Talk:Elves

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Revision as of 16:40, 2 April 2007 by Narfil Palùrfalas (talk | contribs) (Let's go ahead and do some splitting)

I am considering whether or not to create Elf-lords as a seperate category. The questions I have are

  1. Who exactly qualifies as an elf-lord? Those of the House of Finwë and the House of Thingol or just any important elf?
  2. Is it worth its own article?

--Narfil Palùrfalas 21:17, 24 June 2006 (EDT)

Work on this Article

I notice that this page is the most popular article on the wiki. It seems to be lacking some organization or something. It contains a lot of information, but needs some improvement. I was wondering if there were any precise suggestions for the article. --Narfil Palùrfalas 13:10, 18 February 2007 (EST)

I also note that the Middle-earth and Witch-king of Angmar articles, the second and fourth most popular respectively, also need serious work. I think though that Morgoth, Gandalf, and J.R.R. Tolkien, the other most popular articles, will suffice. --Narfil Palùrfalas 13:13, 18 February 2007 (EST)

Outline and Sub-articles

What do you guys think needs to be done to this article? If we plan on changing it a lot maybe we should consider creating an outline first. I also think it's apparent the article is going to be lengthy, what about creating sub-articles such as "Elves/History", we could have a link to the history article within the Elves article and underneath the link we could have a synopsis of the article. Maybe it's just me but I have a hard time taking away information from a really long article. --Hyarion 20:20, 28 February 2007 (EST)

That sounds excellent. I've never heard of a wiki doing that before (in my limited experience), but I think it would work great. The one thing is that the title bar would be Elves/History (which may not be a bad thing, I don't know), and the template for changing that doesn't work on the new default skin. I was intending to suggest an article titled History of the Elves or something, but your suggestion appeals as well. --Narfil Palùrfalas 21:52, 28 February 2007 (EST)
That was exactly my other thought, that way it will be easier to link to it from other articles as well and it will look nicer. We actually already had the article created for a few sections so I've added them, I'll work on the others tonight. --Hyarion 23:19, 28 February 2007 (EST)
Looking back at Forum:TG Advent: 30 Improved pages for the New Year, I came back to this article. You know, a lot of this article is dedicated to elven characteristics. Should this article be based around this, or should the wealth of information be moved to a subarticle? Then again, if we move away both the characteristics and the history, we might not have much of an article. . . What do you(pl.) think? At any rate, this still needs work, and we can't let it drop from the list of priorities until it's fixed. --Narfil Palùrfalas 07:53, 30 March 2007 (EDT)
I think you're right, maybe we can create another article for characteristics, and trim down the sections on this page so we can focus on the more important aspects. --Hyarion 14:30, 30 March 2007 (EDT)
Does anyone else have an opinion on this? We really need to get whatever we're going to do done soon. It's bad business for the most popular article to be one of the biggest messes in the wiki (if not the biggest). --Narfil Palùrfalas 14:45, 1 April 2007 (EDT)
Let's go ahead and do it. Should we split away Elvish History, or keep it as it is, with links to sections from Elvish History? At any rate, I suggest we keep Elvish Characteristics in this page, and move Life and Customs to. . . say. . . Life and Customs of the Eldar, or something suitable. --Narfil Palùrfalas 12:40, 2 April 2007 (EDT)