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== Naming Decision == | == Naming Decision == | ||
It was a tough decision arriving at a name for this conflict. Appendix A (ROTK) uses both terms, and the pre-existing Celebrant battle article uses "Balchoth". So I tried to use both. Easterling is more of a generic description. Also, the time period involved here is very long, 700 years or so, but the whole affair is discussed as though it is a unitary conflict in the [[Tale of Years]]. So I kept the time scale long.--[[User:Theoden1|Theoden1]] 17:38, 13 July 2008 (EDT) | It was a tough decision arriving at a name for this conflict. Appendix A (ROTK) uses both terms, and the pre-existing Celebrant battle article uses "Balchoth". So I tried to use both. Easterling is more of a generic description. Also, the time period involved here is very long, 700 years or so, but the whole affair is discussed as though it is a unitary conflict in the [[Appendix B|Tale of Years]]. So I kept the time scale long.--[[User:Theoden1|Theoden1]] 17:38, 13 July 2008 (EDT) | ||
:Some other naming: "Calimehtar-Dagorlad Battle"? Isn't "Second Battle for Dagorlad" a bit better? -- [[User:Ederchil|Ederchil]] 13:07, 14 July 2008 (EDT) | :Some other naming: "Calimehtar-Dagorlad Battle"? Isn't "Second Battle for Dagorlad" a bit better? -- [[User:Ederchil|Ederchil]] 13:07, 14 July 2008 (EDT) | ||
:That's just a place holder-- perhaps 2nd will do.--[[User:Theoden1|Theoden1]] 14:51, 14 July 2008 (EDT) | :That's just a place holder-- perhaps 2nd will do.--[[User:Theoden1|Theoden1]] 14:51, 14 July 2008 (EDT) | ||
:I added a redirect page for [[Easterling War]]. That should keep everyone happy.--[[User:Theoden1|Theoden1]] 14:53, 16 July 2008 (EDT) | |||
== Typo Wars == | |||
Someday, Ederchil, we'll look back on this as the '''Great Typo War'''. I hope we're helping it other, not just chewing on each other. I thought I was helping you out with corrections to Christopher Lee. I hope you're responding with the same charitable spirit, dude.--[[User:Theoden1|Theoden1]] 14:50, 16 July 2008 (EDT) | |||
:Always charitable. We're all here to help eachother. I make typos, you make typos. If we don't correct eachother, then who will? -- [[User:Ederchil|Ederchil]] 15:41, 16 July 2008 (EDT) | |||
==Doesn't make sense== | |||
Sorry folks, it's ludicrous to put the Wainrider/Balchoth conflict into one. The Wainriders were utterly defated in 1944 TA, the Balchoth appear 500 years later. It's like talking about the "Hunnic-Mongol Invasion of Europe" despite Huns and Mongols being different peoples and are separated by 700 years. There's a wainrider conflict and a Balchoth conflict. | |||
Besides, the article is far from complete. And why is there crux behind Ecthelion II? From what I know he died peacefully. --[[User:Thalion|Thalion]] 14:58, 19 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
: I didn't like it either way back when it was created. Split the subject. --[[User:Dwarf Lord|Dwarf Lord]] 18:19, 20 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
:+1 --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 14:58, 21 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
[[User:Woolly Mammoth|Woolly Mammoth]] 16:24, 14 May 2015 (UTC) If the start of this "war" was in {{TA|1851}}, then what the bloody hell are Tarostar and Turambar doing in the list of commanders? | |||
:The body text names Rómendacil I which clearly has then been added to the infobox. However, I don't accept that that this article should actually exist so perhaps we should take this as an opportunity to discuss this article's future and scope. | |||
:Can I say, though, that I don't think your language, Woolly Mammoth - "what the bloody hell" - is appropriate for this wiki. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 07:46, 15 May 2015 (UTC) |
Revision as of 07:46, 15 May 2015
Naming Decision
It was a tough decision arriving at a name for this conflict. Appendix A (ROTK) uses both terms, and the pre-existing Celebrant battle article uses "Balchoth". So I tried to use both. Easterling is more of a generic description. Also, the time period involved here is very long, 700 years or so, but the whole affair is discussed as though it is a unitary conflict in the Tale of Years. So I kept the time scale long.--Theoden1 17:38, 13 July 2008 (EDT)
- Some other naming: "Calimehtar-Dagorlad Battle"? Isn't "Second Battle for Dagorlad" a bit better? -- Ederchil 13:07, 14 July 2008 (EDT)
- That's just a place holder-- perhaps 2nd will do.--Theoden1 14:51, 14 July 2008 (EDT)
- I added a redirect page for Easterling War. That should keep everyone happy.--Theoden1 14:53, 16 July 2008 (EDT)
Typo Wars
Someday, Ederchil, we'll look back on this as the Great Typo War. I hope we're helping it other, not just chewing on each other. I thought I was helping you out with corrections to Christopher Lee. I hope you're responding with the same charitable spirit, dude.--Theoden1 14:50, 16 July 2008 (EDT)
- Always charitable. We're all here to help eachother. I make typos, you make typos. If we don't correct eachother, then who will? -- Ederchil 15:41, 16 July 2008 (EDT)
Doesn't make sense
Sorry folks, it's ludicrous to put the Wainrider/Balchoth conflict into one. The Wainriders were utterly defated in 1944 TA, the Balchoth appear 500 years later. It's like talking about the "Hunnic-Mongol Invasion of Europe" despite Huns and Mongols being different peoples and are separated by 700 years. There's a wainrider conflict and a Balchoth conflict. Besides, the article is far from complete. And why is there crux behind Ecthelion II? From what I know he died peacefully. --Thalion 14:58, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
- I didn't like it either way back when it was created. Split the subject. --Dwarf Lord 18:19, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
- +1 --Amroth 14:58, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
Woolly Mammoth 16:24, 14 May 2015 (UTC) If the start of this "war" was in T.A. 1851, then what the bloody hell are Tarostar and Turambar doing in the list of commanders?
- The body text names Rómendacil I which clearly has then been added to the infobox. However, I don't accept that that this article should actually exist so perhaps we should take this as an opportunity to discuss this article's future and scope.