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==LotR== | ==LotR== | ||
* [[J.R.R. Tolkien]], ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'', ''[[The Fellowship of the Ring]]'', [[Strider (chapter)|Strider]] | * [[J.R.R. Tolkien]], ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'', ''[[The Fellowship of the Ring]]'', "[[Strider (chapter)|Strider]]" | ||
::''Note: Disambiguated chapter titles such as ''[[Strider (chapter)]]'' are piped away.'' | ::''Note: Disambiguated chapter titles such as ''[[Strider (chapter)]]'' are piped away.'' | ||
:::'''Update note: We go with the "Four book" method. | :::'''Update note: We go with the "Four book" method. | ||
===50th Anniversary edition=== | ===50th Anniversary edition=== | ||
* [[J.R.R. Tolkien]]; [[Wayne G. Hammond]], [[Christina Scull]] (eds.), ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' ([[The Lord of the Rings (50th Anniversary Edition)|50th anniversary edition]]), ''[[The Fellowship of the Ring]]'', [[Strider (chapter)|Strider]] | * [[J.R.R. Tolkien]]; [[Wayne G. Hammond]], [[Christina Scull]] (eds.), ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' ([[The Lord of the Rings (50th Anniversary Edition)|50th anniversary edition]]), ''[[The Fellowship of the Ring]]'', "[[Strider (chapter)|Strider]]" | ||
::''Note: Editors are separated from the author by a semi-colon.'' | ::''Note: Editors are separated from the author by a semi-colon.'' | ||
:::'''Update note: I forgot whether we went with this or not.''' | :::'''Update note: I forgot whether we went with this or not.''' | ||
===Appendices=== | ===Appendices=== | ||
* [[J.R.R. Tolkien]], ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'', [[Appendix A]], I: The Númenorean Kings, iii: Eriador, Arnor, and the Heirs of Isildur | * [[J.R.R. Tolkien]], ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'', "[[Appendix A]]", I: The Númenorean Kings, iii: Eriador, Arnor, and the Heirs of Isildur | ||
::''Note: Even though they are published in ''[[The Return of the King]]'' in many editions, the Appendices are appended to ''The Lord of the Rings'' proper; they are, one might say, a fourth volume.'' | ::''Note: Even though they are published in ''[[The Return of the King]]'' in many editions, the Appendices are appended to ''The Lord of the Rings'' proper; they are, one might say, a fourth volume.'' | ||
==Hobbit== | ==Hobbit== | ||
* [[J.R.R. Tolkien]], ''[[The Hobbit]]'', [[Riddles in the Dark]] (First edition) | * [[J.R.R. Tolkien]], ''[[The Hobbit]]'', "[[Riddles in the Dark]]" (First edition) | ||
* [[J.R.R. Tolkien]], ''[[The Hobbit]]'', [[Riddles in the Dark]] (Second edition) | * [[J.R.R. Tolkien]], ''[[The Hobbit]]'', "[[Riddles in the Dark]]" (Second edition) | ||
:::'''Update note: editions (where relevant) in letters, capital first letter.''' | :::'''Update note: editions (where relevant) in letters, capital first letter.''' | ||
==UT, Sil== | ==UT, Sil== | ||
* [[J.R.R. Tolkien]]; [[Christopher Tolkien]] (ed.), ''[[Unfinished Tales]]'', [[The Drúedain]] | * [[J.R.R. Tolkien]]; [[Christopher Tolkien]] (ed.), ''[[Unfinished Tales]]'', "[[The Drúedain]]" | ||
==HoMe== | ==HoMe== | ||
* [[J.R.R. Tolkien]]; [[Christopher Tolkien]] (ed.), ''[[The History of Middle-earth]]'', ''[[The Lays of Beleriand]]'', [[The Lay of Leithian]] | * [[J.R.R. Tolkien]]; [[Christopher Tolkien]] (ed.), ''[[The History of Middle-earth]]'', ''[[The Lays of Beleriand]]'', "[[The Lay of Leithian]]" | ||
:::'''Update note: LoL should also include canto number. | |||
===Etymologies=== | ===Etymologies=== | ||
* [[J.R.R. Tolkien]]; [[Christopher Tolkien]] (ed.), ''[[The History of Middle-earth]]'', ''[[The Lays of Beleriand]]'', [[The Etymologies]], entries BLAH and BLAH | * [[J.R.R. Tolkien]]; [[Christopher Tolkien]] (ed.), ''[[The History of Middle-earth]]'', ''[[The Lays of Beleriand]]'', "[[The Etymologies]]", entries BLAH and BLAH | ||
==HoTH== | ==HoTH== | ||
* [[J.R.R. Tolkien]]; [[John D. Rateliff]] (ed.), ''[[The History of The Hobbit]]'', ''[[Return to Bag End]]'', [[The Fifth Phase]] | * [[J.R.R. Tolkien]]; [[John D. Rateliff]] (ed.), ''[[The History of The Hobbit]]'', ''[[Return to Bag End]]'', "[[The Fifth Phase]]" | ||
==The Letters== | ==The Letters== | ||
* [[J.R.R. Tolkien]]; [[Humphrey Carpenter]], [[Christopher Tolkien]] (eds.), ''[[The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien]]'', [[Letter 86]] ([[October 23]], [[1944]]) | * [[J.R.R. Tolkien]]; [[Humphrey Carpenter]], [[Christopher Tolkien]] (eds.), ''[[The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien]]'', [[Letter 86]] ([[October 23]], [[1944]]) | ||
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* [[Chris Smith]], ''[[The Lord of the Rings: Weapons and Warfare]]'', page 76, 77 | * [[Chris Smith]], ''[[The Lord of the Rings: Weapons and Warfare]]'', page 76, 77 | ||
===Works that we don't "have"=== | ===Works that we don't "have"=== | ||
* [[Christopher Lee]], ''Lord of Misrule'' <sup> | * [[Christopher Lee]], ''Lord of Misrule'' <sup>ISBN</sup>, page number | ||
==Websites== | ==Websites== | ||
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==Adaptations== | ==Adaptations== | ||
===Films=== | ===Films=== | ||
* ''Film'', | * ''Film'', "Scene" | ||
===Radio series=== | ===Radio series=== | ||
* ''Series'', | * ''Series'', "Episode" | ||
:::'''Update note: the 1981 series should be referenced by 26 episodes as broadcast, not 13 as published.''' | :::'''Update note: the 1981 series should be referenced by 26 episodes as broadcast, not 13 as published.''' |
Revision as of 11:55, 15 September 2008
- This is a test page by User:Ederchil. It is currently a hunting ground for the new references system.
A couple of ways to refer to books, articles, et cetera. Voice comments and concerns on the talk page. Page numbers et cetera serve as example
LotR
- Note: Disambiguated chapter titles such as Strider (chapter) are piped away.
- Update note: We go with the "Four book" method.
- Note: Disambiguated chapter titles such as Strider (chapter) are piped away.
50th Anniversary edition
- J.R.R. Tolkien; Wayne G. Hammond, Christina Scull (eds.), The Lord of the Rings (50th anniversary edition), The Fellowship of the Ring, "Strider"
- Note: Editors are separated from the author by a semi-colon.
- Update note: I forgot whether we went with this or not.
- Note: Editors are separated from the author by a semi-colon.
Appendices
- J.R.R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings, "Appendix A", I: The Númenorean Kings, iii: Eriador, Arnor, and the Heirs of Isildur
- Note: Even though they are published in The Return of the King in many editions, the Appendices are appended to The Lord of the Rings proper; they are, one might say, a fourth volume.
Hobbit
- J.R.R. Tolkien, The Hobbit, "Riddles in the Dark" (First edition)
- J.R.R. Tolkien, The Hobbit, "Riddles in the Dark" (Second edition)
- Update note: editions (where relevant) in letters, capital first letter.
UT, Sil
HoMe
- J.R.R. Tolkien; Christopher Tolkien (ed.), The History of Middle-earth, The Lays of Beleriand, "The Lay of Leithian"
- Update note: LoL should also include canto number.
Etymologies
- J.R.R. Tolkien; Christopher Tolkien (ed.), The History of Middle-earth, The Lays of Beleriand, "The Etymologies", entries BLAH and BLAH
HoTH
- J.R.R. Tolkien; John D. Rateliff (ed.), The History of The Hobbit, Return to Bag End, "The Fifth Phase"
The Letters
- J.R.R. Tolkien; Humphrey Carpenter, Christopher Tolkien (eds.), The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien, Letter 86 (October 23, 1944)
Semisecondary
"Nomenclature"
- J.R.R. Tolkien, "Nomenclature of The Lord of the Rings", published in The Lord of the Rings: A Reader's Companion (by Wayne G. Hammond and Christina Scull), page number
- Note: Because the printed text in Lobdell (ed.) A Tolkien Compass, 1st edn. is no longer freely available, I vote for only referencing to this occurance of the source.
Other semi-secondary material by Tolkien
- J.R.R. Tolkien, "Words, Phrases & Passages in 'The Lord of the Rings'", published in Parma Eldalamberon issue 17 (June 2007), edited by Christopher Gilson, page 113.
- Note: This method applies to ALL magazine articles.
- Update note: I can't remember which of the two was to be standard...
- Note: This method applies to ALL magazine articles.
Works by other authors
Works that we "have"
- Chris Smith, The Lord of the Rings: Weapons and Warfare, page 76, 77
Works that we don't "have"
- Christopher Lee, Lord of Misrule ISBN, page number
Websites
Author/Editor websites
- Måns Björkman, Mellonath Daeron Tenwar Specimina, Forodrim.org, DTS 15 (accessed September 8, 2008)
"Institute" websites
- Weaponmasters.com, The Noble Collection Glamdring (accessed September 8, 2008)
Documentaries
- Beyond the Movie: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001)
- The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers - Special Extended DVD Edition, "Designing Middle-earth" (2002)
- Note: I haven't got a clue how to do this properly. Oh, and in the light of renaming every adaptation, that seems to be the EE's official name.
- Update note: added year, DVD first.
- Note: I haven't got a clue how to do this properly. Oh, and in the light of renaming every adaptation, that seems to be the EE's official name.
Adaptations
Films
- Film, "Scene"
Radio series
- Series, "Episode"
- Update note: the 1981 series should be referenced by 26 episodes as broadcast, not 13 as published.
I'm totally lost here
TAI
Tolkien: Artist and Illustrator. When referring to images, mention the number, the page, or both?
Adaptations
- Especially with PJ: Decipher Cards. They all have a number (and they're all on decipher's website). So: Decipher, LotR TCG, "image number: Title;subtitle"? With a link to Decipher fanhq?
Notes
Tolkien left a lot of notes, which are sometimed cited by authors - this one is in reaction to Eriador. JRRT, Unnamed note dated XX month XXXX, cited in: et cetera?