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2010

My Bot

Hi Ederchil, is it possible you could add User:Mithbot to the bot usergroup (no idea why that's a redlinks: it works for me) so I can do some menial and boring tasks quickly? Thanks, --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 19:50, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm only a sysop, not a bureaucrat, so I can't change user group rights. You could PM or email Hyarion for this. -- Ederchil ^{(Talk/Contribs/Edits)} 20:50, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Oh, OK, I thought you were (wishful thinking!). Thanks anyway! --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 21:57, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I thought I was too :) -- Ederchil ^{(Talk/Contribs/Edits)} 22:21, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Main page spelling mistake

Hello - while using this wiki, I noticed that main page's featured article has a spelling mistake. It should be borne not born in the sentence "Glamdring was the sword once born by Turgon, King of Gondolin." I can't edit the page! :) Darth Newdar 17:27, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. -- Ederchil ^{(Talk/Contribs/Edits)} 21:40, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

The Peril to the Shire page

Just wanted to know why you keep editing the page I'm building on "The Peril to the Shire". I worked rather hard on it, yet you keep re-arranging and deleting stuff. It would be nice if you asked first, or at least let me know what you are up to.

Doug Dunklin, producer/director of "The Peril to the Shire" "Ltcdunk 20:29, 19 January 2010 (UTC)"

I figured you were involved in production. First of all, thank you for contributing.

I basically rearranged a lot to make it fit our Manual of Style and deleted a lot because it was (in my eyes) repetition. Also, a lot of text in long sentences does not improve readability, and detracts attention from your own website (we don't want to be too complete now, do we?). --Ederchil ^{(Talk/Contribs/Edits)} 16:04, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

An image page won't load

I was trying to load the entry page for Image:Middle-earth (large).jpg, and all I get from the server is an empty page. I reloaded repeatedly, and I still get an empty page. I tried other images in the category I found it in, and many other pages load fine. But this page won't. A couple others won't too—I suspect that the large file size may have something to do with it, but that's just a guess. Maybe the server is failing to generate a thumbnail for images that size? I just don't know. - Gilgamesh 17:07, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm not really having trouble with the image itself, but I think you're referring to MERP: Middle-earth Role Playing Poster Maps, the page on which it is embedded. I have the same issue. I managed to sneak into the history via Morgan's contributions and removed the image (resizing it gave problems again). -- Ederchil ^{(Talk/Contribs/Edits)} 21:50, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Now an entire category page won't load, and I didn't exactly embed images into the page body either. o.o Category:Maps of Minas Tirith. It displayed mostly alright after I created it, but now the category page is just a white blank, like some of the image pages. Is it possible that MediaWiki or one of its backend programs is running out of memory? Or another kind of error? How do we fix this kind of thing? - Gilgamesh 09:32, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Apparently a new image problem, "Error creating thumbnail: Invalid thumbnail parameters". Don't know about the category. i'll see if I can email Hyarion about this. -- Ederchil ^{(Talk/Contribs/Edits)} 14:24, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

I've seen that problem before, on Wikia. The problem is, an image has too many millions of pixels to buffer into memory to create a thumbnail. It doesn't matter if the file itself is small—if it has very large dimensions, the thumbnail backend software runs out of memory trying to generate a thumbnail for it. This can be fixed by increasing the amount of memory it's permitted to allocate, if that is possible. I've been thinking that memory increase may greatly benefit the particular Tolkien interest that involves very highly-detailed maps, as Tolkien is full of those. Either that or we split up some of the largest images into multiple segmented image files. That'll be easy for PNGs, but not for JPEGs. Recently I uploaded some very large maps, including one of Middle-earth (Role-playing Game canon, I think), and another absolutely gorgeous non-canon map of Minas Tirith (which may have been involved in making that category page show blank). It would be a shame if those couldn't be displayed. - Gilgamesh 14:53, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Image:Minas Anor 2000.jpg‎ is the new Minas Tirith map I uploaded. (It's fantastic, don't you think?) It's the only Minas Tirith image of the new maps I recently uploaded, and it almost certainly is related to the page Category:Maps of Minas Tirith showing blank now.
Honestly, Tolkien wiki has hundreds of wonderful maps, and it would be in our interests to be able to display all of them, even the very large files or the images of very large dimensions. - Gilgamesh 15:01, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Anna Lee

Sorry about the peacock-term "beautiful". - Gilgamesh 15:10, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

No problem. Though I do agree, it's just not encyclopedic. -- Ederchil ^{(Talk/Contribs/Edits)} 16:26, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

On the future of dictionary-style entries

There has been a recent heavy debate on this at Forum:Quenya declension template appearance. Since you have weighed on this before, could you weigh in now? I originally went ahead with this project after asking about it, and you seemed to approve. To be honest, my concern is mainly linguistic and grammatical, and I didn't want to get so involved in a debate about whether linguistics on this wiki are at all even noteworthy. - Gilgamesh 01:35, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, my attention tends to drop away with long paragraphs and no images :), so I didn't respond. Will do now. -- Ederchil ^{(Talk/Contribs/Edits)} 13:54, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback. You always seem like a gentle voice of wisdom here and I appreciate it. - Gilgamesh 18:11, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Withdrawing inflection templates

Considering the highly-controversial and sometimes flame-war-bait nature of trying to fully inflect Tolkien's languages in this wiki, I want to withdraw the entire inflection project. But I'm not sure how to do it. I think it would involve deleting all the embedded templates and "Inflection" sections. But considering the heavy time and energy I put into it all, it may take about as much just to remove them. I just don't know how to get it done quickly. But I want to get this all behind me and away from this controversy. And I swear, swear, swear that I didn't have a clue about the elvish.org vs. Ardalambion controversies, etc. My primary source of all data was Ardalambion and closely associated sites. I didn't know there was such a heated holy war involved in the issue. I think I would generally agree with Ardalambion (elvish.org's FAQs sound really stuck-up to my inner anti-copyright liberal socialistic streak), but I don't want to be on the front lines of this—I don't want to be confrontational, not on purpose. I'd rather practice the fan-standardized aspects of the languages in my private user pages or other informal venues, and only practice harder data in the articles. Ederchil, please help me. Are there any more powerful wiki tools (bots, etc.) we can use to clean this up? I have to make this right. - Gilgamesh 05:12, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

It's a pity, because you've certainly put lots of time in the process. But you could blame us in a way; we should've responded earlier.

We do have bots, though I fear this kind of job would have to be done by hand. -- Ederchil ^{(Talk/Contribs/Edits)} 08:15, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Ouch. Well, at least they're all marked with "inflection" (an easily searchable word), and the templates are currently hidden from display (but near "inflection" making them easy to edit). I suppose this is a job that could be done gradually over time...if everyone pitched in, I mean. It's just...well...I want to get past the issue, very much so. I want to get past potential future forum postings of "what are all these invisible templates and why are they all over the place"? I cringe thinking of that. And I feel like having a wikistress attack when I search "inflection" and see hundreds of results that are all my work. I wish there were an easier way through this. - Gilgamesh 09:21, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

I just removed one search page's worth. About 19 or 20. And then I clicked "500", and it refreshed the first page, and...there are more than 500. How on earth did I embed so many in seemingly such a short time? I've ruined your wiki. :( - Gilgamesh 09:58, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

It's not mine, so it's okay :). I'll see if I can do some of them. -- Ederchil ^{(Talk/Contribs/Edits)} 10:13, 17 February 2010 (UTC)