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==Archive==
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===[[User talk:Ederchil/2008|2008]]===
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In which:
'''[[User talk:Ederchil/2008|January 12, 2008 - December 19, 2008]]'''<br>
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'''[[User talk:Ederchil/2009|January 9, 2009 - December 23, 2009]]'''<br>
*[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] welcomes me, invites me for the chat, discusses the [[Calendar]], and asks my opinion on the Ithilien skin.
'''[[User talk:Ederchil/2010|January 9, 2010 - November 19, 2010]]'''<br>
*[[User:Earendilyon|Earendilyon]] comments on Uyldert's ''schotschrift''.
'''[[User talk:Ederchil/2011|February 14, 2011 - December 14, 2011]]'''<br>
* [[User:Sigismond|Sigismond]] plays [[wikipedia:Brühl|Brühl]] tourguide, and discusses a proper translation of ''etwas vereinheitlichen''.
'''[[User talk:Ederchil/2012-3|February 15, 2012 - December 14, 2013]]'''<br>
* [[User:Quidon88|Quidon88]] has cousins over, and discusses [[Steven White Jr.|a wanted page]].
'''[[User talk:Ederchil/2014-6|February 1, 2012 - September 6, 2016]]'''<br>
* [[User:Mithrennaith|Mithrennaith]], [[User:Earendilyon|Earendilyon]] and yours sincerely have a ''gezelli'' semi-Dutch/semi-English conversation about redirects.
= 2017 =
* [[User:Theoden1|Theoden1]] doesn't like my self-nomination of [[Glamdring]] for FA, and rightly so.
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* As a result of my very first [[:template:w|Welcome!]], [[User:Þelma|Þelma]] ends up on my Talk Page rather than Hyarion's.
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* [[User:Theoden1|Theoden1]] doesn't like me dogpiling, and rightly so.
== Discussion ==
* [[Soni Alcorn-Hender|Bohwe]] likes me liking her art.
* [[User:Sage|Sage]] discusses the faults in the [[Tale of Years]] and In-Universe/Out-of-Universe.
* [[User:KingAragorn|KingAragorn]] and [[User:Theoden1|Theoden1]] urge me to accept my Admin nomination.
* [[User:Þelma|Þelma]] and [[User:Mithrennaith|Mithrennaith]] discuss the proper usage of "Prince".
* [[User:Mithrennaith|Mithrennaith]] throws in a bucket of [[Unquendor|'''''The''''' Netherlands]] related messages.
* [[User:Quidon88|Quidon88]] and [[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] discuss games as part of [[Adaptations]] with me.
* [[User:Ingwe]] wants his desriptions back in [[:Category:Images by Roger Garland|Garland's pics]].
* [[User:Hyarion]] and [[User:Theoden1]] check out of meetings.
* [[User:Numenorian]] ''(sic)'' ''sics''.
* [[User:Aule the Smith]] discusses Windows.
* [[User:Breragor]] is lost in wiki-lingo.
* [[User:Sage]] discusses dates. No, not that kind.
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== Carn Dum ==
 
Hi, what did you not like in that article's analysis? shouldn't we mention that the name ''can be'' Sindarin, and if so, we don't know the words? [[User:Temp|Temp]] 08:54, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 
:Well, at first I disagreed, but with the current reword it's fine. I removed the phrase "The circumflex ^ is used by Tolkien in Sindarin extra long vowels[2], but these words have not been attested in Sindarin."  because there are plenty of those in Sindarin, even with the û - Udûn, for one. But properly sourced, it's good. Note that we're still working on referencing, but we pretty much agreed on [[User:Ederchil/Sandbox#LotR|these]]. Keep up the work - don't be shy, go ahead and completely rewrite an article instead of adding a couple of sentences if you think it needs it. Even very minor characters like [[Gildor Inglorion]] or even [[Nob]] could have a very good article. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 09:23, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 
== Things ==
 
How do you get those little boxes and such that say your name and have links to talk, profile, etc.? {{unsigned|Breragor}}
 
:Just click on "edit" on those pages and see the code they are composed of (some combination of {{, | and ]] etc etc) [[User:Sage|Sage]] 00:05, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 
::Or go here: [[Help:Signatures]]. But keep it within the borders of sanity, please. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 08:24, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 
==Reading order==
Hi again... I know new fans usually wonder about the reading order and I don't know if you ever thought about it. Now it just crossed my mind to make such an article about anyone interested. I plan to start such an article and I hope you have stuff to add. [[User:Sage|Sage]] 00:05, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 
:I do have a newbie's reading order, actually. I give it occasionally on IMDb, where I'm a regular on the LotR boards.
 
# The Hobbit - purely for introductionary reasons
# The Lord of the Rings
# Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age - basically a summary of LotR from a historian's perspective
# The Third Age parts of Unfinished Tales (though The Drúedain and The Istari can be skipped for now)
# The rest of the Silmarillion
# The rest of Unfinished Tales
# The Letters
 
:I just don't have a clue what to call such an article. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 08:18, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
==Elvish database==
I read somewhere that the creation of a Tolkienian wiktionary was one of the ambitions of this wiki. Check out my first attempts. [[User:Sage|Sage]] 16:09, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
==Template==
I like it. My only concern is that perhaps references are overloaded and I would point your attention to some minimalism. There is no need to see everywhere "J.R.R. Tolkien" and "J.R.R. Tolkien, Christopher Tolkien (ed.)" again and again in almost every reference. I mean people knows who wrote them. After all, the wiki is about Tolkien.<br>
I am telling this because in a proposed guideline it was (by you?) mentioned that well-known facts need no referencing (like that Bilbo was a Hobbit). Same perhaps would apply to the References themselves.<br>
Of course overly formality is a respected option. [[User:Sage|Sage]] 13:06, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 
:It can be a bit over-the-top, of course. But my main goal with always including the author was meant for the secondary and semi-secondary works. Originally, I favoured just doing ''Book'', "Chapter", but I think that got expanded at one of the meetings.
 
:"[[Vinyar Tengwar 45]], page 24" says nothing to anyone who doesn't have VT (and even to people that do). When JRRT wrote it, it must be made clear. When someone other than JRRT wrote it, that must also be made clear. Just my thoughts. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 13:24, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 
==Template:VGC==
I put in the talk page of the template while I called it VGC. Also, I put in the publisher as a way to substitute the author found on template:HM. --[[User:Pinkkeith|Pinkkeith]] 22:40, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 
:I read the talk pages after I edited, and wanted to respond, but Safari left me. We don't have a standard (yet) citation. Last year, I tried to get some consensus on the matter, and we sorta formulated a couple of things, but they were shelved for a while; let's just say there was a frost in Spring, or a blight in Summer.
 
:As for more games; for that to work, it's best to simply create links to sections, such as in ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (video game)#The Shire]]''.


:Also, keep a couple of things in mind. While chapter summaries can go in present tense, character pages (such as [[Amartiel]]) would have to be past tense. Also, avoid contractions like "isn't". -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 22:48, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
Hello.I would like to discuss about something [[Talk:Battle of Fornost|here]].


==Witch-king==
== Discussions ==
You said you needed a summary for our new Featured Article ;-)
Let's talk about it [[Talk:Quest of Erebor|here]], [[Talk:Arnor|here]] and [[User talk:2.86.255.128|here]].{{unsignedanon| 2.86.255.128}}


The '''[[Witch-king of Angmar]]''' (before [[Second Age]] 2200 - [[Third Age 3019]], [[March 15]]) was the chief of the [[Nazgûl]], King of [[Angmar]], and [[Sauron]]’s great captain in his wars. A wraith, the Witch-king of Angmar was nearly indestructible, a terrible warrior, and a cunning strategist. As predicted by [[Glorfindel]] he fell by the hand of a woman, [[Éowyn]], in the [[Battle of the Pelennor Fields]] and his death marked the beginn of Sauron's downfall.
I would like to be discussed something generally.Read [[User talk:2.86.255.128#Tolkien Gateway and The Hobbit film|here]].{{unsignedanon| 2.86.255.128}}


It's taken from the article for the greatest part but I added the last sentence about his fall. - [[User:Eldarion Telcontar|Eldarion Telcontar]] 21:08, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
It should be mentioned in any way that  Ravenhill was the place of the final duel between Thorin and Azog in the films. {{unsignedanon| 2.86.255.128}}


:Like it. I really had one wish: that it included Glorfindel and Eowyn. I am going to change that date around, though. And properly credit the image ;P -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 21:42, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
:It should be mentioned in a way that resembles English. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 18:36, 4 January 2017 (UTC)


==Re:Songs==
Why don't you put in your own way? I mean you can write it in your own way (the fact that in Ravendill happened the final confrontation between Thorin and Azog). {{unsignedanon| 2.86.255.128}}
I will consider it. And thank you for the "poem" installation, i didn't knew it existed. As for Khazad-Dum, It is spelled so in Summoning's CD. However, I've added the line (-). Originally it is written "Khazad Dúm" <br>[[User:Mthomas|mthomas]] 07:53, 19 April 2009 (UTC)


:Then I'll move it to ''[[Khazad Dúm (song)]]'' for consistency. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 08:52, 19 April 2009 (UTC)


== New Articles for Battle for Middle-earth 2 ==
:I've done that for roughly 80% of what you've added so far. Please improve your English. This is not optional. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 19:43, 4 January 2017 (UTC)


May i have permission to create several articles about Battle for Middle-earth 2? For Example, "Dwarves in  BFME2", that analyse the Dwarven force, and its accuracy in Tolkien's writings or its differece from it. Another example is "Maps of BFME2" that states and describes every map in the game and if it has differences from the original one (Forlindon in the game-Forlindon in Tolkien's writings). - [[User:Mthomas|mthomas]] 16:26, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
== Complaint and Discussions ==


:Nope. That's for a section "Portrayal in adaptations" in [[Dwarves]] proper, [[Forlindon]], or maybe a section "Differences from the books" in BFME2, detailing changes in geography. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 16:31, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Fool.Why did you do that? After all I have done? After all the editings that I have done in Tolkien Gateway;Is this the way you thank me? By blogging me; Is this how you thank the others for their contribitions here? By blogging them? Congratulations.Congratulations.You should be given an award for that.This is the way you thank the others.By blogging them.Right?You are an asshole.If the only thing you know what to do is blogging them and not discussing with them, then do it again. OK? Well done.--[[User talk:2.86.255.128|2.86.255.128]] 20:25, 05 January 2017 (UTC)


=="Grelvish"==
:Blogging is writing a weblog. What I did was blocking you. Because I've had to clean up all your edits, and you still continued. Don't you look at how I (and others) rewrite your contributions? Don't you learn from that? Don't you see what we remove all the time, what we keep and what we rewrite? --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 21:37, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
The phrase on my user page was designed to frustrate you, but I deemed it dumb and therefore took it off my user page. It said, roughly, "This is designed to frustrate you, It uses both Sindarin and Quenya, Use it to frustrate others." However, I took it off  because nobody will take the time to translate it. [[User:LotRfan01|LotRfan01]] 00:16, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


:I actually took some time, but gave up when nothing made sense. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 15:48, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Next time I would like FIRST to discuss these problems with me.OK? {{unsignedanon|2.86.255.128}}


== Multiple language words ==


If they are unrelated languages, I separate them with ----. Related identical words like [[aran]] are commented together. I still struggle with an easy readable layout [[User:Sage|Sage]] 11:38, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
:I indicated your English was below par before. You make a mess, I clean it up. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 10:16, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
Why did you delete my editings on page Beorn's Hall?I am telling the truth about the filming of Beorn's Hall (where it was shot).You can check it.I am not lying. {{unsignedanon|2.86.255.128}}


:I was thinking sort of a wiktionary approach, is that a good idea? (Aran needs cleanup, btw). -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 11:42, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Also, why did you delete my editings on talk page about Tauriel(I am talking about this page:[[Talk:Tauriel]])? This my opinion. OK? Can't I say my opinion about her fate now? This is just my opinion about her fate.OK? {{unsignedanon|2.86.255.128}}


==Calendar==
:Didn't I explain enough? The English is too poor to be usable. It's not a fun thing for me to say to you, but if I don't, you'll never improve. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 18:47, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
As I'm working on the events in Arda I have created a Google Calendar in order to keep track of the many events in different years. I inserted the events between April 2009 and March 2010 (unfortunately Google doesn't offer a Shire Calendar^^) and included the year in the description (e.g. "3021 - Samwise returns to Bag End").
Here comes the [http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=uoi3d4kjdk8cf158golqj0up80%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=Europe/Berlin&pvttk=18c51903aa73206be377be6aaf5ea5bc address].
I think that it could prevent us from losing track, couldn't it? :)
-- [[User:Eldarion Telcontar|Eldarion Telcontar]] 21:33, 12 May 2009 (UTC)


:That's a good one. It certainly helps you keep track of everything. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 21:45, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
All these games that I added on Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment do exist.Why didn't you put these games on this page earlier? Before me no-one else had ever said about these games on Tolkien Gateway. You could have mentioned these games earlier on Tolkien Gateway, but you didn't.Why?  {{unsignedanon|2.86.255.128}}


== Decipher Cards ==
:I'm largely retired from active content editing. I still do clean up work, though. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 07:24, 9 January 2017 (UTC)


yes. you can see it [http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR17006.html here.]
Why?Why are you retired from active content editing? You can still create pages on Tolkien Gateway.Don't be so pessimistic about yourself. {{unsignedanon|2.86.255.128}}


Oh, and i have a collection of Gimli's cards (around 20) each one with different attributes and names (Gimli-Lord of the Glittering Caves/Gimli-Faithful Companion for example). Shall i upload them? (In the To-do-list is written that every Decipher card shall be uploaded. If so, we can take them form [http://lotrtcgdb.com// here.] [[User:Mthomas|mthomas]] 11:48, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
== About my edit ==


:Okay, didn't know Thorin III had one. But Fror and Farin are NOT the characters from the Appendices, so I've removed those pictures from the articles. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 11:47, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Why did you undo my edit on the nazgul page? When you actually look at the battle of the morannon, you can actually see a wraith falling of his steed during the battle [http://cdn.roaring.earth/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Eagles-vs-Nazgul.png (A screenshot of the wraith in question)]


::ok. and what about the other cards? [[User:Mthomas|mthomas]] 11:48, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Not complaining about anything here, just asking--[[User:LordAndSaviourSauron|LordAndSaviourSauron]] 18:42, 1 February 2017 (UTC)


:::Well, a scaled down version of the full card can be done? We do need a Fairuse-Decipher template for it, though. They're apparently (c) by NLP (New Line?), TE (Tolkien Enterprises) and Decipher. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 11:50, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
:"They are taken out" covers the scene. Whether one was alive or dead is speculation. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 19:06, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
::::What do you mean by "scaled down"? we can place it as a card or only the image. the images resolution is 350x400.[[User:Mthomas|mthomas]] 11:52, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
::Ah okay. Also tbh i wonder what would happen if one survived the destruction of the ring--[[User:LordAndSaviourSauron|LordAndSaviourSauron]] 04:19, 2 February 2017 (UTC)


:::::I thought of uploading the images scaled down to about 75%. But since several other sites have them at 100%, I don't think it will be much of a problem fair use-wise. I think it's a better idea to categorize the decipher cards under their image set, rahter than [[:Category:Images of Decipher Cards showing Gimli|what characters are included]]. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 12:22, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
== Battle under the Trees ==


::::::intersting. let me know if you have ideas of sub categorizing. If you want to upload images, i've given you the link.[[User:Mthomas|mthomas]] 12:26, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
First of all, thanks for reminding me not to capitalize under. Obviously a bit miffed you deleted it so quickly, but admittedly there was a bit of conjecture in it. I would point out that by putting 'maybe' I clearly labled my conjecture, whereas there are plenty of articles that don't, for example: 'The battle was incredibly important in the course of the War of the Ring: if Sauron's Easterling armies had beaten the Dwarves and Men of Dale, they would have been able to join up with Sauron's forces from Dol Guldur in their attacks on the Woodland Realm of Mirkwood and Lothlórien, tipping the scales in favor of Mordor.'
I don't see how saying that Thranduil's army in Mirkwood would have probably exceeded that in 2941 is much more problematic. Anyway, what I'm proposing is that I write a more basic version of the article, then submit it to you or another administrator before saving it. Frankly, the Gateway's current stuff on the War of the Ring is pretty poor, and we could really do with a few short articles on the battles. The current War template leaves out half the conflict. It's fair enough to get rid of conjecture, but I'll happily do that for you. {{unsigned|Hazad}}


:::::::Well, look at [[Decipher_Card#Products|here]]. If we categorize them as "Category: Images from Reflections" or something (maybe "Images from Reflections (Decipher cards)"?), that way we can make the individual set pages redirects to the category. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 12:30, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
:I didn't delete it quickly - not as quickly as I've deleted other articles. I was busy copy editing it, fixing the sources and everything, but without all the speculation, there really wasn't much of a history section left. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 05:23, 1 April 2017 (UTC)


:::::::Good. I'll try to contribute.[[User:Mthomas|mthomas]] 12:42, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
::Hazad: IIRC, there was a discussion about having an article about a "Battle under the Trees" a couple of years ago, ultimately reaching a consensus similar to Michael Martinez' [http://middle-earth.xenite.org/2012/10/12/what-was-the-battle-of-mirkwood/ thoughts on the subject]. Thus, if there are details missing about the battle(s) in Mirkwood, I would advise adding these to the [[Mirkwood#History|history section of Mirkwood]]. --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 06:41, 1 April 2017 (UTC)


==Disclaimer==
OK, thanks for getting back to me. I have read that Martinez article and to be honest I think it's a bit below his usual standards, in that when Tolkien writes 'battle under the trees' he is clearly referring to Mirkwood in particular, rather than Mirkwood and Lorien. But anyhow no matter. While I'm asking, why is the War of the Elves and Sauron page protected, when it's marked as in need of expansion? (really needs to be added to, the only reference is Appendix B)


THE LORD OF THE RINGS ONLINE™: interactive video game © 2009 Turbine, Inc. and patents pending. All rights reserved. Middle-Earth Poster Map © 2007 The Saul Zaentz Company, d/b/a Tolkien Enterprises (SZC), under license to Turbine, Inc. All rights reserved. "The Lord of the Rings Online", "Mines of Moria", "Shadows of Angmar", The Watcher logo, "Conquer the World Beneath", "The Lord of the Rings", and the names of the characters, events, items and places therein are trademarks or registered trademarks of SZC under license to Turbine, Inc. Turbine and the Turbine logo are trademarks or registered trademarks of Turbine, Inc. in the U.S. and/or other jurisdictions. The ESRB rating icons are registered trademarks of the Entertainment Software Association. Windows and the Windows Vista Start button logo are registered trademarks or trademarks of Microsoft Corporation in the United States and/or other countries and 'Games for Windows' and the Windows Vista Start button logo are used under license from Microsoft. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. --[[User:Pinkkeith|Pinkkeith]] 00:21, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
== What did I do wrong with the Warg matriarch image? ==


:Thanks. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 13:03, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
No offense but i seriously have no idea what you meant with "no source" when you deleted the image


== Delete ==
As for the infobox, i couldnt do much better since im on an ipad and the editing interface doesnt work that well on my ipad--[[User:LordAndSaviourSauron|LordAndSaviourSauron]] 19:47, 26 May 2017 (UTC)


please delete [[Image:WAR-ICONS Harad device.gif]] and [[Image:WAR-ICONS Harad device.png]]. I was just trying to create a device for battles with [[:Category:Images of Signs and Symbols|these]] images, but it wasn't good as the white background in the images does still appear. {{unsigned|MThomas}}
:All images need a source category and subject categories. I deleted that one because I couldn't guess which of the three it was from. You like it? You source it. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 20:38, 26 May 2017 (UTC)


:Done. if you want an image deleted, just add [[:Template:Delete]], and say "delete" in the edit summary, I'll catch them then. -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 10:22, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
::Oh now i get it. Guess ill reupload it tomorrow since i know where its from--[[User:LordAndSaviourSauron|LordAndSaviourSauron]] 21:01, 26 May 2017 (UTC)


== Rollback ==
::And the other two images? what was wrong with those? {{unsigned|LordAndSaviourSauron}}


Dear Ederchil,


I want to make a question: How can I get rollback rights (if there are any)? I am already a rollbacker in another wiki, Halopedia (www.halo.wikia.com), and I would like to know how can I obtain these rights here
:::Duplicates of each other, and no point to illustrate it on the article. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 16:34, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for your time,


--<tt><sup><font color="#7BA05B">[[User:Odysseas-spartan-53|Odysseas]]-[[User talk:Odysseas-spartan-53|Spartan]]</font></sup>[[Special:Contributions/Odysseas-spartan-53|<font color="#4B5320"><font size="5">53</font></font>]]</tt> 14:07, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Oh, but idk if an image of how the eye appears in the hobbit would actually be pointless, since it looks quite different than what the eye looked like in LOTR.--[[User:LordAndSaviourSauron|LordAndSaviourSauron]] 20:33, 27 May 2017 (UTC)


:Well, we don't just give out rollback rights here. I've got rollback rights on several wikia's too, but those were given to me after I actually did something about vandalism.  We're a very small-staffed wiki project, but  any vandalism is quickly reverted by sysops. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 14:14, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::It looked fairly similar. If they're different, describe the differences on the relevant page. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 20:36, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

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Hello.I would like to discuss about something here.

Discussions

Let's talk about it here, here and here.Unsigned comment by 2.86.255.128 (talk).

I would like to be discussed something generally.Read here.Unsigned comment by 2.86.255.128 (talk).

It should be mentioned in any way that Ravenhill was the place of the final duel between Thorin and Azog in the films. Unsigned comment by 2.86.255.128 (talk).

It should be mentioned in a way that resembles English. --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 18:36, 4 January 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Why don't you put in your own way? I mean you can write it in your own way (the fact that in Ravendill happened the final confrontation between Thorin and Azog). Unsigned comment by 2.86.255.128 (talk).


I've done that for roughly 80% of what you've added so far. Please improve your English. This is not optional. --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 19:43, 4 January 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Complaint and Discussions

Fool.Why did you do that? After all I have done? After all the editings that I have done in Tolkien Gateway;Is this the way you thank me? By blogging me; Is this how you thank the others for their contribitions here? By blogging them? Congratulations.Congratulations.You should be given an award for that.This is the way you thank the others.By blogging them.Right?You are an asshole.If the only thing you know what to do is blogging them and not discussing with them, then do it again. OK? Well done.--2.86.255.128 20:25, 05 January 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Blogging is writing a weblog. What I did was blocking you. Because I've had to clean up all your edits, and you still continued. Don't you look at how I (and others) rewrite your contributions? Don't you learn from that? Don't you see what we remove all the time, what we keep and what we rewrite? --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 21:37, 5 January 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Next time I would like FIRST to discuss these problems with me.OK? Unsigned comment by 2.86.255.128 (talk).


I indicated your English was below par before. You make a mess, I clean it up. --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 10:16, 6 January 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Why did you delete my editings on page Beorn's Hall?I am telling the truth about the filming of Beorn's Hall (where it was shot).You can check it.I am not lying. Unsigned comment by 2.86.255.128 (talk).

Also, why did you delete my editings on talk page about Tauriel(I am talking about this page:Talk:Tauriel)? This my opinion. OK? Can't I say my opinion about her fate now? This is just my opinion about her fate.OK? Unsigned comment by 2.86.255.128 (talk).

Didn't I explain enough? The English is too poor to be usable. It's not a fun thing for me to say to you, but if I don't, you'll never improve. --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 18:47, 6 January 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

All these games that I added on Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment do exist.Why didn't you put these games on this page earlier? Before me no-one else had ever said about these games on Tolkien Gateway. You could have mentioned these games earlier on Tolkien Gateway, but you didn't.Why? Unsigned comment by 2.86.255.128 (talk).

I'm largely retired from active content editing. I still do clean up work, though. --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 07:24, 9 January 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Why?Why are you retired from active content editing? You can still create pages on Tolkien Gateway.Don't be so pessimistic about yourself. Unsigned comment by 2.86.255.128 (talk).

About my edit

Why did you undo my edit on the nazgul page? When you actually look at the battle of the morannon, you can actually see a wraith falling of his steed during the battle (A screenshot of the wraith in question)

Not complaining about anything here, just asking--LordAndSaviourSauron 18:42, 1 February 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

"They are taken out" covers the scene. Whether one was alive or dead is speculation. --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 19:06, 1 February 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ah okay. Also tbh i wonder what would happen if one survived the destruction of the ring--LordAndSaviourSauron 04:19, 2 February 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Battle under the Trees

First of all, thanks for reminding me not to capitalize under. Obviously a bit miffed you deleted it so quickly, but admittedly there was a bit of conjecture in it. I would point out that by putting 'maybe' I clearly labled my conjecture, whereas there are plenty of articles that don't, for example: 'The battle was incredibly important in the course of the War of the Ring: if Sauron's Easterling armies had beaten the Dwarves and Men of Dale, they would have been able to join up with Sauron's forces from Dol Guldur in their attacks on the Woodland Realm of Mirkwood and Lothlórien, tipping the scales in favor of Mordor.' I don't see how saying that Thranduil's army in Mirkwood would have probably exceeded that in 2941 is much more problematic. Anyway, what I'm proposing is that I write a more basic version of the article, then submit it to you or another administrator before saving it. Frankly, the Gateway's current stuff on the War of the Ring is pretty poor, and we could really do with a few short articles on the battles. The current War template leaves out half the conflict. It's fair enough to get rid of conjecture, but I'll happily do that for you. Unsigned comment by Hazad (talk • contribs).

I didn't delete it quickly - not as quickly as I've deleted other articles. I was busy copy editing it, fixing the sources and everything, but without all the speculation, there really wasn't much of a history section left. --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 05:23, 1 April 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hazad: IIRC, there was a discussion about having an article about a "Battle under the Trees" a couple of years ago, ultimately reaching a consensus similar to Michael Martinez' thoughts on the subject. Thus, if there are details missing about the battle(s) in Mirkwood, I would advise adding these to the history section of Mirkwood. --Morgan 06:41, 1 April 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

OK, thanks for getting back to me. I have read that Martinez article and to be honest I think it's a bit below his usual standards, in that when Tolkien writes 'battle under the trees' he is clearly referring to Mirkwood in particular, rather than Mirkwood and Lorien. But anyhow no matter. While I'm asking, why is the War of the Elves and Sauron page protected, when it's marked as in need of expansion? (really needs to be added to, the only reference is Appendix B)

What did I do wrong with the Warg matriarch image?

No offense but i seriously have no idea what you meant with "no source" when you deleted the image

As for the infobox, i couldnt do much better since im on an ipad and the editing interface doesnt work that well on my ipad--LordAndSaviourSauron 19:47, 26 May 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

All images need a source category and subject categories. I deleted that one because I couldn't guess which of the three it was from. You like it? You source it. --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 20:38, 26 May 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh now i get it. Guess ill reupload it tomorrow since i know where its from--LordAndSaviourSauron 21:01, 26 May 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]
And the other two images? what was wrong with those? Unsigned comment by LordAndSaviourSauron (talk • contribs).


Duplicates of each other, and no point to illustrate it on the article. --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 16:34, 27 May 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh, but idk if an image of how the eye appears in the hobbit would actually be pointless, since it looks quite different than what the eye looked like in LOTR.--LordAndSaviourSauron 20:33, 27 May 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It looked fairly similar. If they're different, describe the differences on the relevant page. --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 20:36, 27 May 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]