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{{quote|[[Morgoth]] held hurled aloft [[Grond (Hammer of the Underworld)|Grond, Hammer of the Underworld]], and swung it down like a bolt of thunder. But Fingolfin sprang aside, and [[Grond (Hammer of the Underworld)|Grond]] rent a mighty pit in the earth, whence smoke and fire darted. Many times Morgoth essayed to smite him, and each time [[Fingolfin]] leaped away, as a lightning shoots from under dark cloud; and he wounded Morgoth with seven wounds, and seven times Morgoth gave a cry of anguish, whereat the hosts of [[Angband]] fell upon their faces in dismay, and the cries echoed in the [[Northlands]].|{{S|Fingolfin}}}}


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I'm not sure where to place this, but I'll put it here. I think the balance of the overall set of quotes is too far in favour of ''[[The Lord of the Rings|TLOTR]]'', as I think we should have more from other publications, especially ''[[The Hobbit]]'' and ''[[The Silmarillion]]''. What does everyone else think? --{{User:Mith/sig}} 14:19, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
I'm not sure where to place this, but I'll put it here. I think the balance of the overall set of quotes is too far in favour of ''[[The Lord of the Rings|TLOTR]]'', as I think we should have more from other publications, especially ''[[The Hobbit]]'' and ''[[The Silmarillion]]''. What does everyone else think? --{{User:Mith/sig}} 14:19, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
:I agree. But it's just because I started with quotes from TLOTR. When I'm finished with that I will look for some from the other books. We certainly shouldn't stop when we have 52 quotes but should keep finding new ones until we have enough from every important book. And if you have more great quotes like our present FQ you could post them. --[[User:Eldarion Telcontar|Eldarion Telcontar]] 00:15, 10 January 2011 (UTC)


== Featured Quote Nominations ==
== Featured Quote Nominations ==

Revision as of 00:15, 10 January 2011

List of 52 nominated quotes

In the last two meetings it was decided to draw up a list of 52 or more quotes in order to have fresh quotes for an entire year. So anyone should feel free to add quotes to the following list or comment on them:

  • 48 done, (at least) 4 to go

The Fellowship of the Ring

"'Proudfeet!' shouted an elderly hobbit from the back of the pavillion. His name, of course, was Proudfoot, and well merited; his feet were large, exceptionally furry, and both were on the table."
The Fellowship of the Ring, "A Long-expected Party"

"You'll find his will and all the other documents in there, I think, "said the wizard.
"You are the master of Bag End now. And also, I fancy, you'll find a golden ring."
"
The Fellowship of the Ring, "A Long-expected Party"

"Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends."
The Fellowship of the Ring, "The Shadow of the Past"

"He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom."
The Fellowship of the Ring, "The Council of Elrond"

"Despair is only for those who see the end beyond all doubt. We do not."
The Fellowship of the Ring, "The Council of Elrond"

"Seek for the Sword that was broken:
In Imladris it dwells;
There shall be counsels taken
Stronger than Morgul-spells.
There shall be shown a token
That Doom is near at hand,
For Isildur's Bane shall waken,
And the Halfling forth shall stand.
"
The Fellowship of the Ring, "The Council of Elrond"

"We must take a hard road, a road unforeseen. There lies our hope, if hope it be. To walk into peril — to Mordor. We must send the Ring to the Fire."
The Fellowship of the Ring, "The Council of Elrond"

"Let folly be our cloak, a veil before the eyes of the Enemy! For he is very wise, and weighs all things to a nicety in the scales of his malice. But the only measure that he knows is desire, desire for power; and so he judges all hearts. Into his heart the thought will not enter that any will refuse it, that having the Ring we may seek to destroy it. If we seek this, we shall put him out of reckoning."
The Fellowship of the Ring, "The Council of Elrond"

"I had thought of putting: and he lived happily ever afterwards to the end of his days. It is a good ending, and none the worse for having been used before. Now I shall have to alter that: it does not look like coming true."
The Fellowship of the Ring, "The Council of Elrond"

""I will take the Ring," he said, "though I do not know the way.""
The Fellowship of the Ring, "The Council of Elrond"

""You cannot pass," he said. The orcs stood still, and a dead silence fell. "I am a servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the flame of Anor. You cannot pass. The dark fire will not avail you, flame of Udûn. Go back to the Shadow! You cannot pass.""
The Fellowship of the Ring, "The Bridge of Khazad-dûm"

""Fly you fools!" he cried, and was gone."
The Fellowship of the Ring, "The Bridge of Khazad-dûm"

"Indeed in nothing is the power of the Dark Lord more clearly shown than in the estrangement that divides all those who still oppose him."
The Fellowship of the Ring, "Lothlórien"

"The world is indeed full of peril, and in it there are many dark places; but still there is much that is fair, and though in all lands love is now mingled with grief, it grows perhaps the greater."
The Fellowship of the Ring, "Lothlórien"

"And now at last it comes. You will give me the Ring freely! In place of the Dark Lord you will set up a Queen. And I shall not be dark, but beautiful and terrible as the Morning and the Night! Fair as the Sea and the Sun and the Snow upon the Mountain! Dreadful as the Storm and the Lightning! Stronger than the foundations of the earth. All shall love me and despair!"
The Fellowship of the Ring, "The Mirror of Galadriel"

"Memory is not what the heart desires. That is only a mirror, be it clear as Kheled-zâram. Or so says the heart of Gimli the Dwarf. Elves may see things otherwise. Indeed I have heard that for them memory is more like to the waking world than to a dream. Not so for Dwarves."
The Fellowship of the Ring, "Farewell to Lórien"

"For the Elves the world moves, and it moves both very swift and very slow. Swift, because they themselves change little, and all else fleets by: it is a grief to them. Slow, because they do not count the running years, not for themselves."
The Fellowship of the Ring, "The Great River"

"It is no good trying to escape you. But I'm glad, Sam. I cannot tell you how glad. Come along! It is plain that we were meant to go together. We will go, and may the others find a safe road!"
The Fellowship of the Ring, "The Breaking of the Fellowship"

The Two Towers

"Gondor! Gondor, between the Mountains and the Sea!
West Wind blew there; the light upon the Silver Tree
Fell like bright rain in gardens of the Kings of old.
O proud walls! White towers! O winged crown and throne of gold!
O Gondor, Gondor! Shall Men behold the Silver Tree,
Or West Wind blow again between the Mountains and the Sea?
"
The Two Towers, "The Riders of Rohan"

"There are some things that it is better to begin than to refuse, even though the end may be dark."
The Two Towers, "The Riders of Rohan"

"Out of the shadows the hobbits peeped, gazing back down the slope:little furtive figures that in the dim light looked like elf-children in the deeps of time peering out of the Wild Wood in wonder at their first dawn."
The Two Towers, "The Uruk-hai"

"Do not be hasty, that is my motto."
The Two Towers, "Treebeard"

"Learn now the lore of Living Creatures!
First name the four, the free peoples:
Eldest of all, the elf-children;
Dwarf the delver, dark are his houses;
Ent the earthborn, old as mountains;
Man the mortal, master of horses.
"
The Two Towers, "Treebeard"

"To Isengard! Though Isengard be ringed and barred with doors of stone;
Though Isengard be strong and hard, as cold as stone and bare as bone,
We go, we go, we go to war, to hew the stone and break the door;
For bole and bough are burning now, the furnace roars - we go to war!
To land of gloom with tramp of doom, with roll of drum, we come, we come;
To Isengard with doom we come!
With doom we come, with doom we come!
"
The Two Towers, "Treebeard"

""Yes, I am white now," said Gandalf. "Indeed I am Saruman, one might almost say, Saruman as he should have been.""
The Two Towers, "The White Rider"

"I was talking aloud to myself. A habit of the old: they choose the wisest person present to speak to; the long explanations needed by the young are wearying."
The Two Towers, "The White Rider"

"The Dark Lord has Nine. But we have One, mightier than they: the White Rider. He has passed through the fire and the abyss, and they shall fear him. We will go where he leads."
The Two Towers, "The White Rider"

"Where now the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing?
Where is the helm and the hauberk, and the bright hair flowing?
Where is the hand on the harpstring, and the red fire glowing?
Where is the spring and the harvest and the tall corn growing?
They have passed like rain on the mountain, like a wind in the meadow;
The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow.
Who shall gather the smoke of the dead wood burning,
Or behold the flowing years from the Sea returning?
"
The Two Towers, "The King of the Golden Hall"

"We are all friends here. Or should be; for the laughter of Mordor will be our only reward, if we quarrel."
The Two Towers, "The King of the Golden Hall"

"Arise now, arise, Riders of Théoden!
Dire deeds awake, dark is it eastward.
Let horse be bridled, horn be sounded!
Forth Eorlingas!
"
The Two Towers, "The King of the Golden Hall"

"To crooked eyes truth may wear a wry face."
The Two Towers, "The King of the Golden Hall"

""So that is the King of Rohan," said Pippin in an undertone. "A fine old fellow. Very polite.""
The Two Towers, "The Road to Isengard"

"Often does hatred hurt itself!"
The Two Towers, "The Voice of Saruman"

"Perilous to us all are the devices of an art deeper than we possess ourselves."
The Two Towers, "The Palantir"

"Tall ships and tall kings
Three times three,
What brought they from the foundered land
Over the flowing sea?
Seven stars and seven stones
And one white tree.
"
The Two Towers, "The Palantír"

"Shadowfax tossed his head and cried aloud, as if a trumpet had summoned him to battle. Then he sprang forward. Fire flew from his feet; night rushed over him."
The Two Towers, "The Palantír"

"It was Sam's first view of a battle of Men against Men, and he did not like it much. He was glad that he could not see the dead face. He wondered what the man's name was and where he came from; and if he was really evil of heart, or what lies or threats had led him on the long march from his home; and if he would not really rather have stayed there in peace-all in a flash of thought which was quickly driven from his mind."
The Two Towers, "Of Herbs and Stewed Rabbit"

"I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend."
The Two Towers, "The Window on the West"

The Return of The King

"I count many things: stars in sky, leaves on trees, men in the dark. You have a score of scores counted ten times and five. They have more. Big fight, and who will win? And many more walk round walls of Stone-houses."
The Two Towers, "The Ride of the Rohirrim"

"But no living man am I! You look upon a woman. Eowyn I am, Eomund's daughter. You stand between me and my lord and kin. Begone, if you be not deathless! For living or dark undead, I will smite you, if you touch him."
The Return of the King, "The Battle of the Pelennor Fields"

"'Master Meriadoc,' said Aragorn, 'if you think that I have passed through the mountains and the realm of Gondor with fire and sword to bring herbs to a careless soldier who throws away his gear, you are mistaken. If your pack has not been found, then you must send for the herb-master of this House. And he will tell you that he did not know that the herb you desire had any virtues, but that it is called westmansweed by the vulgar, and galenas by the noble, and other names in other tongues more learned, and after adding a few half-forgotten rhymes that he does not understand, he will regretfully inform you that there is none in the House, and he will leave you to reflect on the history of tongues. And so now must I. For I have not slept in such a bed as this, since I rode from Dunharrow, nor eaten since the dark before dawn.'"
The Return of the King, "The Houses of Healing"

"It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till. What weather they shall have is not ours to rule.""
The Return of the King, "The Last Debate"

"For upon that road I was put to shame: Gimli Gloin's son, who had deemed himself more tough than Men, and hardier under earth than any Elf. But neither did I prove; and I was held to the road only by the will of Aragorn."
The Return of the King, "The Last Debate"

"Dwarf-coat, elf-cloak, blade of the downfallen West, and spy from the little rat-land of the Shire, nay; do not start! We know it well - here are the marks of a conspiracy. Now, maybe he that bore these things was a creature that you would not grieve to lose, and maybe otherwise: one dear to you, perhaps? If so, take swift counsel with what little wit is left to you. For Sauron does not love spies, and what his fate shall be depends now on your choice."
The Return of the King, "The Black Gate Opens"

"It is useless to meet revenge with revenge: it will heal nothing."
The Return of the King, "The Scouring of the Shire"

The Hobbit

"If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world."
The Hobbit, "The Return Journey"

The Silmarillion

Unfinished Tales

"When you think of the great Battle of Pelennor, do not forget the Battle of Dale. Think of what might have been. Dragon-fire and savage swords in Eriador! There might be no Queen in Gondor. We might now only hope to return from the victory here to ruin and ash. But that has been averted – because I met Thorin Oakenshield one evening on the edge of spring not far from Bree. A chance-meeting, as we say in Middle-earth."
Unfinished Tales, "The Quest of Erebor"

Comments

I'm not sure where to place this, but I'll put it here. I think the balance of the overall set of quotes is too far in favour of TLOTR, as I think we should have more from other publications, especially The Hobbit and The Silmarillion. What does everyone else think? --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 14:19, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

I agree. But it's just because I started with quotes from TLOTR. When I'm finished with that I will look for some from the other books. We certainly shouldn't stop when we have 52 quotes but should keep finding new ones until we have enough from every important book. And if you have more great quotes like our present FQ you could post them. --Eldarion Telcontar 00:15, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Featured Quote Nominations

There have never really been any standards for a Featured Quote, but let us begin. Following the general model of the Featured Article, let's specify a nomination followed by five affirmative votes; state either Agree or Disagree. The nominated quote should not exceed a single paragraph.

Tolkien's Own

"The Hobbits are just rustic English people, made small in size because it reflects the generally small reach of their imagination --not the small reach of their courage or latent power."
J.R.R. Tolkien
Disagree; though, yes, Tolkien wrote them all, the first and third are in-universe and should thus be attributed to their respective characters. -- Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 07:56, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Undecided -I think if you add "- not the small reach of their courage or latent power" to the end, then I might agree.-- KingAragorn  talk  contribs  edits  email  17:00, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Disagree; I think a quote which is more "profound" on the nature of Hobbits would be better --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 14:13, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Gandalf at The Last Debate

"It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till. What weather they shall have is not ours to rule.""
The Last Debate

Proposed by: -- Eldarion Telcontar

Agree - I like this, it reminds me of my favourite "All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us". --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 14:15, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Gandalf on the Departure of Bilbo

"You'll find his will and all the other documents in there, I think, "said the wizard.
"You are the master of Bag End now. And also, I fancy, you'll find a golden ring."
"
The Fellowship of the Ring, "A Long-expected Party"

Proposed by: -- Breragor (TalkContribsEdits)

Agree: I like this quote because it tells how Frodo gets the ring. It's great how relaxed Gandalf tells Frodo that he has inherited the most powerful object in middle-earth... -- Eldarion Telcontar 23:07, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Agree: I love how nonchalant Gandalf is here, it's a good reflection of his true character. If I can agree to my own nomination, then here it is! --Breragor (TalkContribsEdits) 20:54, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
Undecided: Maybe just the the second line only (if we follow the rules above, we shouldn't have more than one paragraph). --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 14:16, 24 September 2010 (UTC)