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<center><big>'''Updated as per meeting</big>'''</center>
<center><big>'''Updated as per meeting</big>'''</center>
==LotR==
==LotR==
* [[J.R.R. Tolkien]], ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'', ''[[The Fellowship of the Ring]]'', [[Strider (chapter)|Strider]]  
* [[J.R.R. Tolkien]], ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'', ''[[The Fellowship of the Ring]]'', "[[Strider (chapter)|Strider]]"
::''Note: Disambiguated chapter titles such as ''[[Strider (chapter)]]'' are piped away.''
::''Note: Disambiguated chapter titles such as ''[[Strider (chapter)]]'' are piped away.''
:::'''Update note: We go with the "Four book" method.
:::'''Update note: We go with the "Four book" method.
===50th Anniversary edition===
===50th Anniversary edition===
* [[J.R.R. Tolkien]]; [[Wayne G. Hammond]], [[Christina Scull]] (eds.), ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' ([[The Lord of the Rings (50th Anniversary Edition)|50th anniversary edition]]), ''[[The Fellowship of the Ring]]'', [[Strider (chapter)|Strider]]
* [[J.R.R. Tolkien]]; [[Wayne G. Hammond]], [[Christina Scull]] (eds.), ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' ([[The Lord of the Rings (50th Anniversary Edition)|50th anniversary edition]]), ''[[The Fellowship of the Ring]]'', "[[Strider (chapter)|Strider]]"
::''Note: Editors are separated from the author by a semi-colon.''
::''Note: Editors are separated from the author by a semi-colon.''
:::'''Update note: I forgot whether we went with this or not.'''
:::'''Update note: I forgot whether we went with this or not.'''
===Appendices===
===Appendices===
* [[J.R.R. Tolkien]], ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'', [[Appendix A]], I: The Númenorean Kings, iii: Eriador, Arnor, and the Heirs of Isildur
* [[J.R.R. Tolkien]], ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'', "[[Appendix A]]", I: The Númenorean Kings, iii: Eriador, Arnor, and the Heirs of Isildur
::''Note: Even though they are published in ''[[The Return of the King]]'' in many editions, the Appendices are appended to ''The Lord of the Rings'' proper; they are, one might say, a fourth volume.''
::''Note: Even though they are published in ''[[The Return of the King]]'' in many editions, the Appendices are appended to ''The Lord of the Rings'' proper; they are, one might say, a fourth volume.''
==Hobbit==
==Hobbit==
* [[J.R.R. Tolkien]], ''[[The Hobbit]]'', [[Riddles in the Dark]] (First edition)
* [[J.R.R. Tolkien]], ''[[The Hobbit]]'', "[[Riddles in the Dark]]" (First edition)
* [[J.R.R. Tolkien]], ''[[The Hobbit]]'', [[Riddles in the Dark]] (Second edition)
* [[J.R.R. Tolkien]], ''[[The Hobbit]]'', "[[Riddles in the Dark]]" (Second edition)


:::'''Update note: editions (where relevant) in letters, capital first letter.'''
:::'''Update note: editions (where relevant) in letters, capital first letter.'''
==UT, Sil==
==UT, Sil==
* [[J.R.R. Tolkien]]; [[Christopher Tolkien]] (ed.), ''[[Unfinished Tales]]'', [[The Drúedain]]
* [[J.R.R. Tolkien]]; [[Christopher Tolkien]] (ed.), ''[[Unfinished Tales]]'', "[[The Drúedain]]"


==HoMe==
==HoMe==
* [[J.R.R. Tolkien]]; [[Christopher Tolkien]] (ed.), ''[[The History of Middle-earth]]'', ''[[The Lays of Beleriand]]'', [[The Lay of Leithian]],
* [[J.R.R. Tolkien]]; [[Christopher Tolkien]] (ed.), ''[[The History of Middle-earth]]'', ''[[The Lays of Beleriand]]'', "[[The Lay of Leithian]]"
:::'''Update note: LoL should also include canto number.
===Etymologies===
===Etymologies===
* [[J.R.R. Tolkien]]; [[Christopher Tolkien]] (ed.), ''[[The History of Middle-earth]]'', ''[[The Lays of Beleriand]]'', [[The Etymologies]], entries BLAH and BLAH
* [[J.R.R. Tolkien]]; [[Christopher Tolkien]] (ed.), ''[[The History of Middle-earth]]'', ''[[The Lays of Beleriand]]'', "[[The Etymologies]]", entries BLAH and BLAH
==HoTH==
==HoTH==
* [[J.R.R. Tolkien]]; [[John D. Rateliff]] (ed.), ''[[The History of The Hobbit]]'', ''[[Return to Bag End]]'', [[The Fifth Phase]]
* [[J.R.R. Tolkien]]; [[John D. Rateliff]] (ed.), ''[[The History of The Hobbit]]'', ''[[Return to Bag End]]'', "[[The Fifth Phase]]"
==The Letters==
==The Letters==
* [[J.R.R. Tolkien]]; [[Humphrey Carpenter]], [[Christopher Tolkien]] (eds.), ''[[The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien]]'', [[Letter 86]] ([[October 23]], [[1944]])
* [[J.R.R. Tolkien]]; [[Humphrey Carpenter]], [[Christopher Tolkien]] (eds.), ''[[The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien]]'', [[Letter 86]] ([[October 23]], [[1944]])
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* [[Chris Smith]], ''[[The Lord of the Rings: Weapons and Warfare]]'', page 76, 77
* [[Chris Smith]], ''[[The Lord of the Rings: Weapons and Warfare]]'', page 76, 77
===Works that we don't "have"===
===Works that we don't "have"===
* [[Christopher Lee]], ''Lord of Misrule'' <sup>([http://www.amazon.com/Lord-Misrule-Autobiography-Christopher-Lee/dp/0752859331/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1216220748&sr=8-2 Buy at Amazon.com])</sup>, page number
* [[Christopher Lee]], ''Lord of Misrule'' <sup>ISBN</sup>, page number


==Websites==
==Websites==
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==Adaptations==
==Adaptations==
===Films===
===Films===
* ''Film'', ''Scene''
* ''Film'', "Scene"


===Radio series===
===Radio series===
* ''Series'', ''Episode''
* ''Series'', "Episode"


:::'''Update note: the 1981 series should be referenced by 26 episodes as broadcast, not 13 as published.'''  
:::'''Update note: the 1981 series should be referenced by 26 episodes as broadcast, not 13 as published.'''  

Revision as of 11:55, 15 September 2008

This is a test page by User:Ederchil. It is currently a hunting ground for the new references system.

A couple of ways to refer to books, articles, et cetera. Voice comments and concerns on the talk page. Page numbers et cetera serve as example

Updated as per meeting

LotR

Note: Disambiguated chapter titles such as Strider (chapter) are piped away.
Update note: We go with the "Four book" method.

50th Anniversary edition

Note: Editors are separated from the author by a semi-colon.
Update note: I forgot whether we went with this or not.

Appendices

Note: Even though they are published in The Return of the King in many editions, the Appendices are appended to The Lord of the Rings proper; they are, one might say, a fourth volume.

Hobbit

Update note: editions (where relevant) in letters, capital first letter.

UT, Sil

HoMe

Update note: LoL should also include canto number.

Etymologies

HoTH

The Letters

Semisecondary

"Nomenclature"

Note: Because the printed text in Lobdell (ed.) A Tolkien Compass, 1st edn. is no longer freely available, I vote for only referencing to this occurance of the source.

Other semi-secondary material by Tolkien

Note: This method applies to ALL magazine articles.
Update note: I can't remember which of the two was to be standard...

Works by other authors

Works that we "have"

Works that we don't "have"

Websites

Author/Editor websites

"Institute" websites

Documentaries

Note: I haven't got a clue how to do this properly. Oh, and in the light of renaming every adaptation, that seems to be the EE's official name.
Update note: added year, DVD first.

Adaptations

Films

  • Film, "Scene"

Radio series

  • Series, "Episode"
Update note: the 1981 series should be referenced by 26 episodes as broadcast, not 13 as published.

I'm totally lost here

TAI

Tolkien: Artist and Illustrator. When referring to images, mention the number, the page, or both?

Adaptations

  • Especially with PJ: Decipher Cards. They all have a number (and they're all on decipher's website). So: Decipher, LotR TCG, "image number: Title;subtitle"? With a link to Decipher fanhq?

Notes

Tolkien left a lot of notes, which are sometimed cited by authors - this one is in reaction to Eriador. JRRT, Unnamed note dated XX month XXXX, cited in: et cetera?