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I was under the Impression that Doriath was 'Sacked' by the Dwarves of Nogrod, whereas the Sons of Fëanor were responsible for its ruin. If I am right then this article needs to me merged with the article called 'Ruin of Doriath', so that we'll have an article which describes both the events. What say you, Hyarion? -Legolas 09:06, 10 December 2006 (EST)

I too thought that the Sack of Doriath (i.e. the plunder of Doriath, not its downfall) was the Dwarves going to Doriath and theiving, whereas the fall of Doriath was by the sons of Fëanor. I don't, however, think this article should be merged with the other article as long as this article explains accurately what the Sack of Doriath really was. - Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 09:27, 10 December 2006 (EST)
I am opposed to a merge, personally. I agree that the "Sack of Doriath" refers to when the Dwarves killed the elves and stole their treasure (if it may be called "stealing"). Still, the two events were closely linked. But I don't think that the Sons of Fëanor actually sacked it. Therefore, I suggest that the content of this article be moved to "The Second Kinslaying". --Narfil Palùrfalas 13:02, 10 December 2006 (EST)
I agree with the poster above and believe that there should be two separate articles : "Sack of Doriath" and "The Second Kinslaying". The Sons of Fëanor plundered nothing, thank you very much. They came to recover the Silmaril, after the sacking. ~~ Þelma 14:13, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

Very nice job Legolas. I was hoping someone would fix this article. --Dwarf Lord 12:53, 15 December 2006 (EST)

Thanks Dwarf Lord. And Narfil,thanks for adding the image, now the article is really complete. The red template looks good but the black letters on a red background are a bit difficult to read.--Legolas 23:27, 15 December 2006 (EST)

I know. Unfortunately I do not know how to change the color of the letters, and therefore am hoping that Hyarion (or another) will change it. #F5DEB3 would look good for the background of the boxes (not the title bars), and #808000 would look good for the letters on the title bars, in my opinion. --Narfil Palùrfalas 12:18, 16 December 2006 (EST)
Just bringing this up again, hoping Hyarion (or someone who can do this) will notice and help. --Narfil Palùrfalas 07:41, 9 January 2007 (EST)
I've implemented your colour suggestions. I don't like the green, I have to be honest; the #F5DEB3 isn't too bad, but I think it would look better if it were a bit paler. — Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 09:09, 9 January 2007 (EST)
I agree with you on both points. Change it as you see fit. --Narfil Palùrfalas 10:16, 9 January 2007 (EST)
As they say in cricket, "How's that?!" — Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 11:12, 9 January 2007 (EST)
I wouldn't know - Americans don't play cricket. The template looks much better, thanks. --Narfil Palùrfalas 12:42, 9 January 2007 (EST)

Proper Quotes

Whether this article is re-written or moved, it needs some references. I recognize that a good chunk of the account towards the end of the article are quotes straight out of Of the Ruin of Doriath. These passages either need to be cited properly or reworded so they are not longer quotes.--Theoden1 19:45, 25 July 2008 (EDT)