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[edit] The name Lindon

A tricky part is the origin of the name Lindon. The Silmarilion says (my emphasis):

"They were clad in green in spring and summer, and the sound of their singing could be heard even across the waters of Gelion; wherefore the Noldor named that country Lindon, the land of music, and the mountains beyond they named Ered Lindon, for they first saw them from Ossiriand." (Chapter 14).

However, JRRT doesn't seem to have been satisfied with this conception, and wrote in the late essay Quendi and Eldar, that: "The country in which most of [the Nandor] settled, they called Lindon" (p. 385), and goes on to explain the etymology and names used by the Sindar and Noldor. IMO, we should use this later idea, as it is more developed, even though it contradicts the published Silmarillion. --Morgan 11:43, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Harlond and Forlond

It seems impossible to conclude if Harlond and Forlond were separate settlements from Mithlond or if they are merely names of the northern and southern section of Mithlond. Should we preserve the uncertainty in the article texts, or should we adopt an interpretation? --Morgan 12:05, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Mallorns in Lindon

CT writes in Unfinished Tales "...later mentions of mallorns in Númenor, Lindon and Lothlórien..." (chapter 1, note 31). Anyone knows to which "later mentions" CT is referring? --Morgan 12:38, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

This is fascinating, because "A Description of Númenor" says: "Its fruit was a nut with a silver shale; and some were given as a gift by Tar-Aldarion, the sixth King of Númenor, to King Gil-galad of Lindon. they did not take root in that land; but Gil-galad gave some to his kinswoman Galadriel, and under her power they flourished in the guarded land of Lothlórien beside the River Anduin, until the High Elves left Middle-earth; but they did not reach the height or girth of the great groves of Númenor."
In the entirety of The History of Middle-earth, mellyrn is only mentioned in The Treason of Isengard (but only descriptively, as this book includes versions of the chapters "Lothlórien", "The Mirror of Galadriel" and "Farewell to Lórien"); and there is no substantial mention in Letters, either. In A Reader's Companion, they state: "In Middle-earth, with one exception, the mallorn grew only in Lothlórien, and came from Númenor." - of course, the one exception is the mallorn in the Party Field, so they are obviously clear that there were no mellyrn in Lindon.
So, in direct answer to your question: I have no idea what these later mentions are! --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 08:55, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Notes (things to add)

  • Númenórean visits to Lindon
  • The arrival of the Istari --Morgan 12:54, 19 October 2010 (UTC)