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Talk:Bilbo Baggins

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Bilbo's resistance to corruption

Did Tolkien ever explain what about Bilbo was so special that he could resist the power of the Ring for so many years? --Ebakunin 13:40, 24 April 2006 (EDT)

Quite a few characters throughout LotR stated that hobbits in general are very resistant to the Dark Powers. In an early draft of the Fellowship, Boromir asks Frodo if maybe the power one yields while wearing the ring only reflects their own minds. This could explain why Isildur, Smeagol/Gollum, Bilbo, etc. disappear, hiding from their enemies, instead of imbuing them with superhuman strength. That conversation betweem Boromir and Frodo is The History of Middle Earth, the exact one escapes me, sorry.--Quidon88 14:20, 8 February 2007 (EST)

Frodo fell under the Ring's sway quicker primarily because (1) The power of Sauron had grown greater, (2) He came near to and entered the Land of the Dark Lord, and (3) He was mentally and physically exhausted. The Ring did not work so strongly on him or Bilbo during those years in Hobbiton. Bilbo received it in an honorable way (as opposed to Sméagol's murder), he kept it far from the reach of the Dark Lord, and he did not comprehend its power. I hope that explains it thoroughly enough. I believe I could find texts to back up these statements, if you wish. --Narfil Palùrfalas 17:45, 8 February 2007 (EST)
Among the physical stresses was the injury by the poisoned blade of the Witch-king (touching it made Glorfindel shudder) and the bite by Shelob along the way. That he managed to resist the lure of the ring until the very end is actually quite remarkable-- as stated above he was bearing the ring INSIDE Mordor within visible range of Sauron and his minions. Remember, part of Sauron existed within the ring and it had a 'life of its own'-- as such there was not much it could do within the Shire.-- Cheers. Glorfindel Mk. II 14:41, 19 October 2007 (EDT)

The forthcoming The Hobbit Motion Picture

Perhaps it would be clever to try and improve this article, now that PJ's plans for the films are moving forth quickly and people in general will be more and more curious about Bilbo. How about making it into an improvement drive article? --Morgan 20:04, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Main image

I really liked that we changed the main pic of Glaurung to Tolkien's own vision of the dragon. Perhaps we should do the same with the Bilbo article? It's a little sad, tough, that his illustrations of Bilbo weren't that good, at least not in my opinion. What do you think? I'll upload two suggestions, so we can try ("Show preview"). In any case, I think we shouldn't use Ian Holm as the main picture of the article. --Morgan 20:04, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

I agree that the main picture should first be something Tolkien drew himself, then something drawn by an artist and lastly a representation from an adaptation. --Pinkkeith 20:08, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Here is what I did: User:Morgan/Sandbox3, to make everyone easily see my suggestion (although we might be able to find pictures of better quality than the ones I was able to track). --Morgan 20:23, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
To be honest, I think it's a bit plain. Could we use the colourised version instead? --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 12:31, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Gandalf and Radagast Section

I'm not sure what the story of Gandalf and Radagast's meeting has to do with Bilbo Baggins? Could this 4 April 2011 addition be explained?

Gamling 04:18, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Gamling, you can just remove such strange additions at sight (press "undo revision"). --Morgan 07:53, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Final Journey

Bilbo and Frodo did not go to Valinor did they? As mortals they where not permitted to enter the undying lands, it is my understanding that they went instead to Tol Eressëa 20:52, 28 January 2012 (UTC)