Talk:Minas Tirith - Revision history

KingAragorn Bot: Bot message: re-linked.

2012-12-11T00:19:45Z

Bot message: re-linked.

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	I think this article needs to diversify more clearly between info from [[J.R.R. Tolkien\|Tolkien]]'s writings and PJs movies. For example, where does the reference to "a battery of 100 trebuchets" originate? I can't recall it from the book. --[[User:Earendilyon\|Earendilyon]] 16:22, 21 April 2006 (EDT)		I think this article needs to diversify more clearly between info from [[J.R.R. Tolkien\|Tolkien]]'s writings and PJs movies. For example, where does the reference to "a battery of 100 trebuchets" originate? I can't recall it from the book. --[[User:Earendilyon\|Earendilyon]] 16:22, 21 April 2006 (EDT)

−	:I definitely agree. I think we should try and make it a standard to have a "Portrayal in adaptions" heading for the articles which have information related to [[The Lord of the Rings: The ~~Motion Picture Trilogy~~]]. ''But'' I do think it would be alright to show an image from the films as one of the main images for the article, as you have to admit, there are a lot of things they did a great job portraying. --[[User:Hyarion\|Hyarion]] 16:47, 21 April 2006 (EDT)	+	:I definitely agree. I think we should try and make it a standard to have a "Portrayal in adaptions" heading for the articles which have information related to [[The Lord of the Rings (film series)\|''The Lord of the Rings'' (film series)]]. ''But'' I do think it would be alright to show an image from the films as one of the main images for the article, as you have to admit, there are a lot of things they did a great job portraying. --[[User:Hyarion\|Hyarion]] 16:47, 21 April 2006 (EDT)

	::There's no ''but'' there, really, as almost all pictures (except [[J.R.R. Tolkien\|Tolkien]]'s own) are adaptations. And as the source is normally given, I've no problem with adding them to articles. [Nicest thing would be of course, to have as many pictures as possible made by the Professor himself.] --[[User:Earendilyon\|Earendilyon]] 16:53, 21 April 2006 (EDT)		::There's no ''but'' there, really, as almost all pictures (except [[J.R.R. Tolkien\|Tolkien]]'s own) are adaptations. And as the source is normally given, I've no problem with adding them to articles. [Nicest thing would be of course, to have as many pictures as possible made by the Professor himself.] --[[User:Earendilyon\|Earendilyon]] 16:53, 21 April 2006 (EDT)

Mithbot: Bot Message: changing link to Minas Tirith

2011-01-14T00:18:34Z

Bot Message: changing link to Minas Tirith

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	Sotomayor's ''Minas Tirith'' does not resemble Tolkien's description of the capital of Gondor. If we're going to use the image, it will have to be with the First Age fortress of [[Minas Tirith in Beleriand]], which guarded the Pass of Sirion. I've moved the image there.		Sotomayor's ''Minas Tirith'' does not resemble Tolkien's description of the capital of Gondor. If we're going to use the image, it will have to be with the First Age fortress of [[Minas Tirith in Beleriand]], which guarded the Pass of Sirion. I've moved the image there.

−	:Sounds good, your right it doesn't resemble [[Minas Tirith in Gondor]], are we positive it is supposed to be the Minas Tirith in Beleriand though? If it's really just a poorly created version of Minas Tirith in Gondor we can remove it all together. --[[User:Hyarion\|Hyarion]] 18:24, 20 April 2006 (EDT)	+	:Sounds good, your right it doesn't resemble [[Minas Tirith\|Minas Tirith in Gondor]], are we positive it is supposed to be the Minas Tirith in Beleriand though? If it's really just a poorly created version of Minas Tirith in Gondor we can remove it all together. --[[User:Hyarion\|Hyarion]] 18:24, 20 April 2006 (EDT)

	::AFAIK, Tolkien really didn't give a description of Orodreth's Minas Tirith. Since many other images are nothing more than good guesses, and Sotomayor's picture is quite good, I don't have problem using it. --[[User:Ebakunin\|Ebakunin]] 18:52, 20 April 2006 (EDT)		::AFAIK, Tolkien really didn't give a description of Orodreth's Minas Tirith. Since many other images are nothing more than good guesses, and Sotomayor's picture is quite good, I don't have problem using it. --[[User:Ebakunin\|Ebakunin]] 18:52, 20 April 2006 (EDT)

Ederchil: An Eagle has picked up Talk:Minas Tirith (Gondor) and carried it to Talk:Minas Tirith

2010-09-01T15:22:10Z

An Eagle has picked up Talk:Minas Tirith (Gondor) and carried it to Talk:Minas Tirith

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Aule the Smith: /* Move */

2010-09-01T15:19:26Z

Move

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	:::I would prefer that. I agree. --{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 14:28, 1 September 2010 (UTC)		:::I would prefer that. I agree. --{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 14:28, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
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		+	:It would be best if an admin could do it (i.e. delete [[Minas Tirith]] and do a proper move), or we'll break the page history. {{User:Aule the Smith/sig}} 15:19, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

KingAragorn: /* Move */

2010-09-01T14:28:50Z

Move

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	:: Yup. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 14:25, 1 September 2010 (UTC)		:: Yup. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 14:25, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
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		+	:::I would prefer that. I agree. --{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 14:28, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Mith: /* Move */ Do move

2010-09-01T14:25:37Z

Move: Do move

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	:Agreed. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 16:39, 31 August 2010 (UTC)		:Agreed. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 16:39, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
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		+	:: Yup. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 14:25, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Ederchil at 16:39, 31 August 2010

2010-08-31T16:39:24Z

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	How about deleting [[Minas Tirith]] (which redirects here) and moving this there? {{User:Aule the Smith/sig}} 16:34, 31 August 2010 (UTC)		How about deleting [[Minas Tirith]] (which redirects here) and moving this there? {{User:Aule the Smith/sig}} 16:34, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
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		+	:Agreed. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 16:39, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Aule the Smith: /* Move */ new section

2010-08-31T16:34:17Z

Move: new section

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	::That will do for now at least. {{User:Aule the Smith/sig}} 12:26, 22 August 2010 (UTC)		::That will do for now at least. {{User:Aule the Smith/sig}} 12:26, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
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		+	How about deleting [[Minas Tirith]] (which redirects here) and moving this there? {{User:Aule the Smith/sig}} 16:34, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Aule the Smith: /* Anárion */

2010-08-22T12:26:27Z

Anárion

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	:"''Other strong places they built also upon either hand: Minas Ithil, the Tower of the Rising Moon, eastward upon a shoulder of the Mountains of Shadow as a threat to Mordor; and to the westward Minas Anor, the Tower of the Setting Sun, at the feet of Mount Mindolluin, as a shield against the wild men of the dales. In Minas Ithil was the house of Isildur, and in Minas Anor the house of Anárion, but they shared the realm between them and their thrones were set side by side in the Great Hall of Osgiliath.''"		:"''Other strong places they built also upon either hand: Minas Ithil, the Tower of the Rising Moon, eastward upon a shoulder of the Mountains of Shadow as a threat to Mordor; and to the westward Minas Anor, the Tower of the Setting Sun, at the feet of Mount Mindolluin, as a shield against the wild men of the dales. In Minas Ithil was the house of Isildur, and in Minas Anor the house of Anárion, but they shared the realm between them and their thrones were set side by side in the Great Hall of Osgiliath.''"
	:Robert Foster just calls Minas Anor, the "Fortress-city of Anárion". I'm going to keep looking because nearly every source I've read does say this. I must be missing something. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 12:05, 22 August 2010 (UTC)		:Robert Foster just calls Minas Anor, the "Fortress-city of Anárion". I'm going to keep looking because nearly every source I've read does say this. I must be missing something. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 12:05, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
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		+	::That will do for now at least. {{User:Aule the Smith/sig}} 12:26, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Mith: /* Anárion */

2010-08-22T12:05:47Z

Anárion

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	The [[Anárion]] issue is quite frustrating. There seems to be no disagreement that he founded Minas Anor (and Isildur Minas Tirith) amongst the secondary sources, but I can't find it stated explicitly by Tolkien anywhere. {{User:Aule the Smith/sig}} 10:39, 22 August 2010 (UTC)		The [[Anárion]] issue is quite frustrating. There seems to be no disagreement that he founded Minas Anor (and Isildur Minas Tirith) amongst the secondary sources, but I can't find it stated explicitly by Tolkien anywhere. {{User:Aule the Smith/sig}} 10:39, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
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		+	: I can't find this sourced either. The closest I can get to it (and what some websites source) is this quote from ''[[Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age]]'':
		+	:"''Other strong places they built also upon either hand: Minas Ithil, the Tower of the Rising Moon, eastward upon a shoulder of the Mountains of Shadow as a threat to Mordor; and to the westward Minas Anor, the Tower of the Setting Sun, at the feet of Mount Mindolluin, as a shield against the wild men of the dales. In Minas Ithil was the house of Isildur, and in Minas Anor the house of Anárion, but they shared the realm between them and their thrones were set side by side in the Great Hall of Osgiliath.''"
		+	:Robert Foster just calls Minas Anor, the "Fortress-city of Anárion". I'm going to keep looking because nearly every source I've read does say this. I must be missing something. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 12:05, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

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	I think this article needs to diversify more clearly between info from [[J.R.R. Tolkien\|Tolkien]]'s writings and PJs movies. For example, where does the reference to "a battery of 100 trebuchets" originate? I can't recall it from the book. --[[User:Earendilyon\|Earendilyon]] 16:22, 21 April 2006 (EDT)		I think this article needs to diversify more clearly between info from [[J.R.R. Tolkien\|Tolkien]]'s writings and PJs movies. For example, where does the reference to "a battery of 100 trebuchets" originate? I can't recall it from the book. --[[User:Earendilyon\|Earendilyon]] 16:22, 21 April 2006 (EDT)

−	:I definitely agree. I think we should try and make it a standard to have a "Portrayal in adaptions" heading for the articles which have information related to [[The Lord of the Rings: The ~~Motion Picture Trilogy~~]]. ''But'' I do think it would be alright to show an image from the films as one of the main images for the article, as you have to admit, there are a lot of things they did a great job portraying. --[[User:Hyarion\|Hyarion]] 16:47, 21 April 2006 (EDT)	+	:I definitely agree. I think we should try and make it a standard to have a "Portrayal in adaptions" heading for the articles which have information related to [[The Lord of the Rings (film series)\|''The Lord of the Rings'' (film series)]]. ''But'' I do think it would be alright to show an image from the films as one of the main images for the article, as you have to admit, there are a lot of things they did a great job portraying. --[[User:Hyarion\|Hyarion]] 16:47, 21 April 2006 (EDT)

	::There's no ''but'' there, really, as almost all pictures (except [[J.R.R. Tolkien\|Tolkien]]'s own) are adaptations. And as the source is normally given, I've no problem with adding them to articles. [Nicest thing would be of course, to have as many pictures as possible made by the Professor himself.] --[[User:Earendilyon\|Earendilyon]] 16:53, 21 April 2006 (EDT)		::There's no ''but'' there, really, as almost all pictures (except [[J.R.R. Tolkien\|Tolkien]]'s own) are adaptations. And as the source is normally given, I've no problem with adding them to articles. [Nicest thing would be of course, to have as many pictures as possible made by the Professor himself.] --[[User:Earendilyon\|Earendilyon]] 16:53, 21 April 2006 (EDT)