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Er, what is this place, exactly? I can't find it on any of my maps or indices. —[[User:Tar-Telperien|Tar-Telperien]] 23:11, 7 December 2006 (EST)
Er, what is this place, exactly? I can't find it on any of my maps or indices. —[[User:Tar-Telperien|Tar-Telperien]] 23:11, 7 December 2006 (EST)


:I had never come accross this reference, but from the description they seem to be the unnamed hills around [[Dor-en-Ernil]] and [[Belfalas]]. I have, however, found a reference to [[Tarnost]] in [[The History of Middle-earth]] book 8, [[The War of the Ring]]: in my edition it's page 437 (paragraph 13, chapter ''The Second Map''). Tarnost is pencilled as a name of a place on the northern end of the hills in an early version of a map of Gondor. The root ''tar-'' certainly correlates with the name of the region, ''Dor-en-Ernil'', but whether Tarnost was meant to stand is debatable. I have found no reference to the name "''Hills of Tarnost''" anywhere (except Wikipedia). --[[User:Mith|Mith]] 20:25, 9 December 2006 (EST)
:I had never come accross this reference, but from the description they seem to be the unnamed hills around [[Dor-en-Ernil]] and [[Belfalas]]. I have, however, found a reference to [[Tarnost]] in [[The History of Middle-earth]] book 8, [[The War of the Ring]]: in my edition it's page 437 (paragraph 13, chapter ''The Second Map''). Tarnost is pencilled as a name of a place on the northern end of the hills in an early version of a map of Gondor. The root ''tar-'' certainly correlates with the name of the region, ''Dor-en-Ernil'', but whether Tarnost was meant to stand is debatable. I have found no reference to the name "''Hills of Tarnost''" anywhere (except Wikipedia). --{{User:Mith/sig}} 20:25, 9 December 2006 (EST)


::The hills of Tarnost are mentioned in [[The History of Middle-earth]] book 9, [[Sauron Defeated]], pages 15 and 17 (editor's comment). In a rejected preliminary version of 'The March of Aragorn and defeat of the Haradrim' Tolkien describes the route of the Grey Company and writes: 'From Erech a road ran by [the] sea, skirting in a loop <b>the hills of Tarnost</b>, and so to Ethir Anduin and the Lebennin'.<br><br>What it comes to the name, I suppose that it should be divided <i>tarn-ost</i>, the latter part meaning 'fortress, fortified city', but <i>tarn</i> is a puzzle to me. Could it be related to q. <i>tarna</i> 'crossing, passage'? --Tik 02:33, 19 September 2007 (EDT)
::The hills of Tarnost are mentioned in [[The History of Middle-earth]] book 9, [[Sauron Defeated]], pages 15 and 17 (editor's comment). In a rejected preliminary version of 'The March of Aragorn and defeat of the Haradrim' Tolkien describes the route of the Grey Company and writes: 'From Erech a road ran by [the] sea, skirting in a loop <b>the hills of Tarnost</b>, and so to Ethir Anduin and the Lebennin'.<br><br>What it comes to the name, I suppose that it should be divided <i>tarn-ost</i>, the latter part meaning 'fortress, fortified city', but <i>tarn</i> is a puzzle to me. Could it be related to q. <i>tarna</i> 'crossing, passage'? --Tik 02:33, 19 September 2007 (EDT)

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Er, what is this place, exactly? I can't find it on any of my maps or indices. —Tar-Telperien 23:11, 7 December 2006 (EST)

I had never come accross this reference, but from the description they seem to be the unnamed hills around Dor-en-Ernil and Belfalas. I have, however, found a reference to Tarnost in The History of Middle-earth book 8, The War of the Ring: in my edition it's page 437 (paragraph 13, chapter The Second Map). Tarnost is pencilled as a name of a place on the northern end of the hills in an early version of a map of Gondor. The root tar- certainly correlates with the name of the region, Dor-en-Ernil, but whether Tarnost was meant to stand is debatable. I have found no reference to the name "Hills of Tarnost" anywhere (except Wikipedia). --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 20:25, 9 December 2006 (EST)
The hills of Tarnost are mentioned in The History of Middle-earth book 9, Sauron Defeated, pages 15 and 17 (editor's comment). In a rejected preliminary version of 'The March of Aragorn and defeat of the Haradrim' Tolkien describes the route of the Grey Company and writes: 'From Erech a road ran by [the] sea, skirting in a loop the hills of Tarnost, and so to Ethir Anduin and the Lebennin'.

What it comes to the name, I suppose that it should be divided tarn-ost, the latter part meaning 'fortress, fortified city', but tarn is a puzzle to me. Could it be related to q. tarna 'crossing, passage'? --Tik 02:33, 19 September 2007 (EDT)