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I recently found in The History of Middle-earth a definite proof (unless Tolkien changed his mind late in life) that the two Glorfindels are actually one. It was a library book that I recently returned, so I can't quote the exact words, but there was a whole chapter on it by Tolkien, and the point was this: "Elven names were almost sacred, and it would be ridiculous to think that a later elf took the name of an earlier great hero". I'm afraid I shall have to borrow it again for an exact quote (I think it was in The Peoples of Middle-earth), but at any rate, if you have the Histories, you will find that it is in there. I suggest the two articles merge. --Narfil Palùrfalas 16:05, 10 May 2006 (EDT)

Great find Narfil, though I do remember there being a debate on multiple Legolas' as well. If you can go into your Preferences and enable users to send you email I can assist you in finding the quote. --Hyarion 16:11, 10 May 2006 (EDT)
It's, indeed, in Vol. XII of The History of Middle-earth: The Peoples of Middle-earth, Part Two: 'Late writings', XIII: 'Last Writings. Of Glorfindel, Cirdan, and other matters'. As this touches upon the matter of canonicity, I think it's better to leave these two articles seperate. Perhaps the paragraph on Gl. of R. being the one and the same as Gl. of G. should be expanded (in this article; in the other onea link to here)? --Earendilyon 16:25, 10 May 2006 (EDT)
Hmm, good question. Maybe the debate between the two would be better in simply Glorfindel? But as this article is the primary one then I would be fine with putting the debate here as well. --Hyarion 16:30, 10 May 2006 (EDT)
Well, it is rather annoying to have to divide articles between the two Glorfindels. I think they should be combined, and any objections to this combination listed at the bottom or the top introductory paragraph. --Narfil Palùrfalas 16:56, 10 May 2006 (EDT)
I think it's a good idea to place the stuff on the two Glorfindels in the disambig article. I have objections to having the two articles fused to one, as the essay on the subject is in posthumously published writings of Tolkien. We don't know whether or not this were indeed Tolkien's final thoughts on the subject, nor whether or not he even would have wanted the essay to be published. --Earendilyon 02:19, 11 May 2006 (EDT)