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| name=Thargelion
| othernames=[[Talath Rhúnen]], [[Dor Caranthir]]
| image=[[File:Matěj Čadil - Dor Caranthir.jpg|250px]]
| etymology=[[S.]] ''[[thar]]'' "beyond" + [[Gelion]]
| caption="Dor Caranthir" by Matěj Čadil
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| othernames=Talath Rhúnen, Dor Caranthir
| location=[[East Beleriand]], north of [[Ossiriand]] and east of the [[Gelion]]
| type=Region
| type=Region
| location=North of [[Ascar]], East/South of [[Gelion]]/[[Greater Gelion]], West of [[Ered Luin]]
| inhabitants=[[Haladin]]
| realms=[[Haladin]]
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| events=[[Battle of the Gelion-Ascar Stockade]]
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| inhabitants=[[Haladin]], [[Noldor]]
'''Thargelion''' was a region of [[Beleriand]].
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| destroyed=
| events=[[Battle of the Gelion-Ascar Stockade]], [[Dagor Bragollach]]
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'''Thargelion''', earlier known as '''Talath Rhúnen''' and later known as '''Dor Caranthir''', was a flat wooded region of [[East Beleriand]], between the river [[Gelion]] and the [[Blue Mountains]]. It was north of the river [[Ascar]], and therefore not counted as part of [[Ossiriand]]. At its northern end was Lake [[Helevorn]] and Mount [[Rerir]].<ref name=bel>{{S|Beleriand}}</ref><ref>{{S|Map}}</ref>
==History==
The [[Sindar]] called this land ''Talath Rhúnen''. After the Rebellion of the [[Noldor]] this was the land of [[Caranthir]], one of the [[Sons of Fëanor]], and after him it was often called ''[[Dor]] Caranthir'', "Land of Caranthir". There the Noldor met the [[Dwarves of the Blue Mountains]].<ref name=bel/>
 
The [[Haladin]] briefly dwelt there independently, near the river Ascar, until they were nearly destroyed in an [[Orcs|Orc]]-raid. Caranthir offered part of his land to their leader, [[Haleth]], but she refused and instead led her people to [[Brethil]].<ref>{{S|West}}</ref>


Thargelion literally meant 'beyond Gelion', as it was east of the river [[Gelion]]. It was north of the river '''Ascar''', and therefore not counted as part of [[Ossiriand]].
During the [[Dagor Bragollach]], Orcs broke the defenses of [[Maglor's Gap]], defiled Helevorn, and ravaged all Thargelion before passing over Gelion farther into East Beleriand. Caranthir fled to the south with the remainder of his people.<ref>{{S|Fingolfin}}</ref>


After the Rebellion of the [[Noldor]] this was the land of [[Caranthir]], one of the [[Sons of Fëanor]], and after him it was often called '''Dor Caranthir'''.
Caranthir later gave some of his former lands to [[Uldor]].<ref>[[The Second 'Silmarillion' Map]]</ref>


The [[Haladin]] briefly dwelt here until they were nearly wiped out in an [[Orcs|Orc]]-raid.
==Etymology==
''Thargelion'' is a [[Sindarin]] name, consisting of ''thar-'' ("across, over") and ''[[Gelion#Etymology|Gelion]]''.<ref>{{PE|17}}, p. 34</ref>


''[[Talath]] [[Rhûn|Rhún]]en'' is glossed as "East Vale".<ref name=bel/><ref>{{S|Elements}}</ref>
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| title=Region of Dor Caranthir
| north-west=[[Greater Gelion]], [[March of Maedhros]], [[Himring]]
| north=[[Maglor's Gap]].<br/>'''[[Lothlann]]'''
| north-east=[[Lake Helevorn]], [[Mount Rerir]],<br/>[[Ered Luin]]
| west=[[Gelion|River Gelion]], [[Estolad]].<br/>'''[[East Beleriand]]'''
| east=[[Ered Luin]].<br/>'''[[Eriador]]'''
| south-west=[[Gelion|River Gelion]],<br/>[[Sarn Athrad]]
| south=[[Ascar|River Ascar]].<br/>'''[[Ossiriand]]'''
| south-east=[[Mount Dolmed]]
|}}
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Latest revision as of 20:14, 13 March 2022

Thargelion
Region
Matěj Čadil - Dor Caranthir.jpg
"Dor Caranthir" by Matěj Čadil
General Information
Other namesTalath Rhúnen, Dor Caranthir
LocationEast Beleriand, north of Ossiriand and east of the Gelion
TypeRegion
People and History
InhabitantsHaladin, Noldor
EventsBattle of the Gelion-Ascar Stockade, Dagor Bragollach
GalleryImages of Thargelion

Thargelion, earlier known as Talath Rhúnen and later known as Dor Caranthir, was a flat wooded region of East Beleriand, between the river Gelion and the Blue Mountains. It was north of the river Ascar, and therefore not counted as part of Ossiriand. At its northern end was Lake Helevorn and Mount Rerir.[1][2]

History[edit | edit source]

The Sindar called this land Talath Rhúnen. After the Rebellion of the Noldor this was the land of Caranthir, one of the Sons of Fëanor, and after him it was often called Dor Caranthir, "Land of Caranthir". There the Noldor met the Dwarves of the Blue Mountains.[1]

The Haladin briefly dwelt there independently, near the river Ascar, until they were nearly destroyed in an Orc-raid. Caranthir offered part of his land to their leader, Haleth, but she refused and instead led her people to Brethil.[3]

During the Dagor Bragollach, Orcs broke the defenses of Maglor's Gap, defiled Helevorn, and ravaged all Thargelion before passing over Gelion farther into East Beleriand. Caranthir fled to the south with the remainder of his people.[4]

Caranthir later gave some of his former lands to Uldor.[5]

Etymology[edit | edit source]

Thargelion is a Sindarin name, consisting of thar- ("across, over") and Gelion.[6]

Talath Rhúnen is glossed as "East Vale".[1][7]

Region of Dor Caranthir
Greater Gelion, March of Maedhros, Himring Maglor's Gap.
Lothlann
Lake Helevorn, Mount Rerir,
Ered Luin
River Gelion, Estolad.
East Beleriand
WindRose3.pngEred Luin.
Eriador
River Gelion,
Sarn Athrad
River Ascar.
Ossiriand
Mount Dolmed

References