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Concerning Legolas

Just one comment/question. I know Peter Jackson will put in Legolas. Is there anything wrong with putting him in now in the context of Thranduil's Halls and the Battle of Five Armies, so long as his role doesn't contradict the books? --Narfil Palùrfalas 06:41, 23 May 2006 (EDT)

I don't see any harm in that as I agree, Jackson will most likely wish for much of the cast to return. --Hyarion 11:36, 23 May 2006 (EDT)
Adding Legolas just to attract those fans of the LOTR movies who have read none of the books is absolutely ridiculous. --Michael riber jorgensen 15:52, 29 April 2008 (EDT)

Beren and Luthien screenplay

I thought I'd better ask this here as I don't know where else to ask it. Would it be a good idea to start a Beren and Lúthien screenplay? If so, could you respond to this question in a new thread on the forums? --Narfil Palùrfalas 13:02, 5 June 2006 (EDT)

For those not aware: This question has been answered elsewhere, see The Lay of Leithian_screenplay for the screenplay --Hyarion 22:12, 12 June 2007 (EDT)

Adult vs. Child-oriented

One rather major issue is whether the screenplay will be geared towards children or towards adults. On one side, a darker, more adult theme would be similar to that of Peter Jackson's The Lord of the Rings, the film would also be more likely to entertain a larger audience and thus profit more. However the book was written by J.R.R. Tolkien with children in mind and altering it to a darker style may be deviating too much from the original story and thus upsetting purists. What do you guys think? --Hyarion 22:12, 12 June 2007 (EDT)

This is a big question. I favor a balanced approach, if you know what I mean. I'm fine with a darker prologue, and scenes of tension with Gandalf in Dol Guldur. I think, however, it might be nice to have the scenes in Bag End, for instance, being humorous and light-hearted, showing obviously Gandalf toying with Bilbo. You'll notice that the mood of The Hobbit grows darker as it goes along, seeming to mature as Bilbo does. From Bilbo's perspective (at first) the outside world is a bother, a nuisance, and yet dreadfully frightening. But we also see through Gandalf's eyes that it is full of conflict, evil and good. Their views begin to merge as the end is approached. That is my opinion, anyway. --Narfil Palùrfalas 12:42, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

Comments from Failadiel

Hi!

I was reading the Hobbit screenplay on this site, and i'm new here so i dont really know how to contact the one in charge of it... the thing is, you CANT take out the line Gandalf says to Bilbo after his Good morning. it shows he is relaxed and a philosopher, and he's trying to make Bilbo think. it's also a famous quote and a line that reminds us not to say something because it is the right thing to say but because we mean it. oh, and by the way, Orlando Bloom should appear in Mirkwood not because of his physical appearance, but because viewers are always happy to see a familiar face. it makes them feel more at home. and there are parts in the script that seemed too rushed, but that's just my opinion.

Warm regards,

Failadiel

Jack Black for Bilbo

amirite?--Aule the Smith 10:13, 10 February 2008 (EST)

Can I get a vomitbag? Bilbo is so obviously Martin Freeman ;) -- Ederchil 12:05, 10 February 2008 (EST)


The Necromancer / Dol Guldur storyline

This screenplay begins with a prologue introducing Dol Guldur in an attempt to integrate the plot to the wider War of the Ring. The Lord of the Rings films successfully used a prologue to introduce the central story of the One Ring. But The Hobbit is the story of Bilbo's personal journey- from a quiet life in the Shire to becoming a brave adventurer. The Necromancer is not relevant to this core story and the Dol Guldur scenes would I think be best left to the second 'bridge' film (focussing on the rise of Sauron). The start of The Hobbit needs to introduce Bilbo's character, the heart of the story, as in this Hobbit Screenplay.

It would be possible to tell the story of Smaug attacking Erebor in a prologue, but there are advantages in telling this story at Bag End as we share in Bilbo learning the tale, and Thorin's narration develops his character's longing to recapture his long lost horde. --

burrahobbit 12 March 2008

Orson Bean

As I'm watching the Rankin Bass version at the moment, I was thinking... how about a cameo for Orson Bean? Maybe at the end, as Holman Greenhand? -- Ederchil 11:58, 17 March 2008 (EDT)


I like the idea, I enjoyed him as Bilbo.

Beorn

Surely there can be only one choice for Beorn: Robbie Coltrane. (No, I don't want him to be a Hagrid clone) --Michael riber jorgensen 15:56, 29 April 2008 (EDT)

Well, if Brian Blessed were 20 years younger, I'd vote for him. Robbie Coltrane is, IMHO, not really fit as Beorn. sorry. -- Ederchil 16:00, 29 April 2008 (EDT)

Wizards

Why does Saruman say "the wizards and I will be expecting you there" when Radagast is the only other remaining wizard in the west? Also, I believe that Galadriel, Celeborn, Elrond, and Cirdan were also members of the white council, but the description in the article is "old wise men." Ælfwine228 21:09, 20 July 2008 (EDT)