Tolkien Gateway


Revision as of 12:46, 6 October 2011 by Morgan (Talk | contribs)

I don't think it's fair to say that Radagast "did not contribute to Sauron's downfall"; I like to think that he at least had some small part in Sauron's defeat - this is considering (as the article says) that Radagast was mysterious and little is known about him. However I still doubt Radagast succeeded in his purpose in Middle-earth as far as Gandalf did.-- KingAragorn  talk  contribs  edits  email  17:15, 18 June 2008 (EDT)

Agreed, I've changed it to "but there is no record of him contributing to the downfall of Sauron." --Hyarion 17:35, 18 June 2008 (EDT)


While researching for our article on Beorn, I came across Gandalf's saying that Radagast is "a master of shapes and changes of hue" (J.R.R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings, The Fellowship of the Ring, "The Council of Elrond"). Christopher Tolkien notes that "Can this have been suggested by by Beorn's acquaintance with Radagast?" Although Gandalf isn't very clear, perhaps "master of shapes" and "changes of hue" (hue from Old English hīew, hiw "form, appearance, color") could suggest that Radagast was able to transform himself into another appearance (likely that of an animal)? Would this be too much speculation, or is it worthy a note on our article on Radagast? (I remember that MECCG made quite much out of this, with the card "Master of Shape", making Radagast into a Shapeshifter (shifting to a white tiger, according to the card art.)(J.R.R. Tolkien, Christopher Tolkien (ed.), The Treason of Isengard, p. 138, note 27) --Morgan 23:49, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

To my opinion, it's a bit to much speculation. --Amroth
It is speculation, but I think it's worthy of a note; maybe just under MECCG. -- Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 16:16, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
"I am a wizard," continued Gandalf. "I have heard of you, if you have not heard of me; but perhaps you have heard of my good cousin Radagast who lives near the Southern borders of Mirkwood?"
"Yes; not a bad fellow as wizards go, I believe. I used to see him now and again," said Beorn. "Well, now I know who you are, or who you say you are. What do you want?"

J.R.R. Tolkien, The Hobbit, "Queer Lodgings"
Although his connection with Beorn is clear, and the quote above appears to imply it, I think it would be a step too far (after all, I would consider Sauron a "master of shapes", but not a skin-changer). As Ederchil says though, its worthy of mention so long as the reader is not left with a false impression of the facts. --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 16:50, 6 January 2011 (UTC)