', with the element ''[[Gabil]]'' - "Great".<ref>{{WJ\|Maeglin}}, p. 336</ref>

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Etymology

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	''Sirion'' is a [[Sindarin]]/[[Noldorin]] name which contains the element ''[[sîr]]''.<ref name=LR>{{LR\|Etymologies}}, p. 385</ref> Depending on the meaning of the second element, the name could either mean "great river" or "land of waters" (''[[-ion]]'' as augmentative suffix or archaic plural genitive suffix).<ref>[http://www.tolkiendil.com/langues/english/i-lam_arth/compound_sindarin_names#S Compound Sindarin Names in Middle-earth] at [http://www.tolkiendil.com Tolkiendil.com] (accessed 10 July 2011)</ref>		''Sirion'' is a [[Sindarin]]/[[Noldorin]] name which contains the element ''[[sîr]]''.<ref name=LR>{{LR\|Etymologies}}, p. 385</ref> Depending on the meaning of the second element, the name could either mean "great river" or "land of waters" (''[[-ion]]'' as augmentative suffix or archaic plural genitive suffix).<ref>[http://www.tolkiendil.com/langues/english/i-lam_arth/compound_sindarin_names#S Compound Sindarin Names in Middle-earth] at [http://www.tolkiendil.com Tolkiendil.com] (accessed 10 July 2011)</ref>

−	Its name in [[Khuzdul]] was ''[[Gabilān]]''.<ref>{{WJ\|Maeglin}}, p. 336</ref>	+	Its name in [[Khuzdul]] was ''[[Gabilān]]'', with the element ''[Gabil]]'' - "Great".<ref>{{WJ\|Maeglin}}, p. 336</ref>

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−	'''Sirion''' was a river of [[Middle-earth]] in the [[First Age]], the principal river of [[Beleriand]]. During most of its course it was the border between East and West Beleriand. [[~~Karen Wynn Fonstad~~]] ~~estimates~~ its length ~~as 390 miles in her [[The Atlas of Middle-earth~~\|~~Atlas of Middle-earth]].~~	+	'''Sirion''' was a river of [[Middle-earth]] in the [[First Age]], the principal river of [[Beleriand]]. During most of its course it was the border between East and West Beleriand. From the [[Pass of Sirion]] to its mouth, the river was 130 leagues in length.<ref name="Beleriand">{{S\|Beleriand}}</ref>

	== Source ==		== Source ==
−	The Sirion's source was at [[Eithel Sirion]] on the eastern side of the [[Ered Wethrin]], which lay in between [[Ard-galen]] (later Anfauglith) and [[Mithrim]] and [[Hithlum]]. It was guarded by the tower of Barad Eithel.	+	The Sirion's source was at [[Eithel Sirion]] on the eastern side of the [[Ered Wethrin]], which lay in between [[Ard-galen]] (later Anfauglith) and [[Mithrim]] and [[Hithlum]].<ref name="Map">{{S\|Map}}</ref> It was guarded by the tower of [[Barad Eithel]].<ref name="Beleriand"/>

	== Course ==		== Course ==
−	Sirion flowed southwards along the border of the Ered Wethrin, passing through the Fen of Serech before entering the narrow steep-sided valley between the Ered Wethrin and the [[Echoriath]] named the ~~'''~~Pass of Sirion~~'''~~. Sirion then continued south into Beleriand, with the [[Forest of Brethil]] to the west, and [[Dimbar]] and then [[Doriath]] to the east. After leaving Doriath at Aelin-uial (the [[Fens of Sirion]]) it plunged below ground in the Falls of Sirion at [[Andram]] (the Long Wall), where the ground fell steeply. Three leagues southwards the Sirion exited the underground caves at the ~~'''~~Gates of Sirion~~'''~~. It then flowed southwards through ~~'''~~Nan-Tathren~~'''~~ until it reached the [[Bay of Balar]], part of [[Belegaer]], at the [[Mouths of Sirion]].	+	Sirion flowed southwards along the border of the Ered Wethrin, passing through the [[Fen of Serech]] before entering the narrow steep-sided valley between the Ered Wethrin and the [[Echoriath]] named the Pass of Sirion. Sirion then continued south into Beleriand, with the [[Forest of Brethil]] to the west, and [[Dimbar]] and then [[Doriath]] to the east. After leaving Doriath at Aelin-uial (the [[Fens of Sirion]]) it plunged below ground in the [[Falls of Sirion]] at [[Andram]] (the Long Wall), where the ground fell steeply. Three leagues southwards the Sirion exited the underground caves at the [[Gates of Sirion]]. It then flowed southwards through [[Nan-tathren\|Nan-Tathren]] until it reached the [[Bay of Balar]], part of [[Belegaer]], at the [[Mouths of Sirion]].<ref name="Map"/>

	== Tributaries ==		== Tributaries ==
−	In order from north to south, the principal tributaries of the Sirion were the Rivil, flowing from Dorthonion until it met Sirion in the Fen of Serech; the Mindeb, which had its source in [[Nan Dungortheb]] and the [[Ered Gorgoroth]], the [[Teiglin]], the [[Esgalduin]] of Doriath; the [[Aros]] flowing south from Dorthonion (and also containing the waters of the [[Celon]] from the Hills of [[Himring]] and [[Himlad]]) which met at Aelin-uial, and the [[Narog]], which joined Sirion in Nan-Tathren.	+	In order from north to south, the principal tributaries of the Sirion were the [[Rivil]], flowing from Dorthonion until it met Sirion in the Fen of Serech; the [[Mindeb]], which had its source in [[Nan Dungortheb]] and the [[Ered Gorgoroth]], the [[Teiglin]], the [[Esgalduin]] of Doriath; the [[Aros]] flowing south from Dorthonion and west along the [[Forest of Region]] (and also containing the waters of the [[Celon]] from the Hills of [[Himring]] and [[Himlad]]) which met at Aelin-uial, and the [[Narog]], which joined Sirion in Nan-Tathren.<ref name="Map"/>

	== Crossing Points ==		== Crossing Points ==
−	The main crossing point ~~mentioned in the Silmarillion~~ was the [[Ford of Brithiach]] where the road from Himlad which crossed the Esgalduin at [[Iant Iaur]] crossed Sirion~~, and the Ferries~~ of Doriath.	+	The main crossing point was the [[Ford of Brithiach]] where the road from Himlad which crossed the Esgalduin at [[Iant Iaur]] crossed Sirion.<ref name="Map"/> King [[Thingol]] of Doriath also kept secret ferries in Doriath to cross the river.<ref>{{S\|Turin}}</ref>

	== Settlements ==		== Settlements ==
−	Barad Eithel, at the source of the Sirion in the Ered Wethrin, was a chief fortress of [[Fingolfin]] and his son [[Fingon]], ~~probably guarding a~~ pass into their realm of Mithrim. Further south, in the Pass of Sirion, lay Tol Sirion (see below). After the Coming of Men, the [[Edain]] of the [[House of Haleth]] made their home in the Forest of Brethil, and the [[Sindar]] ruled by [[Thingol]] lay secure within the Girdle of [[Melian]] in their realm of Doriath. At the outflow of Sirion into Belegaer, after the destruction of [[Eglarest]] and [[Brithombar]], the Havens of Sirion were built by [[Círdan]] and his people.	+	Barad Eithel, at the source of the Sirion in the Ered Wethrin, was a chief fortress of [[Fingolfin]] and his son [[Fingon]],<ref name="Beleriand"/> which guarded the pass into their realm of Mithrim. Further south, in the Pass of Sirion, lay Tol Sirion (see below). After the Coming of Men, the [[Edain]] of the [[House of Haleth]] made their home in the Forest of Brethil,<ref>{{S\|West}}</ref> and the [[Sindar]] ruled by [[Thingol]] lay secure within the Girdle of [[Melian]] in their realm of Doriath.<ref>{{S\|Sindar}}</ref> At the outflow of Sirion into Belegaer, after the destruction of [[Eglarest]] and [[Brithombar]], the Havens of Sirion were built by [[Círdan]] and his people.<ref>{{S\|Fifth}}</ref>

	== Islands ==		== Islands ==
−	The most important island in Sirion was Tol Sirion. The original [[Minas Tirith (Beleriand)\|Minas Tirith]] was built here by [[Finrod\|Finrod Felagund]] in the strategic location controlling the Pass of Sirion where it entered Beleriand between the Ered Wethrin and the Echoriath. Shortly after [[Dagor Bragollach]] it was captured by Sauron and the island became known as Tol-in-Gaurhoth.	+	The most important island in Sirion was Tol Sirion.<ref name="Map"/> The original [[Minas Tirith (Beleriand)\|Minas Tirith]] was built here by [[Finrod\|Finrod Felagund]] in the strategic location controlling the Pass of Sirion where it entered Beleriand between the Ered Wethrin and the Echoriath.<ref name="Beleriand"/> Shortly after [[Dagor Bragollach]] it was captured by Sauron and the island became known as [[Tol-in-Gaurhoth]].<ref>{{S\|Fingolfin}}</ref>

	==Etymology==		==Etymology==

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	==Etymology==		==Etymology==

−	''Sirion'' is a [[Sindarin]]/[[Noldorin]] name which contains the element ''[[sîr]]''.<ref name=LR>{{LR\|Etymologies}}, p. 385</ref> Depending on the meaning of the second element, the name could either mean "great river" or "land of waters" (''[[-ion]]'' as augmentative suffix or archaic plural genitive suffix).<ref>[http://www.tolkiendil.com/langues/english/i-lam_arth/compound_sindarin_names#S Compound Sindarin Names in Middle-earth] at [Tolkiendil.com] (accessed 10 July 2011)</ref>	+	''Sirion'' is a [[Sindarin]]/[[Noldorin]] name which contains the element ''[[sîr]]''.<ref name=LR>{{LR\|Etymologies}}, p. 385</ref> Depending on the meaning of the second element, the name could either mean "great river" or "land of waters" (''[[-ion]]'' as augmentative suffix or archaic plural genitive suffix).<ref>[http://www.tolkiendil.com/langues/english/i-lam_arth/compound_sindarin_names#S Compound Sindarin Names in Middle-earth] at [http://www.tolkiendil.com Tolkiendil.com] (accessed 10 July 2011)</ref>

	Its name in [[Khuzdul]] was ''[[Gabilān]]''.<ref>{{WJ\|Maeglin}}, p. 336</ref>		Its name in [[Khuzdul]] was ''[[Gabilān]]''.<ref>{{WJ\|Maeglin}}, p. 336</ref>

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	== Islands ==		== Islands ==
−	The most important island in Sirion was Tol Sirion. The original [[Minas Tirith]] was built here by [[Finrod\|Finrod Felagund]] in the strategic location controlling the Pass of Sirion where it entered Beleriand between the Ered Wethrin and the Echoriath. Shortly after [[Dagor Bragollach]] it was captured by Sauron and the island became known as Tol-in-Gaurhoth.	+	The most important island in Sirion was Tol Sirion. The original [[Minas Tirith (Beleriand)\|Minas Tirith]] was built here by [[Finrod\|Finrod Felagund]] in the strategic location controlling the Pass of Sirion where it entered Beleriand between the Ered Wethrin and the Echoriath. Shortly after [[Dagor Bragollach]] it was captured by Sauron and the island became known as Tol-in-Gaurhoth.

	==Etymology==		==Etymology==
−	~~Sirion means something like "Great River" in [[Elvish]]{{vague}}, composed of the element ''sir-'' plus the nominal suffix ''-ion''. Its name in [[Khuzdul]] was ''Gabilân''~~

		+	''Sirion'' is a [[Sindarin]]/[[Noldorin]] name which contains the element ''[[sîr]]''.<ref name=LR>{{LR\|Etymologies}}, p. 385</ref> Depending on the meaning of the second element, the name could either mean "great river" or "land of waters" (''[[-ion]]'' as augmentative suffix or archaic plural genitive suffix).<ref>[http://www.tolkiendil.com/langues/english/i-lam_arth/compound_sindarin_names#S Compound Sindarin Names in Middle-earth] at [Tolkiendil.com] (accessed 10 July 2011)</ref>
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		+	Its name in [[Khuzdul]] was ''[[Gabilān]]''.<ref>{{WJ\|Maeglin}}, p. 336</ref>
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	== Islands ==		== Islands ==
−	The most important island in Sirion was Tol Sirion. The original [[Minas Tirith]] was built here by [[Finrod Felagund]] in the strategic location controlling the Pass of Sirion where it entered Beleriand between the Ered Wethrin and the Echoriath. Shortly after [[Dagor Bragollach]] it was captured by Sauron and the island became known as Tol-in-Gaurhoth.	+	The most important island in Sirion was Tol Sirion. The original [[Minas Tirith]] was built here by [[Finrod\|Finrod Felagund]] in the strategic location controlling the Pass of Sirion where it entered Beleriand between the Ered Wethrin and the Echoriath. Shortly after [[Dagor Bragollach]] it was captured by Sauron and the island became known as Tol-in-Gaurhoth.

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	Sirion means something like "Great River" in [[Elvish]]{{vague}}, composed of the element ''sir-'' plus the nominal suffix ''-ion''. Its name in [[Khuzdul]] was ''Gabilân''		Sirion means something like "Great River" in [[Elvish]]{{vague}}, composed of the element ''sir-'' plus the nominal suffix ''-ion''. Its name in [[Khuzdul]] was ''Gabilân''

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