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Although it's not easy to check right now if "East Gate" is a referred name in the canon, Robert Foster has only "Great Gates". There is no entry for "East Gate" at all in his book. Perhaps the article should be moved to its canon name. Sage 13:11, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Foster is pretty reliable when to comes to attested names, so I trust him on that. If this becomes Great Gates, a youmay on Great Gate may be handy. -- Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 13:22, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Sorry to bring this up, but Appendix B specifically refers to the "East-gate of Moria". Also, Appendix A says neither "Great Gate" or "East-gate", but just "Gate". --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 14:17, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] East-gate Again

I'm sorry I have to disagree quite vehemently with the above. In the process of editing other articles today I noticed that the the vast majority of links are to "East-gate" or "East-gate of Moria"; I was about the to re-link the lot but I - wisely - decided to revisit this question. I have a couple of quotes:

"How long is that going to take us?" asked Frodo.
"I cannot say," answered Gandalf. "It depends on many chances. But going straight, without mishap or losing our way, we shall take three or four marches, I expect. It cannot be less than forty miles from West-door to East-gate in a direct line, and the road may wind much."

J.R.R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings, The Fellowship of the Ring, "A Journey in the Dark"
"2799 - Battle of Nanduhirion before the East-gate of Moria. Dáin Ironfoot returns to the Iron Hills. Thráin II and his son Thorin wander westwards. They settle in the South of Ered Luin beyond the Shire (2802).
J.R.R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings, Appendix B, "The Third Age"

Within The Lord of the Rings I can find two references to the "East-gate" and three to "Great Gates"; hardly conclusive. At the very least, the assertion that Tolkien never mentioned the East-gate is a load of rubbish. --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 12:44, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Straight from the horse's mouth, this is why we shouldn't depend on secondary material. -- KingAragorn  talk  contribs  edits  email  17:49, 26 October 2010 (UTC)