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==The inspiration stuff==
==The inspiration stuff==
While I do not doubt that this mythology influenced Tolkien, and I even saw on a German wiki where another spelling for Yngvi was Ingwë exactly, I am not sure how to source this stuff. I know it's pot and kettle, but sourcing another wiki  is dodgy because wiki content changes all the time. If there was perhaps text based sources, it would be better. I think the stuff about Ing or Inwë as a Man character is in ''Lost Tales'', which I only skimmed briefly, but I could not find anything about him being the King of Lúthien. Perhaps I missed something. The mythology references need better sources or, interesting as it is, I suggest that those parts under 'other versions' and 'inspiration' should be removed. --[[User:Elf-esteem|Elf-esteem]] 15:14, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
While I do not doubt that this mythology influenced Tolkien, and I even saw on a German wiki where another spelling for Yngvi was Ingwë exactly, I am not sure how to source this stuff. I know it's pot and kettle, but sourcing another wiki  is dodgy because wiki content changes all the time. If there were perhaps text based sources, it would be better. I think the stuff about Ing or Inwë as a Man character is in ''Lost Tales'', which I only skimmed briefly, but I could not find anything about him being the King of Lúthien. Perhaps I missed something. The mythology references need better sources or, interesting as they are, I suggest that those parts under 'other versions' and 'inspiration' should be removed. --[[User:Elf-esteem|Elf-esteem]] 15:14, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

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Intersting case: there's a consensus here on TG (and also on Wikipedia), to write articles about imaginary concepts from literature in past tense. The article says:

"[Ingwë] lives in [[Tirion]], in the tower called ''[[Mindon Eldaliéva]]''."

Should this sentence be changed to past tense? I would instinctively say yes, but one could argue that Ingwe is supposed to still live in Tirion. On the other hand, we would then have to discuss the difficult issues of the relation between Arda and our World (the fifth and sixth ages, and so forth), and perhaps that wouldn't be fruitful. Any thoughts?

I'll change the sentence to past tense. Let me now if you differ.

--Morgan 18:07, 21 June 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Past tense. But the whole article is a mess anyway so this problem might be avoided with a rewrite. --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 18:23, 21 June 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm doing some small tweaks, so hold on a little.--Morgan 18:29, 21 June 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]


If Indis is Ingwe's neice, then Ingwe had a sibling. If he had a sibling, he had parents. If he had parents, he's categorically not firstborn. Unsigned comment by 70.48.192.144 (talk).

The inspiration stuff

While I do not doubt that this mythology influenced Tolkien, and I even saw on a German wiki where another spelling for Yngvi was Ingwë exactly, I am not sure how to source this stuff. I know it's pot and kettle, but sourcing another wiki is dodgy because wiki content changes all the time. If there were perhaps text based sources, it would be better. I think the stuff about Ing or Inwë as a Man character is in Lost Tales, which I only skimmed briefly, but I could not find anything about him being the King of Lúthien. Perhaps I missed something. The mythology references need better sources or, interesting as they are, I suggest that those parts under 'other versions' and 'inspiration' should be removed. --Elf-esteem 15:14, 1 May 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply]