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::According to Alan Reynolds "The second quote is from a letter to Wh Auden; it's Letter no, 163 in the book of letters. I don't know where the first quote comes from; it might be no.163 - I've skimmed it quickly, but it's a long letter". ([[User:Sigurd|Sigurd]] 11:05, 22 July 2015 (UTC))
::According to Alan Reynolds "The second quote is from a letter to Wh Auden; it's Letter no, 163 in the book of letters. I don't know where the first quote comes from; it might be no.163 - I've skimmed it quickly, but it's a long letter". ([[User:Sigurd|Sigurd]] 11:05, 22 July 2015 (UTC))
:::It's similar to Letter 163 but it's not Letter 163. I'm not sure where Glenn Beck borrowed these from but I'm guessing this is actually a draft of that letter (or else a draft of a different letter to someone else) because the actual letter is:
:::{{blockquote|But it became The Hobbit in the early 1930s, and was eventually published not because of my own children's enthusiasm (though they liked it well enough), but because I lent it to the then Rev. Mother of Cherwell Edge when she had flu, and it was seen by a former student who was at that time in the office of Allen and Unwin. It was I believe tried out on Rayner Unwin; but for whom when grown up I think I should never have got the Trilogy published.}}
:::Incidentally, the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfAEgzTRQfo&t=5m37s actual text of the first quote is as follows] (correcting the errors above):
:::{{blockquote|I have no confidence in my work, except that forced on me by unexpected success. 'A Great Book', they say and expect, and that alarms me. (My heart is/was in my work, but not on my sleeve, and I have no relish at all for having it stripped bare.}}
:::Hope this helps. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 13:06, 22 July 2015 (UTC)


=== Naming standard ===
=== Naming standard ===

Revision as of 13:06, 22 July 2015

In the television program Glenn Beck, Paul E. Kerry quote two letters, but dont provide dates and more informations. Someone here could find that?

Quote letter 1

"I have no confidence in my work, except thatforced on me by entirely unexprected sucess.'A urest book', they say and expect, and that alarms me. (My heart is/was in my work,but not on my sleeve, and I have no relishat all for having it stripped bate."

Quote letter 2

"they actually emerged onto paper.The Hobbit was written for this children."They liked it. They weren't absolutelywild about it. They quite liked it" Thenit was lent, in manuscript, to the ReverendMother of Cherwell Edge, a women's hostel, duringher illness. A girl at the hostel read it too;She went to work for Allen and Unwin." (Sigurd 07:29, 20 April 2014 (UTC))Reply[reply]

According to Alan Reynolds "The second quote is from a letter to Wh Auden; it's Letter no, 163 in the book of letters. I don't know where the first quote comes from; it might be no.163 - I've skimmed it quickly, but it's a long letter". (Sigurd 11:05, 22 July 2015 (UTC))Reply[reply]
It's similar to Letter 163 but it's not Letter 163. I'm not sure where Glenn Beck borrowed these from but I'm guessing this is actually a draft of that letter (or else a draft of a different letter to someone else) because the actual letter is:

But it became The Hobbit in the early 1930s, and was eventually published not because of my own children's enthusiasm (though they liked it well enough), but because I lent it to the then Rev. Mother of Cherwell Edge when she had flu, and it was seen by a former student who was at that time in the office of Allen and Unwin. It was I believe tried out on Rayner Unwin; but for whom when grown up I think I should never have got the Trilogy published.

Incidentally, the actual text of the first quote is as follows (correcting the errors above):

I have no confidence in my work, except that forced on me by unexpected success. 'A Great Book', they say and expect, and that alarms me. (My heart is/was in my work, but not on my sleeve, and I have no relish at all for having it stripped bare.

Hope this helps. --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 13:06, 22 July 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Naming standard

The naming standards are all over the place. We've got Mr/Mrs and Mr./Mrs. We need consistency, and I propose the latter. --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 17:09, 21 March 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Agree with consistency. I prefer the former but I'm not precious about it. --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 17:43, 21 March 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]
+1 the former (Mr/Mrs): (a) for consistency with The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien and The J.R.R. Tolkien Companion and Guide: Chronology; (b) "Mr." appears to be mostly an American English form, while "Mr" is used both in the US and the UK (if we are to trust WP); (c) simpler page title.--Morgan 00:07, 22 March 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]
As long as it's consistent, I'll take the other. --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 04:12, 22 March 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I like "Mr/Mrs" too.-- KingAragorn  talk  contribs  edits  email  21:29, 22 March 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]