User talk:Ederchil - Revision history

Ederchil at 19:59, 2 April 2013

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	It's patently obvious to any who have read all of Tolkien's works that there were some few other Wise left in Middle Earth (Erestor, Galdor, Gildor Inglorion & also, at least those unidentified of the Tareldar that Elrond dispatched to look for the ring party). As well, Glorfindel likely did stay & assist Cirdan in the ongoing 'evacuation' over time of the elves from Middle Earth to Aman. At LEAST as likely as him speculatively awaiting the Blue Wizards (of whom little to nothing is confirmably known), yet my firm ground additions get canned as 'speculative', while this Blue Wizard statement remains?!		It's patently obvious to any who have read all of Tolkien's works that there were some few other Wise left in Middle Earth (Erestor, Galdor, Gildor Inglorion & also, at least those unidentified of the Tareldar that Elrond dispatched to look for the ring party). As well, Glorfindel likely did stay & assist Cirdan in the ongoing 'evacuation' over time of the elves from Middle Earth to Aman. At LEAST as likely as him speculatively awaiting the Blue Wizards (of whom little to nothing is confirmably known), yet my firm ground additions get canned as 'speculative', while this Blue Wizard statement remains?!
	Very often, less is not more ... but you have decided, so be it. Have your way, & thus less ... & hope you're happy....		Very often, less is not more ... but you have decided, so be it. Have your way, & thus less ... & hope you're happy....
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		+	:I raised other points as well. Check your talk page again. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 19:59, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

76.1.143.79: /* practically all changes deleted?! */ new section

2013-04-02T19:57:06Z

practically all changes deleted?!: new section

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	:::Hi Reallyfat, thanks so much for your recent contributions! I think Ederchil agrees that the source is from Parma Eldalamberon, but because it originates from Tolkien's own manuscripts, it's worth noting. Obviously it's not going to be considered as [[canon]] as other things, but as long as we reference it, we can let the reader decide. Thanks again for your help! --[[User:Hyarion\|Hyarion]] 04:53, 13 February 2013 (UTC)		:::Hi Reallyfat, thanks so much for your recent contributions! I think Ederchil agrees that the source is from Parma Eldalamberon, but because it originates from Tolkien's own manuscripts, it's worth noting. Obviously it's not going to be considered as [[canon]] as other things, but as long as we reference it, we can let the reader decide. Thanks again for your help! --[[User:Hyarion\|Hyarion]] 04:53, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
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		+	== practically all changes deleted?! ==
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		+	Hello, I am the individual who posted changes to the Glorfindel entry. Other than the initial speculation that he may have come back from Aman as late as after 3264 S.A.(which you or another promptly deleted), I kept my speculations to a minimum & all that was posted thereafter was on firm ground, based on that written by Prof. Tolkien or easily inferred therefrom (nothing I posted thereafter was removed for hours).
		+	Therefore, I'm upset that someone felt the need to undo all that I added in my generousity. The text reads essentially as I found it & my time & my effort & my entry-enhancing-in-depth-understanding all wasted. None of it was in conflict with pre-existing content & merely added dimension to the entry.
		+	Thus, due to the heavy handed way in which all my contributions were wrongfully deleted (one could have edited my text, just I as did the original), I won't be bothering in future to share my insight or wisdom in these matters & on this site.
		+	It's patently obvious to any who have read all of Tolkien's works that there were some few other Wise left in Middle Earth (Erestor, Galdor, Gildor Inglorion & also, at least those unidentified of the Tareldar that Elrond dispatched to look for the ring party). As well, Glorfindel likely did stay & assist Cirdan in the ongoing 'evacuation' over time of the elves from Middle Earth to Aman. At LEAST as likely as him speculatively awaiting the Blue Wizards (of whom little to nothing is confirmably known), yet my firm ground additions get canned as 'speculative', while this Blue Wizard statement remains?!
		+	Very often, less is not more ... but you have decided, so be it. Have your way, & thus less ... & hope you're happy....

Sage: add newlines

2013-02-13T11:05:08Z

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	::"Note that" is almost without exception followed by something that is completely not worth noting. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 17:57, 11 February 2013 (UTC)		::"Note that" is almost without exception followed by something that is completely not worth noting. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 17:57, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
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	:::Haha, I don't buy that :) but in any case, an expression like "note that" is actually second person (imperative), which, like the first person, is unencyclopedic. An acceptable expression would be "It is worth noting/notable that..." (and no, it doesn't always precede a trivia :)) [[User:Sage\|Sage]] 11:03, 13 February 2013 (UTC)		:::Haha, I don't buy that :) but in any case, an expression like "note that" is actually second person (imperative), which, like the first person, is unencyclopedic. An acceptable expression would be "It is worth noting/notable that..." (and no, it doesn't always precede a trivia :)) [[User:Sage\|Sage]] 11:03, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
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	Right. I will keep that in mind.		Right. I will keep that in mind.
	So, CAN I post my edits (with the amendments made)? I just want to putthe proper translations up, since these current ones aren't exactly correct. Plus, Sarafinwë is only from Parma Eldalamberon, It isn't even from Tolkien's works. {{unsigned\|Reallyfat}}		So, CAN I post my edits (with the amendments made)? I just want to putthe proper translations up, since these current ones aren't exactly correct. Plus, Sarafinwë is only from Parma Eldalamberon, It isn't even from Tolkien's works. {{unsigned\|Reallyfat}}

Sage: /* Reverts on my edits to Fingon and Turgon. */

2013-02-13T11:03:19Z

Reverts on my edits to Fingon and Turgon.

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	::"Note that" is almost without exception followed by something that is completely not worth noting. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 17:57, 11 February 2013 (UTC)		::"Note that" is almost without exception followed by something that is completely not worth noting. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 17:57, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
−		+	:::Haha, I don't buy that :) but in any case, an expression like "note that" is actually second person (imperative), which, like the first person, is unencyclopedic. An acceptable expression would be "It is worth noting/notable that..." (and no, it doesn't always precede a trivia :)) [[User:Sage\|Sage]] 11:03, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
	Right. I will keep that in mind.		Right. I will keep that in mind.
	So, CAN I post my edits (with the amendments made)? I just want to putthe proper translations up, since these current ones aren't exactly correct. Plus, Sarafinwë is only from Parma Eldalamberon, It isn't even from Tolkien's works. {{unsigned\|Reallyfat}}		So, CAN I post my edits (with the amendments made)? I just want to putthe proper translations up, since these current ones aren't exactly correct. Plus, Sarafinwë is only from Parma Eldalamberon, It isn't even from Tolkien's works. {{unsigned\|Reallyfat}}

Hyarion: /* Reverts on my edits to Fingon and Turgon. */ Added reply

2013-02-13T04:53:56Z

Reverts on my edits to Fingon and Turgon.: Added reply

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	:Parma Eldalamberon publishes works by Tolkien. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 14:00, 12 February 2013 (UTC)		:Parma Eldalamberon publishes works by Tolkien. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 14:00, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

		+	::Where in any version of the Legendarium, the old HoMe, or any of tolkiens letters is Sarafinwë mentioned? The only source we have is Parma Eldalamberon, Parma 17. --[[User:Reallyfat\|Reallyfat]] 04:10, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

−	~~Where in any version of the Legendarium~~, the ~~old HoMe, or any of tolkiens letters is Sarafinwë mentioned? The only~~ source ~~we have~~ is Parma Eldalamberon, ~~Parma 17~~.	+	:::Hi Reallyfat, thanks so much for your recent contributions! I think Ederchil agrees that the source is from Parma Eldalamberon, but because it originates from Tolkien's own manuscripts, it's worth noting. Obviously it's not going to be considered as [[canon]] as other things, but as long as we reference it, we can let the reader decide. Thanks again for your help! --[[User:Hyarion\|Hyarion]] 04:53, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
−	--[[User:~~Reallyfat~~\|~~Reallyfat~~]] 04:10, 13 February 2013 (UTC)	+

Reallyfat: /* Reverts on my edits to Fingon and Turgon. */

2013-02-13T04:10:02Z

Reverts on my edits to Fingon and Turgon.

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	Where in any version of the Legendarium, the old HoMe, or any of tolkiens letters is Sarafinwë mentioned? The only source we have is Parma Eldalamberon, Parma 17.		Where in any version of the Legendarium, the old HoMe, or any of tolkiens letters is Sarafinwë mentioned? The only source we have is Parma Eldalamberon, Parma 17.
		+	--[[User:Reallyfat\|Reallyfat]] 04:10, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Reallyfat: /* Reverts on my edits to Fingon and Turgon. */

2013-02-13T04:08:57Z

Reverts on my edits to Fingon and Turgon.

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	:Parma Eldalamberon publishes works by Tolkien. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 14:00, 12 February 2013 (UTC)		:Parma Eldalamberon publishes works by Tolkien. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 14:00, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
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		+	Where in any version of the Legendarium, the old HoMe, or any of tolkiens letters is Sarafinwë mentioned? The only source we have is Parma Eldalamberon, Parma 17.

Ederchil at 14:00, 12 February 2013

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	Right. I will keep that in mind.		Right. I will keep that in mind.
−	So, CAN I post my edits (with the amendments made)? I just want to putthe proper translations up, since these current ones aren't exactly correct. Plus, Sarafinwë is only from Parma Eldalamberon, It isn't even from Tolkien's works.	+	So, CAN I post my edits (with the amendments made)? I just want to putthe proper translations up, since these current ones aren't exactly correct. Plus, Sarafinwë is only from Parma Eldalamberon, It isn't even from Tolkien's works. {{unsigned\|Reallyfat}}
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		+	:Parma Eldalamberon publishes works by Tolkien. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 14:00, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

85.154.153.2: /* Reverts on my edits to Fingon and Turgon. */

2013-02-12T12:06:37Z

Reverts on my edits to Fingon and Turgon.

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	::"Note that" is almost without exception followed by something that is completely not worth noting. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 17:57, 11 February 2013 (UTC)		::"Note that" is almost without exception followed by something that is completely not worth noting. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 17:57, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
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		+	Right. I will keep that in mind.
		+	So, CAN I post my edits (with the amendments made)? I just want to putthe proper translations up, since these current ones aren't exactly correct. Plus, Sarafinwë is only from Parma Eldalamberon, It isn't even from Tolkien's works.

Ederchil: /* Reverts on my edits to Fingon and Turgon. */

2013-02-11T17:57:56Z

Reverts on my edits to Fingon and Turgon.

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	PS: What is wrong with saying "note that"?		PS: What is wrong with saying "note that"?
	--[[User:Reallyfat\|Reallyfat]] 17:56, 11 February 2013 (UTC)		--[[User:Reallyfat\|Reallyfat]] 17:56, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
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		+	::"Note that" is almost without exception followed by something that is completely not worth noting. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 17:57, 11 February 2013 (UTC)