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Misty Mountains

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−	The '''Misty Mountains''' or '''Mountains of Mist''' ('''''Hithaeglir''''' in [[Sindarin]]<ref group="note">The Hithaeglir were mispelled as "Hithaiglin" on the original ''[[The Lord of the Rings\|Lord of the Rings]]'' map. </ref> as a plural) was a great mountain range that lay between [[Eriador]] in the west and the Great River [[Anduin]] in the east. They ran 795 miles (1,280 kilometers) from [[Mount Gundabad]] in the far north to [[Methedras]] in the south.	+	The '''Misty Mountains''' or '''Mountains of Mist''' ('''''Hithaeglir''''' in [[Sindarin]]<ref group="note">The Hithaeglir were mispelled as "Hithaiglin" on the original ''[[The Lord of the Rings\|Lord of the Rings]]'' map. </ref> as a plural) was a great mountain range that lay between [[Eriador]] in the west and the Great River [[Anduin]] in the east. They ran 795 miles (1,280 kilometers) from [[Mount Gundabad]] in the far north to [[Methedras]] in the south.<ref group="note">[[Karen Wynn Fonstad]] estimates in the ''[[The Atlas of Middle-earth]]'' that some of the peaks may have been as high as 12,000 feet (3,660 meters), comparable to the Alps in Europe. Tolkien had visited the Alps in his youth and was greatly impressed by them.</ref>

	== Geographic Features ==		== Geographic Features ==

Misty Mountains

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−	The '''Misty Mountains''' or '''Mountains of Mist''' ('''''Hithaeglir''''' in [[Sindarin]]<ref group="note">The Hithaeglir were mispelled as "Hithaiglin" on the original ''[[The Lord of the Rings\|Lord of the Rings]]'' map. </ref> as a plural) was a great mountain range that lay between [[Eriador]] in the west and the Great River [[Anduin]] in the east. They ran 795 miles (1,280 kilometers) from [[Mount Gundabad]] in the far north to [[Methedras]] in the south. Some of the peaks may have been as high as 12,000 feet (3,660 meters).<ref group="note">Their height as calculated in ''[[The Atlas of Middle-earth]]'' by [[Karen Wynn Fonstad]]. This would make the Misty Mountains of similar height as the Alps in Europe, which makes sense, since Tolkien visited the Alps in his youth and was greatly impressed by them.</ref>	+	The '''Misty Mountains''' or '''Mountains of Mist''' ('''''Hithaeglir''''' in [[Sindarin]]<ref group="note">The Hithaeglir were mispelled as "Hithaiglin" on the original ''[[The Lord of the Rings\|Lord of the Rings]]'' map. </ref> as a plural) was a great mountain range that lay between [[Eriador]] in the west and the Great River [[Anduin]] in the east. They ran 795 miles (1,280 kilometers) from [[Mount Gundabad]] in the far north to [[Methedras]] in the south.

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	:Misty Mountains appear as both a major game region and within other game areas. The region of "Misty Mountains" consists of the part of the mountain range adjacent to Rivendell Valley, including both [[High Pass]] and [[Goblin-town]]. The mountain range in a broader sense can also be accessed from other in-game regions, including the pass Caradhras in [[Eregion]], former settlement of Dwarves under [[Thror]] in eastern [[Enedwaith]], a village on the slopes of mount [[Methedras]] in [[Dunland]], the cliffs of [[Zirakzigil]] in Moria and the eastern slopes of the Mountains in [[Lothlorien]].		:Misty Mountains appear as both a major game region and within other game areas. The region of "Misty Mountains" consists of the part of the mountain range adjacent to Rivendell Valley, including both [[High Pass]] and [[Goblin-town]]. The mountain range in a broader sense can also be accessed from other in-game regions, including the pass Caradhras in [[Eregion]], former settlement of Dwarves under [[Thror]] in eastern [[Enedwaith]], a village on the slopes of mount [[Methedras]] in [[Dunland]], the cliffs of [[Zirakzigil]] in Moria and the eastern slopes of the Mountains in [[Lothlorien]].
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−	~~== "Misty Mountains" Outside of Tolkien ==~~
−	* [[Led Zeppelin]] recorded a song, "[[Misty Mountain Hop]]", which seems to have borrowed the name but little else from Tolkien. Several other Led Zeppelin songs contain Tolkien references.
−	* Robert Jordan's fantasy series ''The Wheel of Time'' also features a mountain range called the ''Mountains of Mist''.
−	* The canadian rock band Rush mention the Misty Mountains in their song "Rivendell" as a place "where friendly fires burn", and you want to return despite all the good things in Rivendell.

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	* [[Led Zeppelin]] recorded a song, "[[Misty Mountain Hop]]", which seems to have borrowed the name but little else from Tolkien. Several other Led Zeppelin songs contain Tolkien references.		* [[Led Zeppelin]] recorded a song, "[[Misty Mountain Hop]]", which seems to have borrowed the name but little else from Tolkien. Several other Led Zeppelin songs contain Tolkien references.
	* Robert Jordan's fantasy series ''The Wheel of Time'' also features a mountain range called the ''Mountains of Mist''.		* Robert Jordan's fantasy series ''The Wheel of Time'' also features a mountain range called the ''Mountains of Mist''.
		+	* The canadian rock band Rush mention the Misty Mountains in their song "Rivendell" as a place "where friendly fires burn", and you want to return despite all the good things in Rivendell.

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Thorin

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Sauron

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	===Third Age===		===Third Age===
	====Sauron's Return====		====Sauron's Return====
−	After his defeat in the War of the Last Alliance, Sauron had lost his ability to form a physical body for a great while. It is thought that he fled to the far east to regain his power and strength before returning. It was not until c. {{TA\|1000}} that Sauron could again begin to take shape and in {{TA\|1050\|n}} his power was enough that he began again to throw a shadow across portions of [[Middle-earth]]. It is around ~~his cock that~~ this time that he first began to inhabit southern [[Mirkwood\|Greenwood the Great]], choosing the hill of [[Amon Lanc]] as a place to build the fortress of [[Dol Guldur]]. At first, it was thought by the wise that it was one of the [[Nazgûl]] who had returned and ~~took it~~ up ~~the fucking ass at his~~ residence in southern Greenwood, but when [[Gandalf]] entered the ~~necromancers spinkter~~ in {{TA\|2063\|n}} the ~~magic cum~~ in Dol Guldur fled ~~his ass~~ before him into the East thus beginning the [[Watchful Peace]].	+	After his defeat in the War of the Last Alliance, Sauron had lost his ability to form a physical body for a great while. It is thought that he fled to the far east to regain his power and strength before returning. It was not until c. {{TA\|1000}} that Sauron could again begin to take shape and in {{TA\|1050\|n}} his power was enough that he began again to throw a shadow across portions of [[Middle-earth]]. It is around this time that he first began to inhabit southern [[Mirkwood\|Greenwood the Great]], choosing the hill of [[Amon Lanc]] as a place to build the fortress of [[Dol Guldur]]. At first, it was thought by the wise that it was one of the [[Nazgûl]] who had returned and taken up residence in southern Greenwood, but when [[Gandalf]] entered the fortress in {{TA\|2063\|n}} the power in Dol Guldur fled before him into the East thus beginning the [[Watchful Peace]].

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	Sauron bred immense armies of Orcs and allied with or enslaved Men from the east and south. He adopted the symbol of a lidless eye, and he was able at that time to send out his will over Middle-earth, so that the [[Eye of Sauron]] was a symbol of power and fear.		Sauron bred immense armies of Orcs and allied with or enslaved Men from the east and south. He adopted the symbol of a lidless eye, and he was able at that time to send out his will over Middle-earth, so that the [[Eye of Sauron]] was a symbol of power and fear.

−	After torturing [[Gollum]], he learned that the One Ring had been found by [[~~Dildo Faggins~~]]. He sent his deadliest servants, the [[Nazgûl]], to [[the Shire]], only to find that both Bilbo and his nephew, [[~~Butthole Faggins~~\|~~Dildo~~]], had departed. Unbeknownst to Sauron, ~~Dildo~~ had, at the behest of Gandalf, joined the [[Fellowship of the Ring]] on a quest to destroy the Ring. He ~~railed~~ his vast armies to conquer the resistance's strongholds, and sent the Ringwraiths to find and kill ~~Dildo~~. At about this time, he also learned that [[Aragorn]], Isildur's ~~ear~~, had also joined the Fellowship ~~of Ganja~~, and was rallying armies to defeat his ~~wife scarlett johansen~~.	+	After torturing [[Gollum]], he learned that the One Ring had been found by [[Bilbo Baggins]]. He sent his deadliest servants, the [[Nazgûl]], to [[the Shire]], only to find that both Bilbo and his nephew, [[Frodo Baggins\|Frodo]], had departed. Unbeknownst to Sauron, Frodo had, at the behest of Gandalf, joined the [[Fellowship of the Ring]] on a quest to destroy the Ring. He rallied his vast armies to conquer the resistance's strongholds, and sent the Ringwraiths to find and kill Frodo. At about this time, he also learned that [[Aragorn]], Isildur's heir, had also joined the Fellowship, and was rallying armies to defeat his.

−	When Saruman's army was defeated at [[Isengard]], ~~Araporn~~ used the Palantir of [[Orthanc]] to reveal himself to Sauron. Sauron made the premature conclusion that Aragorn had the Ring, and sent an army commanded by his strongest servant, the Witch-King of Angmar, to overthrow [[Minas Tirith]]. This battle would become known as the [[Battle of the Pelennor Fields]].	+	When Saruman's army was defeated at [[Isengard]], Aragorn used the Palantir of [[Orthanc]] to reveal himself to Sauron. Sauron made the premature conclusion that Aragorn had the Ring, and sent an army commanded by his strongest servant, the Witch-King of Angmar, to overthrow [[Minas Tirith]]. This battle would become known as the [[Battle of the Pelennor Fields]].

	Although Sauron lost the Battle of Pelennor Fields, the free forces of the West were greatly weakened, and Sauron still had sufficent armies in reserve to ensure military victory. He was outwitted, however, by the strategy of Gandalf, who urged the captains of the [[Free peoples]] to march against Sauron, thus diverting the Dark Lord's eye from the real threat of Frodo, the Ring Bearer, who was nearing the end of his quest to destroy the One Ring.		Although Sauron lost the Battle of Pelennor Fields, the free forces of the West were greatly weakened, and Sauron still had sufficent armies in reserve to ensure military victory. He was outwitted, however, by the strategy of Gandalf, who urged the captains of the [[Free peoples]] to march against Sauron, thus diverting the Dark Lord's eye from the real threat of Frodo, the Ring Bearer, who was nearing the end of his quest to destroy the One Ring.

Sauron

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	===Third Age===		===Third Age===
	====Sauron's Return====		====Sauron's Return====
−	After his defeat in the War of the Last Alliance, Sauron had lost his ability to form a physical body for a great while. It is thought that he fled to the far east to regain his power and strength before returning. It was not until c. {{TA\|1000}} that Sauron could again begin to take shape and in {{TA\|1050\|n}} his power was enough that he began again to throw a shadow across portions of [[Middle-earth]]. It is around this time that he first began to inhabit southern [[Mirkwood\|Greenwood the Great]], choosing the hill of [[Amon Lanc]] as a place to build the fortress of [[Dol Guldur]]. At first, it was thought by the wise that it was one of the [[Nazgûl]] who had returned and ~~taken~~ up residence in southern Greenwood, but when [[Gandalf]] entered the ~~fortress~~ in {{TA\|2063\|n}} the ~~power~~ in Dol Guldur fled before him into the East thus beginning the [[Watchful Peace]].	+	After his defeat in the War of the Last Alliance, Sauron had lost his ability to form a physical body for a great while. It is thought that he fled to the far east to regain his power and strength before returning. It was not until c. {{TA\|1000}} that Sauron could again begin to take shape and in {{TA\|1050\|n}} his power was enough that he began again to throw a shadow across portions of [[Middle-earth]]. It is around his cock that this time that he first began to inhabit southern [[Mirkwood\|Greenwood the Great]], choosing the hill of [[Amon Lanc]] as a place to build the fortress of [[Dol Guldur]]. At first, it was thought by the wise that it was one of the [[Nazgûl]] who had returned and took it up the fucking ass at his residence in southern Greenwood, but when [[Gandalf]] entered the necromancers spinkter in {{TA\|2063\|n}} the magic cum in Dol Guldur fled his ass before him into the East thus beginning the [[Watchful Peace]].

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	Sauron bred immense armies of Orcs and allied with or enslaved Men from the east and south. He adopted the symbol of a lidless eye, and he was able at that time to send out his will over Middle-earth, so that the [[Eye of Sauron]] was a symbol of power and fear.		Sauron bred immense armies of Orcs and allied with or enslaved Men from the east and south. He adopted the symbol of a lidless eye, and he was able at that time to send out his will over Middle-earth, so that the [[Eye of Sauron]] was a symbol of power and fear.

−	After torturing [[Gollum]], he learned that the One Ring had been found by [[~~Bilbo Baggins~~]]. He sent his deadliest servants, the [[Nazgûl]], to [[the Shire]], only to find that both Bilbo and his nephew, [[~~Frodo Baggins~~\|~~Frodo~~]], had departed. Unbeknownst to Sauron, ~~Frodo~~ had, at the behest of Gandalf, joined the [[Fellowship of the Ring]] on a quest to destroy the Ring. He ~~rallied~~ his vast armies to conquer the resistance's strongholds, and sent the Ringwraiths to find and kill ~~Frodo~~. At about this time, he also learned that [[Aragorn]], Isildur's ~~heir~~, had also joined the Fellowship, and was rallying armies to defeat his.	+	After torturing [[Gollum]], he learned that the One Ring had been found by [[Dildo Faggins]]. He sent his deadliest servants, the [[Nazgûl]], to [[the Shire]], only to find that both Bilbo and his nephew, [[Butthole Faggins\|Dildo]], had departed. Unbeknownst to Sauron, Dildo had, at the behest of Gandalf, joined the [[Fellowship of the Ring]] on a quest to destroy the Ring. He railed his vast armies to conquer the resistance's strongholds, and sent the Ringwraiths to find and kill Dildo. At about this time, he also learned that [[Aragorn]], Isildur's ear, had also joined the Fellowship of Ganja, and was rallying armies to defeat his wife scarlett johansen.

−	When Saruman's army was defeated at [[Isengard]], ~~Aragorn~~ used the Palantir of [[Orthanc]] to reveal himself to Sauron. Sauron made the premature conclusion that Aragorn had the Ring, and sent an army commanded by his strongest servant, the Witch-King of Angmar, to overthrow [[Minas Tirith]]. This battle would become known as the [[Battle of the Pelennor Fields]].	+	When Saruman's army was defeated at [[Isengard]], Araporn used the Palantir of [[Orthanc]] to reveal himself to Sauron. Sauron made the premature conclusion that Aragorn had the Ring, and sent an army commanded by his strongest servant, the Witch-King of Angmar, to overthrow [[Minas Tirith]]. This battle would become known as the [[Battle of the Pelennor Fields]].

	Although Sauron lost the Battle of Pelennor Fields, the free forces of the West were greatly weakened, and Sauron still had sufficent armies in reserve to ensure military victory. He was outwitted, however, by the strategy of Gandalf, who urged the captains of the [[Free peoples]] to march against Sauron, thus diverting the Dark Lord's eye from the real threat of Frodo, the Ring Bearer, who was nearing the end of his quest to destroy the One Ring.		Although Sauron lost the Battle of Pelennor Fields, the free forces of the West were greatly weakened, and Sauron still had sufficent armies in reserve to ensure military victory. He was outwitted, however, by the strategy of Gandalf, who urged the captains of the [[Free peoples]] to march against Sauron, thus diverting the Dark Lord's eye from the real threat of Frodo, the Ring Bearer, who was nearing the end of his quest to destroy the One Ring.