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Just a note: this wiki has Orodreth as Gil-galad's father, as does Wikipedia, and unlike the Encyclopedia of Arda. But why does it insist on having two Glorfindels? (Wikipedia has one.) [[User:202.175.228.179|202.175.228.179]] 05:32, 12 August 2006 (EDT)
Just a note: this wiki has Orodreth as Gil-galad's father, as does Wikipedia, and unlike the Encyclopedia of Arda. But why does it insist on having two Glorfindels? (Wikipedia has one.) [[User:202.175.228.179|202.175.228.179]] 05:32, 12 August 2006 (EDT)


:As I suppose you know, based on a writing in [[The Peoples of Middle-earth]], many if not most Tolkienists assume that the two Glorfindels were actually one.  But because the controversy still remains (see [[Talk:Glorfindel of Rivendell]]), Tolkien Gateway has accepted placing them differently.  I personally favor putting them into one article.  Someday, I suppose, when we have more Gatekeepers, we shall be placing it up to a vote.  By the way, Orodreth was Gil-galad's father according to Tolkien's later writings, such as the [[Shibboleth of Fëanor]], which were ignored by [[Christopher Tolkien]] in the [[Silmarillion]].  This, again, is controversial because many believe that Tolkien's later works were not his final thoughts, were not meant to be published, and/or Tolkien was in decline at that time.  Those are the most common arguments, at least.  I hope that lays it out well. --[[User:Narfil Palùrfalas|Narfil Palùrfalas]] 08:58, 12 August 2006 (EDT)
:As I suppose you know, based on a writing in [[The Peoples of Middle-earth]], many if not most Tolkienists assume that the two Glorfindels were actually one.  But because the controversy still remains (see {{Redlink|[[Talk:Glorfindel of Rivendell]]}}), Tolkien Gateway has accepted placing them differently.  I personally favor putting them into one article.  Someday, I suppose, when we have more Gatekeepers, we shall be placing it up to a vote.  By the way, Orodreth was Gil-galad's father according to Tolkien's later writings, such as the [[Shibboleth of Fëanor]], which were ignored by [[Christopher Tolkien]] in ''[[The Silmarillion]]''.  This, again, is controversial because many believe that Tolkien's later works were not his final thoughts, were not meant to be published, and/or Tolkien was in decline at that time.  Those are the most common arguments, at least.  I hope that lays it out well. --[[User:Narfil Palùrfalas|Narfil Palùrfalas]] 08:58, 12 August 2006 (EDT)




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Would it be a good idea that in this article (currently disambig) the probability and evidence of them being one and the same is discussed? --[[User:Narfil Palùrfalas|Narfil Palùrfalas]] 21:21, 29 October 2006 (EST)
Would it be a good idea that in this article (currently disambig) the probability and evidence of them being one and the same is discussed? --[[User:Narfil Palùrfalas|Narfil Palùrfalas]] 21:21, 29 October 2006 (EST)
:No-one has answered, so I'm going to renew the question, presuming it has been missed and/or forgotten. --[[User:Narfil Palùrfalas|Narfil Palùrfalas]] 17:22, 19 December 2006 (EST)
Narfil, I agree that the prbability and evidence of them being one should be discussed in this article also. So I think you should copy paste the argument from the Glorfindel(Rivendell) article into this one.--[[User:Legolas|Legolas]] 01:53, 20 December 2006 (EST)
== References ==
This is a strong article, with good illustrations, and it could be a candidate for FA status.  It needs some references, however, to reasonably be nominated.  Anyone like to step up to that job?--[[User:Theoden1|Theoden1]] 16:08, 31 July 2008 (EDT)

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Just a note: this wiki has Orodreth as Gil-galad's father, as does Wikipedia, and unlike the Encyclopedia of Arda. But why does it insist on having two Glorfindels? (Wikipedia has one.) 202.175.228.179 05:32, 12 August 2006 (EDT)

As I suppose you know, based on a writing in The Peoples of Middle-earth, many if not most Tolkienists assume that the two Glorfindels were actually one. But because the controversy still remains (see Talk:Glorfindel of Rivendell[former link]), Tolkien Gateway has accepted placing them differently. I personally favor putting them into one article. Someday, I suppose, when we have more Gatekeepers, we shall be placing it up to a vote. By the way, Orodreth was Gil-galad's father according to Tolkien's later writings, such as the Shibboleth of Fëanor, which were ignored by Christopher Tolkien in The Silmarillion. This, again, is controversial because many believe that Tolkien's later works were not his final thoughts, were not meant to be published, and/or Tolkien was in decline at that time. Those are the most common arguments, at least. I hope that lays it out well. --Narfil Palùrfalas 08:58, 12 August 2006 (EDT)



Would it be a good idea that in this article (currently disambig) the probability and evidence of them being one and the same is discussed? --Narfil Palùrfalas 21:21, 29 October 2006 (EST)

No-one has answered, so I'm going to renew the question, presuming it has been missed and/or forgotten. --Narfil Palùrfalas 17:22, 19 December 2006 (EST)

Narfil, I agree that the prbability and evidence of them being one should be discussed in this article also. So I think you should copy paste the argument from the Glorfindel(Rivendell) article into this one.--Legolas 01:53, 20 December 2006 (EST)


References

This is a strong article, with good illustrations, and it could be a candidate for FA status. It needs some references, however, to reasonably be nominated. Anyone like to step up to that job?--Theoden1 16:08, 31 July 2008 (EDT)