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Latest comment: 22 February 2015 by Mith in topic Spiders as EVIL?!?!
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::::Devouring everything they kill doesn't exclude evilness. [[User:Sage|Sage]] 09:29, 17 February 2015 (UTC) | ::::Devouring everything they kill doesn't exclude evilness. [[User:Sage|Sage]] 09:29, 17 February 2015 (UTC) | ||
::::Also, Ungoliant very definitely doesn't serve Morgoth; they worked together because it suited their aims at the times (notwithstanding their different motives). Ungoliant is evil because she is. As are other spiders. That is their nature as part of the creation; perhaps when the world is remade they will be good (or not exist) but until that day occurs they are evil. | |||
::::I know this isn't a very satisfying answer, but it is the answer. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 11:08, 22 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
Revision as of 11:08, 22 February 2015
Removed the EoA-rip "evidently as common in [[Middle-earth]] as they are today.". I believe this phrasing too light-heartedly succumbs to the conception that Middle-earth is the same as the "real" world, which is merely one interpretation of the complex relationship between the two worlds. --Morgan 22:56, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
- Agreed.-- KingAragorn talk contribs edits email 00:16, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
Spiders as EVIL?!?!
What? How can spiders be evil? They aren't evil. They're just animals trying to survive. If they were evil, they'd serve Sauron, but they're not. 209.89.245.46 01:36, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- They're not the spiders we know. They're Ungoliant's spawn. Ungoliant was more than just a spider, they are more than just spiders. (They're HUGE!)
- Also, very fundamental flaw with your reasoning: not all evil serves Sauron. It can (and does) exist without him. --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 02:05, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- Also, they are not just animals, they are sentient, and thus can be evil. Sage 13:06, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- Then if they are evil, why do they devour anything they kill? If they were evil they wouldn't. If they did, they would just be animals. I understand Ungoliant being evil, in that she serves Morgoth, but the other spiders? What makes them evil? 209.89.245.46 22:43, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
- Also, they are not just animals, they are sentient, and thus can be evil. Sage 13:06, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- Devouring everything they kill doesn't exclude evilness. Sage 09:29, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- Also, Ungoliant very definitely doesn't serve Morgoth; they worked together because it suited their aims at the times (notwithstanding their different motives). Ungoliant is evil because she is. As are other spiders. That is their nature as part of the creation; perhaps when the world is remade they will be good (or not exist) but until that day occurs they are evil.
- I know this isn't a very satisfying answer, but it is the answer. --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 11:08, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
