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==WITN release year==
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Just a little note, [[The Lord of the Rings: War in the North]] is published in [[2011]]. --[[User:Amroth|Amroth]] 13:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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== Secret Vice ==
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Hi Ederchil! Why did you [http://www.tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=A_Secret_Vice&action=historysubmit&diff=186885&oldid=186884 revert this]? --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 21:25, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
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:Couple of reasons:
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* No markup.
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* No sources.
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* No composition.
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* Poor spelling.
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* POV. He begins "in a subtle fasion [sic]"? That's commentary.
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:Basically, that an article requires a rewrite does not mean we can accept anything. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 21:40, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
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::Well, I still think it was a pretty good summary (although especially suffering from a POV as you say, - but the poor spelling is easily fixed and if the POV is removed no sources would be needed as it would be only a summary). I'll have a go at editing the anonymous user's text.--[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 12:48, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
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:::It was more work than I expected ;-) --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 14:26, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
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== Vandalism ==
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I suspect you'll likely notice [http://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_Five_Armies&action=historysubmit&diff=191929&oldid=190658 this] anyhow, but I wanted to leave a note just in case.--[[User:Morgan|Morgan]]
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:Sorry, full day of classes. Looks like Mith already has it. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 14:45, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
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== On Tolkien ==
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== Spam ==
  
As far as I know, it hasn't been published yet.--[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 16:03, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
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I don't know if you or Morgan already contacted Hyarion, but I've just emailed him about today's spam influx.--{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 17:23, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
  
== Noel ==
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:I completely forgot to do that. I was too busy having flashbacks to a couple of years back. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 17:32, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
  
IMHO, I don't think it's problematic to use Noel as a source in those cases where no other analyses of a name have appeared. Especially if we're clear about giving the reference and denoting the etymology as being a "suggestion". And if a new analysis appears, it's possible to see how olkien linguists have historically interpreted a certain word. I'd say it's a bit similar to "Portrayal in Adaptions": even if we don't think that this or that adaptation was authentic, we still include it for the sake of completeness. What do you think? --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 14:44, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
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::Thanks for all your effort to undo the mess guys, and thanks for the e-mail KA. For the time being I've just shut off new account creation until we implement a stricter process. Although I'm having a hard time thinking of something stricter, manual approval wouldn't even work since it would be sometimes difficult to differentiate solely based on the username. --[[User:Hyarion|Hyarion]] 17:44, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
  
:Normally I'd say true, but in this case, it's so obviously proven incorrect by later info that we'd best not mention it. I haven't checked the Etymologies, Elfling or PE yet for a more accurate etymology. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 14:51, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
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:::You may be aware that I am pretty much computer-less at the moment (temporarily boring a PC right now). The way to fix this, Hyarion, is to change the CAPTCHA questions in LocalSettings.php. That will stop them until they figure out an answer. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 10:54, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
  
==Question==
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== List of Book that inspired Tolkien ==
  
Hi I'm Vaire thanks for making my user page open for other people and a real page, and I have a question, on the user page how do you add the box on the side where you can describe yourself? You can tell me on my user page [[User:Vaire|Vaire]]
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It is difficult to put link sources when I just created the page and was  begining to edit including informations, and you delete the page... Be more pacient. Otherwise it will be hard to help this wiki. {{unsigned|Sigurd }}
  
Thank you, sorry about the mistakes I made in editing [[User:Vaire|Vaire]]
 
  
I did what it said to do in the here but when I saved it just said all the things I typed, I did do it on my iPad if that makes a difference. [[User:Vaire|Vaire]]
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:Couple of things:
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* Add new messages at the ''bottom'' of the talk page. They go in chronological order from old to new.
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* The entire concept is vague. "Books that inspired Tolkien"? Inspired him on what? To write a book? To become a philologist? To write an alternate mythology for England? To write a specific element?
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* As I said, sources. The only source you list is a summary of his personal library, without explaining how this book being in his library inspired him. Unless you have a specific sources that explicitly says Book X inspired him to do action Y, it's just speculation.
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* No content other than a list. The introduction is essentially "Books that have inspired Tolkien are books that have inspired Tolkien".
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* Basic layout and spelling. That's something that you should do before saving the page.
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:As this is a vague and slippery slope (just as our existing train wreck [[Inspirations]] is), it adds nothing at the moment. Without addressing all these points (apart from the first, naturally), I see no point in having it. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 13:38, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
  
:I have no idea what you're trying to tell me. You tried what? --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 17:10, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
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:Couple of things:
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* Whatever. If you see the message works.
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*  To put links, sources and more informations need time to included.
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* I was working in that page and adding all informations. But is Impossible to do this when someone came and deleted the page... minutes after I began to write.
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* So I think you have to whait some time before going to deleted a page. That is not the first time that you dont have paciense.{{unsigned|Sigurd}}
  
For the user info box I copied what it said on the link you gave me and filled it out and I saved it an my user page but the box did not come up it just said was I typed, but when I typed it I used my iPad, does that make I difference? [[User:Vaire|Vaire]]
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::While you're putting the page together you can use [[User:Sigurd/Sandbox|a sandbox in your user area]].--{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 16:37, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
  
:No, it went wrong because you typed the template instead of copy pasting it. Those vertical lines aren't capital I's. That's a "pipe", |. You can find it on uppercase \ on most keyboards, not sure about the iPad. I fixed it, it displays properly now. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 18:38, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
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== Battle of the Five Armies ==
  
Thank you!! And I think that I can edit know [[User:Vaire|Vaire]]
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I'd just come on to change all the links - I'm glad you beat me to it! Thank you! --{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 19:17, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
  
:Please don't copy from Wikipedia. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 21:35, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
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== Song_of_the_Lonely_Mountain (Talk_Page) ==
  
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Hello.<br>Please forgive me, I really made a mistake: the confusion occured.So, in this time, could you help me, where can I publish my translation? On the forum?<br>(From Pnompen)
  
Thank you for telling me about adding the catagorys when creating a page about a year. [[User:Vaire|Vaire]] 16:18, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
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:We're not really the right place for fan translations. Also, what would it help? None of us here knows Russian. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 15:45, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
  
== New signs? ==
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== Copyright Violation ==
  
Perhaps add £ $ € to the insert box? I have neither of these on my keyboard.--[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 23:18, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
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May I ask why the images I uploaded are copyright violations? I personally asked the artist through deviantART. I asked through a note, so I can send you a printscreen or something. She told me that she does not mind as long as she is credited and it is not for profit. I also asked for these three specific images. --[[User:Sandy|Sandy]] 15:08, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
  
:They're already on there. Okay, not the Dollar, but Pound and Euro are. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 07:24, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
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:I explained what you needed to add on your message wall. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 15:14, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
  
== Deletion of old version of images ==
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::If you mean my Discussion page nothing new has showed up. If you mean another message wall then I have no idea what it is. Sorry :( --[[User:Sandy|Sandy]] 15:28, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
  
Could you delete the old versions of [[:File:Verlyn Flieger.jpg]] and [[:File:Ted Nasmith.jpg]]?--{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 22:00, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
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:::My bad i just saw it. Thanks for the info! --[[User:Sandy|Sandy]] 15:29, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
  
:Yes, yes I can. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 22:10, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
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::::I know, I have spammed you extensively today, and I'm sorry for that. I just want to be sure that this won't happen again. So, I created the page with the permission; Am I allowed to upload them now? And if so, in the template where it says "Permission for use on Tolkien Gateway" will it be automatically linked to the page I created or do I need to do something extra? Thanks again!--[[User:Sandy|Sandy]] 15:53, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
  
::Thanks!--{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 22:56, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
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:You need to add the template like you used to, but instead of DeviantArt, write Kimberly. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 16:15, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

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Welcome to Ederchil's talk page.

Contents

[edit] Archive

January 12, 2008 - December 19, 2008
January 9, 2009 - December 23, 2009
January 9, 2010 - November 19, 2010
February 14, 2011 - December 14, 2011
February 15, 2012 - December 14, 2023

[edit] 2014

[edit] Spam

I don't know if you or Morgan already contacted Hyarion, but I've just emailed him about today's spam influx.-- KingAragorn  talk  contribs  edits  email  17:23, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

I completely forgot to do that. I was too busy having flashbacks to a couple of years back. --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 17:32, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for all your effort to undo the mess guys, and thanks for the e-mail KA. For the time being I've just shut off new account creation until we implement a stricter process. Although I'm having a hard time thinking of something stricter, manual approval wouldn't even work since it would be sometimes difficult to differentiate solely based on the username. --Hyarion 17:44, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
You may be aware that I am pretty much computer-less at the moment (temporarily boring a PC right now). The way to fix this, Hyarion, is to change the CAPTCHA questions in LocalSettings.php. That will stop them until they figure out an answer. --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 10:54, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

[edit] List of Book that inspired Tolkien

It is difficult to put link sources when I just created the page and was begining to edit including informations, and you delete the page... Be more pacient. Otherwise it will be hard to help this wiki. Unsigned comment by Sigurd (talk • contribs).


Couple of things:
  • Add new messages at the bottom of the talk page. They go in chronological order from old to new.
  • The entire concept is vague. "Books that inspired Tolkien"? Inspired him on what? To write a book? To become a philologist? To write an alternate mythology for England? To write a specific element?
  • As I said, sources. The only source you list is a summary of his personal library, without explaining how this book being in his library inspired him. Unless you have a specific sources that explicitly says Book X inspired him to do action Y, it's just speculation.
  • No content other than a list. The introduction is essentially "Books that have inspired Tolkien are books that have inspired Tolkien".
  • Basic layout and spelling. That's something that you should do before saving the page.
As this is a vague and slippery slope (just as our existing train wreck Inspirations is), it adds nothing at the moment. Without addressing all these points (apart from the first, naturally), I see no point in having it. --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 13:38, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
Couple of things:
  • Whatever. If you see the message works.
  • To put links, sources and more informations need time to included.
  • I was working in that page and adding all informations. But is Impossible to do this when someone came and deleted the page... minutes after I began to write.
  • So I think you have to whait some time before going to deleted a page. That is not the first time that you dont have paciense.Unsigned comment by Sigurd (talk • contribs).
While you're putting the page together you can use a sandbox in your user area.-- KingAragorn  talk  contribs  edits  email  16:37, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Battle of the Five Armies

I'd just come on to change all the links - I'm glad you beat me to it! Thank you! -- KingAragorn  talk  contribs  edits  email  19:17, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Song_of_the_Lonely_Mountain (Talk_Page)

Hello.
Please forgive me, I really made a mistake: the confusion occured.So, in this time, could you help me, where can I publish my translation? On the forum?
(From Pnompen)

We're not really the right place for fan translations. Also, what would it help? None of us here knows Russian. --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 15:45, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright Violation

May I ask why the images I uploaded are copyright violations? I personally asked the artist through deviantART. I asked through a note, so I can send you a printscreen or something. She told me that she does not mind as long as she is credited and it is not for profit. I also asked for these three specific images. --Sandy 15:08, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

I explained what you needed to add on your message wall. --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 15:14, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
If you mean my Discussion page nothing new has showed up. If you mean another message wall then I have no idea what it is. Sorry :( --Sandy 15:28, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
My bad i just saw it. Thanks for the info! --Sandy 15:29, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
I know, I have spammed you extensively today, and I'm sorry for that. I just want to be sure that this won't happen again. So, I created the page with the permission; Am I allowed to upload them now? And if so, in the template where it says "Permission for use on Tolkien Gateway" will it be automatically linked to the page I created or do I need to do something extra? Thanks again!--Sandy 15:53, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
You need to add the template like you used to, but instead of DeviantArt, write Kimberly. --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 16:15, 19 July 2014 (UTC)