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http://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChangesLinked/Talk:Main_Page&feed=atom&target=Talk%3AMain_Page Tolkien Gateway - Changes related to "Talk:Main Page" [en] 2013-06-19T16:13:52Z Related changes MediaWiki 1.17.0 http://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ederchil&diff=230965&oldid=prev User talk:Ederchil 2013-06-16T21:09:00Z

<p><span class="autocomment">Gondorian cavalry: </span> </p> <table style="background-color: white; color:black;"> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <tr valign='top'> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">Revision as of 21:09, 16 June 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 140:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 140:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>Is it irrelevant? There is precious little in Tolkien's writings that gives any detail on Gondorian cavalry, so any addition ought to be welcome.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>Is it irrelevant? There is precious little in Tolkien's writings that gives any detail on Gondorian cavalry, so any addition ought to be welcome.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>BTW, with reference to other assertions on the page, there is only one mention of plate armour in the whole of LOTR - that is Imrahil's vambrace (forearm protection). All representation of other plate armour is entirely unsupported by Tolkien's work.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>BTW, with reference to other assertions on the page, there is only one mention of plate armour in the whole of LOTR - that is Imrahil's vambrace (forearm protection). All representation of other plate armour is entirely unsupported by Tolkien's work. <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">{{unignedIP|86.8.59.24}}</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div> </div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">:It starts with "However". The article needs work, but adding stuff starting with "however, also this" isn't the way to do it. It would be much better, not just for accuracy, but also for structure, to rewrite the entire section incorporating all available info. The wiki phrase for this is "Repair, don't respond". Because with "however", you respond to the previous section. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 21:09, 16 June 2013 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Ederchil http://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ederchil&diff=230962&oldid=prev User talk:Ederchil 2013-06-16T20:56:14Z

<p><span class="autocomment">Gondorian cavalry: </span> </p> <table style="background-color: white; color:black;"> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <tr valign='top'> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">Revision as of 20:56, 16 June 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan='4' align='center' class='diff-multi'>(One intermediate revision by one user not shown)</td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 129:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 129:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>:I raised other points as well. Check your talk page again. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 19:59, 2 April 2013 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>:I raised other points as well. Check your talk page again. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 19:59, 2 April 2013 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">== Gondorian cavalry ==</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">What exactly is wrong with the following addition to the scanty section on the Cavalry of Gondor, that you deleted?</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">"However, Imrahil was not the only commander of Gondorian cavalry, as at the Battle of the Pelennor Field the horsemen were led not only by Imrahil but also by Hurin the Tall, Warden of the Keys, Forlong of Lossarnach and Hirluin of the Green Hills.<refThe Return of the King, The Battle of the Pelennor Fields, p. 121</ref  The kings of Gondor evidently maintained a force of knights, as Earnur had an escort of knights when he went to answer the challenge to combat issued by the Lord of Morgul.<refThe Return of the King, Appendix A, p. 332</ref"</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Is it inaccurate? Please check, you will find that it isn't.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Is it irrelevant? There is precious little in Tolkien's writings that gives any detail on Gondorian cavalry, so any addition ought to be welcome.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">BTW, with reference to other assertions on the page, there is only one mention of plate armour in the whole of LOTR - that is Imrahil's vambrace (forearm protection). All representation of other plate armour is entirely unsupported by Tolkien's work.</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

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<p><span class="autocomment">Coming to Middle-earth: </span> </p> <table style="background-color: white; color:black;"> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <tr valign='top'> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">Revision as of 18:06, 13 June 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 26:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 26:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>Olórin submitted to the will of Manwë, and departed Valinor to [[Mithlond]] in the year {{TA|1000}}.<ref name="Istari"/> He arrived after the others, [[Curumo]], [[Aiwendil]], [[Pallando]], and [[Alatar]], at about the same time the [[Necromancer]] appeared in [[Mirkwood]].</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>Olórin submitted to the will of Manwë, and departed Valinor to [[Mithlond]] in the year {{TA|1000}}.<ref name="Istari"/> He arrived after the others, [[Curumo]], [[Aiwendil]], [[Pallando]], and [[Alatar]], at about the same time the [[Necromancer]] appeared in [[Mirkwood]].</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>===Coming to Middle-earth===</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>===Coming to Middle-earth===</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">At Mithlond he was welcomed by [[Glorfindel]]</del>, <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">his friend from Valinor, sent earlier on a similar mission, and [[Círdan]] </del>the <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">shipwright</del>, <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">who possessed [[Narya]], one of </del>the <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[[Three Rings|Three Elven Rings]] </del>of <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">power</del>.  <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Círdan divined </del>in <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Olórin a sense of strength </del>and <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">power despite his appearance </del>as a <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">bent </del>and <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">aged old man. Círdan gave Narya to Olórin, with a prediction of his future struggles with evil, and a promise that it would support and aid him in his labors</del>.  <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Then Círdan said "''But as for me, my heart is with the [[Belegaer|Sea]], and I will dwell by the grey shores until the last ship sails.  I will await you.''"<ref name="ThirdAge">{{App|B2}}</ref></del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Olórin </ins>, <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">like </ins>the <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">other Wizards</ins>, <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">took </ins>the <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">shape </ins>of <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">an old man</ins>.  <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">He was robed </ins>in <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">gray </ins>and <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">went about </ins>as a <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">wanderer </ins>and <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">counselor</ins>.   </div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>[[<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">File:John Howe - Gandalf the Grey.jpg|thumb|''Gandalf the Grey'' by </del>[[<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">John Howe</del>]]]]<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Gandalf</del>, <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">like the other Wizards, took </del>the <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">shape </del>of <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">an old man</del>.  <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">He was robed </del>in <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">gray </del>and <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">went about </del>as a <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">wanderer </del>and <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">counselor</del>.   </div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">At Mithlond he was welcomed by </ins>[[<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Glorfindel]], his friend from Valinor, sent earlier on a similar mission, and </ins>[[<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Círdan</ins>]] <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">the shipwright, who possessed [[Narya</ins>]], <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">one of </ins>the <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[[Three Rings|Three Elven Rings]] </ins>of <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">power</ins>.  <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Círdan divined </ins>in <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Olórin a sense of strength </ins>and <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">power despite his appearance </ins>as a <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">bent </ins>and <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">aged old man. Círdan gave Narya to Olórin, with a prediction of his future struggles with evil, and a promise that it would support and aid him in his labors</ins>.  <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Then Círdan said "''But as for me, my heart is with the [[Belegaer|Sea]], and I will dwell by the grey shores until the last ship sails.  I will await you.''"<ref name="ThirdAge">{{App|B2}}</ref></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[File:John Howe - Gandalf the Grey.jpg|thumb|''Gandalf the Grey'' by [[John Howe]]]]</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>Olórin then began his sojourn in Middle-earth. Unlike Saruman, Gandalf did not go east<ref>"To the East I go not"</ref> and did not take up a single permanent residence. Gandalf apparently restricted his activities to the [[Westlands]] of Middle-earth, where the remnants of the [[Dúnedain]] and the [[Eldar]] remained to oppose Sauron. He was known by many names during the long years he remained in Middle-earth: Elves named him ''[[Gandalf/Names#Mithrandir|Mithrandir]]'', the Grey Pilgrim, while the men of [[Arnor]] named him Gandalf, which became his most common name. He was also known as ''[[Gandalf/Names#Incánus|Incánus]]'' (in the south), and ''[[Gandalf/Names#Tharkûn|Tharkûn]]'' to the [[Dwarves]].<ref name="Istari"/></div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>Olórin then began his sojourn in Middle-earth. Unlike Saruman, Gandalf did not go east<ref>"To the East I go not"</ref> and did not take up a single permanent residence. Gandalf apparently restricted his activities to the [[Westlands]] of Middle-earth, where the remnants of the [[Dúnedain]] and the [[Eldar]] remained to oppose Sauron. He was known by many names during the long years he remained in Middle-earth: Elves named him ''[[Gandalf/Names#Mithrandir|Mithrandir]]'', the Grey Pilgrim, while the men of [[Arnor]] named him Gandalf, which became his most common name. He was also known as ''[[Gandalf/Names#Incánus|Incánus]]'' (in the south), and ''[[Gandalf/Names#Tharkûn|Tharkûn]]'' to the [[Dwarves]].<ref name="Istari"/></div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td></tr> </table>

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