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== My Bot ==
 
Hi Ederchil, is it possible you could add [[User:Mithbot]] to the [[Special:ListUsers&group=bot|bot usergroup]] (no idea why that's a  redlinks: it works for me) so I can do some menial and boring tasks quickly? Thanks, --{{User:Mith/sig}} 19:50, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 
:I'm only a sysop, not a [[wikipedia:WP:BUR|bureaucrat]], so I can't change user group rights. You could PM or email Hyarion for this. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 20:50, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 
::Oh, OK, I thought you were (wishful thinking!). Thanks anyway! --{{User:Mith/sig}} 21:57, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 
:::Actually, I thought I was too :) -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 22:21, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 
== Main page spelling mistake ==
 
Hello - while using this wiki, I noticed that main page's featured article has a spelling mistake. It should be '''borne''' not ''born'' in the sentence "Glamdring was the sword once born by Turgon, King of Gondolin." I can't edit the page! :) [[User:Darth Newdar|Darth Newdar]] 17:27, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 
:Thank you. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 21:40, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 
== The Peril to the Shire page ==
 
Just wanted to know why you keep editing the page I'm building on "The Peril to the Shire".  I worked rather hard on it, yet you keep re-arranging and deleting stuff.  It would be nice if you asked first, or at least let me know what you are up to.
 
Doug Dunklin, producer/director of "The Peril to the Shire"
"[[User:Ltcdunk|Ltcdunk]] 20:29, 19 January 2010 (UTC)"
 
:I figured you were involved in production. First of all, thank you for contributing.
 
:I basically rearranged a lot to make it fit our [[TG:MOS|Manual of Style]] and deleted a lot because it was (in my eyes) repetition. Also, a lot of text in long sentences does not improve readability, and detracts attention from your own website (we don't want to be ''too'' complete now, do we?). --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 16:04, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 
== An image page won't load ==
I was trying to load the entry page for [[:Image:Middle-earth (large).jpg]], and all I get from the server is an empty page.  I reloaded repeatedly, and I still get an empty page.  I tried other images in [[:Category:Non-canon maps|the category I found it in]], and many other pages load fine.  But this page won't.  A couple others won't too&mdash;I suspect that the large file size may have something to do with it, but that's just a guess.  Maybe the server is failing to generate a thumbnail for images that size?  I just don't know. - [[User:Gilgamesh|Gilgamesh]] 17:07, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 
:I'm not really having trouble with the image itself, but I think you're referring to [[MERP: Middle-earth Role Playing Poster Maps]], the page on which it is embedded. I have the same issue. I managed to sneak into the history via [[User:Morgan|Morgan]]'s contributions and removed the image (resizing it gave problems again). -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 21:50, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 
Now an entire ''category'' page won't load, and I didn't exactly embed images into the page body either. o.o [[:Category:Maps of Minas Tirith]].  It displayed mostly alright after I created it, but now the category page is just a white blank, like some of the image pages.  Is it possible that MediaWiki or one of its backend programs is running out of memory?  Or another kind of error?  How do we fix this kind of thing? - [[User:Gilgamesh|Gilgamesh]] 09:32, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 
:Apparently a new image problem, "Error creating thumbnail: Invalid thumbnail parameters". Don't know about the category. i'll see if I can email Hyarion about this. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 14:24, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 
::I've seen that problem before, on Wikia.  The problem is, an image has too many millions of pixels to buffer into memory to create a thumbnail.  It doesn't matter if the file itself is small&mdash;if it has very large dimensions, the thumbnail backend software runs out of memory trying to generate a thumbnail for it.  This can be fixed by increasing the amount of memory it's permitted to allocate, if that is possible.  I've been thinking that memory increase may greatly benefit the particular Tolkien interest that involves very highly-detailed maps, as Tolkien is full of those.  Either that or we split up some of the largest images into multiple segmented image files.  That'll be easy for PNGs, but not for JPEGs.  Recently I uploaded some very large maps, including one of Middle-earth (Role-playing Game canon, I think), and another absolutely gorgeous non-canon map of Minas Tirith (which may have been involved in making that category page show blank).  It would be a shame if those couldn't be displayed. - [[User:Gilgamesh|Gilgamesh]] 14:53, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 
[[:Image:Minas Anor 2000.jpg‎]] is the new Minas Tirith map I uploaded.  (It's fantastic, don't you think?)  It's the only Minas Tirith image of the new maps I recently uploaded, and it almost certainly is related to the page [[:Category:Maps of Minas Tirith]] showing blank now.<br/>
Honestly, Tolkien wiki has hundreds of wonderful maps, and it would be in our interests to be able to display all of them, even the very large files or the images of very large dimensions. - [[User:Gilgamesh|Gilgamesh]] 15:01, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 
==Anna Lee==
Sorry about the peacock-term "beautiful". - [[User:Gilgamesh|Gilgamesh]] 15:10, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 
:No problem. Though I do agree, it's just not encyclopedic. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 16:26, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 
== On the future of dictionary-style entries ==
 
There has been a recent heavy debate on this at [[Forum:Quenya declension template appearance]].  Since you have weighed on this before, could you weigh in now?  I originally went ahead with this project after asking about it, and you seemed to approve.  To be honest, my concern is mainly linguistic and grammatical, and I didn't want to get so involved in a debate about whether linguistics on this wiki are at all even noteworthy. - [[User:Gilgamesh|Gilgamesh]] 01:35, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 
:Sorry, my attention tends to drop away with long paragraphs and no images :), so I didn't respond. Will do now. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 13:54, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 
::Thank you for your feedback.  You always seem like a gentle voice of wisdom here and I appreciate it. - [[User:Gilgamesh|Gilgamesh]] 18:11, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 
== Withdrawing inflection templates ==
 
Considering the highly-controversial and sometimes flame-war-bait nature of trying to fully inflect Tolkien's languages in this wiki, I want to withdraw the entire inflection project.  But I'm not sure how to do it.  I think it would involve deleting all the embedded templates and "Inflection" sections.  But considering the heavy time and energy I put into it all, it may take about as much just to remove them.  I just don't know how to get it done quickly.  But I want to get this all behind me and away from this controversy.  And I swear, swear, ''swear'' that I didn't have a clue about the elvish.org vs. Ardalambion controversies, etc.  My primary source of all data was Ardalambion and closely associated sites.  I didn't know there was such a heated holy war involved in the issue.  I think I would generally agree with Ardalambion (elvish.org's FAQs sound really stuck-up to my inner anti-copyright liberal socialistic streak), but I don't want to be on the front lines of this&mdash;I don't want to be confrontational, not on purpose.  I'd rather practice the fan-standardized aspects of the languages in my private user pages or other informal venues, and only practice harder data in the articles.  Ederchil, please help me.  Are there any more powerful wiki tools (bots, etc.) we can use to clean this up?  I have to make this right. - [[User:Gilgamesh|Gilgamesh]] 05:12, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 
:It's a pity, because you've certainly put lots of time in the process. But you could blame us in a way; we should've responded earlier.
:We do have bots, though I fear this kind of job would have to be done by hand. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 08:15, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 
::Ouch.  Well, at least they're all marked with "inflection" (an easily searchable word), and the templates are currently hidden from display (but near "inflection" making them easy to edit).  I suppose this is a job that could be done gradually over time...if everyone pitched in, I mean.  It's just...well...I want to get past the issue, very much so.  I want to get past potential future forum postings of "what are all these invisible templates and why are they all over the place"?  I cringe thinking of that.  And I feel like having a wikistress attack when I search "inflection" and see hundreds of results that are all my work.  I wish there were an easier way through this. - [[User:Gilgamesh|Gilgamesh]] 09:21, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 
I just removed one search page's worth.  About 19 or 20.  And then I clicked "500", and it refreshed the first page, and...there are ''more'' than 500.  How on earth did I embed so many in seemingly such a short time?  I've ruined your wiki. :( - [[User:Gilgamesh|Gilgamesh]] 09:58, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 
:It's not mine, so it's okay :). I'll see if I can do some of them. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 10:13, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 
::I know you don't ''own'' it, but you are a sysadmin.  It's practically yours.  You have so much work to do here as it is, and I'm certainly no help.  I mean, I do...maybe...IPA, categories, userboxes, navboxes...  ...oh.  Well, I guess I've done ''something''.  And then I filled half the wiki with controversial inflections.  I have this feeling like I'm a small child who's been caught covering the walls of an entire house with crayon.  This all would be hilarious if it weren't all so...inconveniencing to people. XD - [[User:Gilgamesh|Gilgamesh]] 10:34, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 
I've removed some more inflections (a few dozen, maybe), and now there are less than 500 articles with the word "inflection" in them.  I've been working from the opposite end of the search results, so that I wouldn't step on your toes in case you were working from the top of the list. - [[User:Gilgamesh|Gilgamesh]] 21:45, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 
:I just want to apologise. I didn't intend for all of these to be removed in their entirety, there was definitely something there worth having, just probably not in its current appearance or scale. Does that make sense? I am sorry, though, you've felt the need to remove the lot.
 
:If [[User:Mithbot|Mithbot]] had been approved by [[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] (where is he?!) I would get it to do all this work on (y)our behalf. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 11:21, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
 
::Since Hyarion finished school and has a job, he has found himself having less and less time for the internet.
::I think it's better to do it manually, actually, because it also gives you the opportunity to clean the articles up a bit. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 11:28, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
 
::It won't be a complete loss.  Once all the templates are removed, someone can go back and make a brief note about Quenya nouns' stem forms and Sindarin nouns' special conditions (like whether a noun that begins with b/d/g mutates like b/d/g or like mb/nd/ng), and also notes regarding Sindarin plurals and Quenya irregular plurals (that may have just been fickle because of Tolkien changing his mind at least once).  Then, if you ''believe'' in regular rules, you can read them and ascertain inflections for yourself.
::Anyway, Mith, I'm also sorry for grating on your nerves before.  You can read my final explanation on my chronically abnormal way of communication at the forum post where we did most of our talking.  I'm always going to be very strange to talk to, and I don't want you grated or anything (I never did in the first place), but I'm hoping you can at least acclimate to it and see my good faith, even if most times I have no common sense.
::And if you need your bot approved, and Hyarion is not available to provide approval, then does anyone (perhaps Ederchil) have the authority to (at least tentatively) approve it? - [[User:Gilgamesh|Gilgamesh]] 18:49, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
 
:::Nope. I'm not a bureaucrat. See above. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 21:37, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
 
::::Mith, you don't ''have'' to have your bot user made into an official bot for it to work; the only thing it will do is hide the bot's edits from the recent changes page - so if the other  contributors don't mind it clogging up the recent changes page, I'm sure you could use it. ;) --{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 11:34, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
 
== MediaWiki memory limit ==
 
I read on various MediaWiki support sites that the reason categories and image pages with very large images (in file size or dimensions) show a blank page is because of a PHP error caused by running out of memory.  Since Tolkien Gateway is never going to have a shortage of highly-detailed high-resolution maps, is it possible we could ask Hyarion to increase the wiki's memory limit?  Perhaps to 64MB or more? - [[User:Gilgamesh|Gilgamesh]] 05:18, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 
:I don't know yet when I'll mail him, but I'll ask him. You can also mail him yourself, of course :). -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 08:46, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 
::I didn't know how to contact him.  Besides, he and I have never been acquainted in a wiki-working interaction.  I'd be a stranger who was feature-begging. - [[User:Gilgamesh|Gilgamesh]] 20:55, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 
:::I have so much free time now (a cold took my voice away and a sprained ankle) that I keep forgetting to mail him. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 22:19, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 
== Main Page ==


Hi, could you make another article the next improvement drive article? I think [[Barad-dûr]] has improved quite much and although the "Portrayal in adaptations" section lacks some information about the earlier films I think that we should take the next article on the Main Page. What do you think?
== Spam ==
A few suggestions: [[Angband]], [[Battle of Dagorlad]], [[Bywater]], [[Dale]], [[Glaurung]], [[Peter Jackson]], [[Mount Doom]], [[Treebeard]], [[Tuor]] -- [[User:Eldarion Telcontar|Eldarion Telcontar]] 23:23, 6 March 2010 (UTC)


:I've been meaning to do the Adaptations section but I keep forgetting. Since I only now realize I'm already already half an hour into Sunday, let me just say I'll do it this afternoon.
I don't know if you or Morgan already contacted Hyarion, but I've just emailed him about today's spam influx.--{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 17:23, 1 February 2014 (UTC)


:As for the new one, my vote's for [[Tuor]]. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 23:27, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
:I completely forgot to do that. I was too busy having flashbacks to a couple of years back. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 17:32, 1 February 2014 (UTC)


::I was just about to suggest Tuor! Great minds... --{{User:Mith/sig}} 00:13, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks for all your effort to undo the mess guys, and thanks for the e-mail KA. For the time being I've just shut off new account creation until we implement a stricter process. Although I'm having a hard time thinking of something stricter, manual approval wouldn't even work since it would be sometimes difficult to differentiate solely based on the username. --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 17:44, 1 February 2014 (UTC)


:::Great! Then let's take Tuor. -- [[User:Eldarion Telcontar|Eldarion Telcontar]] 08:49, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
:::You may be aware that I am pretty much computer-less at the moment (temporarily boring a PC right now). The way to fix this, Hyarion, is to change the CAPTCHA questions in LocalSettings.php. That will stop them until they figure out an answer. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 10:54, 2 February 2014 (UTC)


== List of Book that inspired Tolkien ==


== Games ==
It is difficult to put link sources when I just created the page and was  begining to edit including informations, and you delete the page... Be more pacient. Otherwise it will be hard to help this wiki. {{unsigned|Sigurd }}


hey


Ringen is a LOTR-game. So maybe the link has to stay on the games-year article.
:Couple of things:
* Add new messages at the ''bottom'' of the talk page. They go in chronological order from old to new.
* The entire concept is vague. "Books that inspired Tolkien"? Inspired him on what? To write a book? To become a philologist? To write an alternate mythology for England? To write a specific element?
* As I said, sources. The only source you list is a summary of his personal library, without explaining how this book being in his library inspired him. Unless you have a specific sources that explicitly says Book X inspired him to do action Y, it's just speculation.
* No content other than a list. The introduction is essentially "Books that have inspired Tolkien are books that have inspired Tolkien".
* Basic layout and spelling. That's something that you should do before saving the page.  
:As this is a vague and slippery slope (just as our existing train wreck [[Inspirations]] is), it adds nothing at the moment. Without addressing all these points (apart from the first, naturally), I see no point in having it. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 13:38, 1 March 2014 (UTC)


--[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 17:13, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
:Couple of things:
* Whatever. If you see the message works.
*  To put links, sources and more informations need time to included.
* I was working in that page and adding all informations. But is Impossible to do this when someone came and deleted the page... minutes after I began to write.
* So I think you have to whait some time before going to deleted a page. That is not the first time that you dont have paciense.{{unsigned|Sigurd}}


:Already reverted it. I'm busy cleaning everything up. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 17:14, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
::While you're putting the page together you can use [[User:Sigurd/Sandbox|a sandbox in your user area]].--{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 16:37, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
:: okay, I'm adding the game called Shadowfax here. --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 17:15, 21 March 2010 (UTC)


== .mp3 ==
== Battle of the Five Armies ==


How can you upload .mp3, because I tried to upload a mp3-file and didn't work, it said it was the wrong file.
I'd just come on to change all the links - I'm glad you beat me to it! Thank you! --{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 19:17, 24 April 2014 (UTC)


En zou de grootte van het bestand kunnen verhoogd, voor een dag ofzo. Dan kan ik een paar liedjes van Blind Guardian uploaden zodat ze gelijk te beluisteren zijn. --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 14:00, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
== Song_of_the_Lonely_Mountain (Talk_Page) ==


:Hele liedjes is geen fair use. .ogg en .mp3 zouden gewoon moeten werken - er staan er al [[:Category:Pronunciations|heel wat op de wiki]]. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 14:10, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Hello.<br>Please forgive me, I really made a mistake: the confusion occured.So, in this time, could you help me, where can I publish my translation? On the forum?<br>(From Pnompen)


== My Source ==
:We're not really the right place for fan translations. Also, what would it help? None of us here knows Russian. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 15:45, 7 June 2014 (UTC)


Ok, you recently sent me a message explaining why you ''deleted'' (not very grateful about that) the pages I wrote.
== Copyright Violation ==


Well, my source is a book I checked out a few weeks ago (before I discovered this site) called something like "Tolkien's World". It explained the history of Arda, but was not writen by any member of the Tolkien family, but by a close "associate", so I don't know how accurate it is.
May I ask why the images I uploaded are copyright violations? I personally asked the artist through deviantART. I asked through a note, so I can send you a printscreen or something. She told me that she does not mind as long as she is credited and it is not for profit. I also asked for these three specific images. --[[User:Sandy|Sandy]] 15:08, 19 July 2014 (UTC)


The pages I wrote is based on a series of maps within the books, the first being a ''complete'' map of Arda, witch was divided into four continents: Aman, Hyarmenor, Middle-Earth and Eastland. Middle-Earth was inturn divided into Endor (the northern half) and Harad (the southern half).
:I explained what you needed to add on your message wall. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 15:14, 19 July 2014 (UTC)


After that map, there were five more maps - one of Aman, Hyarmenor, Eastland, Endor and Harad. The map of Endor realy grabbed my attention, because is showed the region of Middle-Earth (in detail!) east of Rhûn. Apparently, run goes on untill the Red Mountains (labelled "Orocarni") and an unnamed river that flowes north-south from there down into the Enegaer (Inner Sea - can not believe that this site does not name it). This region is labelled "Rómen" (with "The East Lands" writen below in brackets - should not be confused with the ''continent'' "Eastland"). The region of Rohan, Rhûn and Rhovanion (everything between the Misty (I think) and Red Mountains) is labeled "Central Endor".
::If you mean my Discussion page nothing new has showed up. If you mean another message wall then I have no idea what it is. Sorry :( --[[User:Sandy|Sandy]] 15:28, 19 July 2014 (UTC)


The map also names the north most region "Formenor" with "The Northern Waste" writen below in brakets.
:::My bad i just saw it. Thanks for the info! --[[User:Sandy|Sandy]] 15:29, 19 July 2014 (UTC)


After looking around in Google images, I managed to find a version of the full map of Arda, though it is coloured differently and is labeled unlike in the book:
::::I know, I have spammed you extensively today, and I'm sorry for that. I just want to be sure that this won't happen again. So, I created the page with the permission; Am I allowed to upload them now? And if so, in the template where it says "Permission for use on Tolkien Gateway" will it be automatically linked to the page I created or do I need to do something extra? Thanks again!--[[User:Sandy|Sandy]] 15:53, 19 July 2014 (UTC)


[[image:Map_of_arda.jpg]]
:You need to add the template like you used to, but instead of DeviantArt, write Kimberly. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 16:15, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
Middle-Earth is dreadfully mis-labeled, though. The "Formenor", "Endor" and "Harad" labels are correct (though Endor and Harad should be writen larger to show that they are the names of a group of regions). Also, "Hither Lands" wasn't writen there. Instead, "Middle-Earth" was writen in the centre of the continent in large letters.


Everything else is basically exactly as shown on the map in the book. I was unable to find the exact map or the detailed maps of the conitinents.
== Hi ==


Do you think that counts as a reliable source?
Sorry for trying to help with info.  I wont help anymore.  I dont know what you mean by "primary source".

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Spam

I don't know if you or Morgan already contacted Hyarion, but I've just emailed him about today's spam influx.-- KingAragorn  talk  contribs  edits  email  17:23, 1 February 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I completely forgot to do that. I was too busy having flashbacks to a couple of years back. --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 17:32, 1 February 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for all your effort to undo the mess guys, and thanks for the e-mail KA. For the time being I've just shut off new account creation until we implement a stricter process. Although I'm having a hard time thinking of something stricter, manual approval wouldn't even work since it would be sometimes difficult to differentiate solely based on the username. --Hyarion 17:44, 1 February 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You may be aware that I am pretty much computer-less at the moment (temporarily boring a PC right now). The way to fix this, Hyarion, is to change the CAPTCHA questions in LocalSettings.php. That will stop them until they figure out an answer. --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 10:54, 2 February 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

List of Book that inspired Tolkien

It is difficult to put link sources when I just created the page and was begining to edit including informations, and you delete the page... Be more pacient. Otherwise it will be hard to help this wiki. Unsigned comment by Sigurd (talk • contribs).


Couple of things:
  • Add new messages at the bottom of the talk page. They go in chronological order from old to new.
  • The entire concept is vague. "Books that inspired Tolkien"? Inspired him on what? To write a book? To become a philologist? To write an alternate mythology for England? To write a specific element?
  • As I said, sources. The only source you list is a summary of his personal library, without explaining how this book being in his library inspired him. Unless you have a specific sources that explicitly says Book X inspired him to do action Y, it's just speculation.
  • No content other than a list. The introduction is essentially "Books that have inspired Tolkien are books that have inspired Tolkien".
  • Basic layout and spelling. That's something that you should do before saving the page.
As this is a vague and slippery slope (just as our existing train wreck Inspirations is), it adds nothing at the moment. Without addressing all these points (apart from the first, naturally), I see no point in having it. --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 13:38, 1 March 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Couple of things:
  • Whatever. If you see the message works.
  • To put links, sources and more informations need time to included.
  • I was working in that page and adding all informations. But is Impossible to do this when someone came and deleted the page... minutes after I began to write.
  • So I think you have to whait some time before going to deleted a page. That is not the first time that you dont have paciense.Unsigned comment by Sigurd (talk • contribs).
While you're putting the page together you can use a sandbox in your user area.-- KingAragorn  talk  contribs  edits  email  16:37, 1 March 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Battle of the Five Armies

I'd just come on to change all the links - I'm glad you beat me to it! Thank you! -- KingAragorn  talk  contribs  edits  email  19:17, 24 April 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Song_of_the_Lonely_Mountain (Talk_Page)

Hello.
Please forgive me, I really made a mistake: the confusion occured.So, in this time, could you help me, where can I publish my translation? On the forum?
(From Pnompen)

We're not really the right place for fan translations. Also, what would it help? None of us here knows Russian. --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 15:45, 7 June 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Copyright Violation

May I ask why the images I uploaded are copyright violations? I personally asked the artist through deviantART. I asked through a note, so I can send you a printscreen or something. She told me that she does not mind as long as she is credited and it is not for profit. I also asked for these three specific images. --Sandy 15:08, 19 July 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I explained what you needed to add on your message wall. --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 15:14, 19 July 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If you mean my Discussion page nothing new has showed up. If you mean another message wall then I have no idea what it is. Sorry :( --Sandy 15:28, 19 July 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
My bad i just saw it. Thanks for the info! --Sandy 15:29, 19 July 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I know, I have spammed you extensively today, and I'm sorry for that. I just want to be sure that this won't happen again. So, I created the page with the permission; Am I allowed to upload them now? And if so, in the template where it says "Permission for use on Tolkien Gateway" will it be automatically linked to the page I created or do I need to do something extra? Thanks again!--Sandy 15:53, 19 July 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You need to add the template like you used to, but instead of DeviantArt, write Kimberly. --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 16:15, 19 July 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi

Sorry for trying to help with info. I wont help anymore. I dont know what you mean by "primary source".