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Archive

2008

In which:

• Hyarion welcomes me, invites me for the chat, discusses the Calendar, and asks my opinion on the Ithilien skin.
• Earendilyon comments on Uyldert's schotschrift.
• Sigismond plays Brühl tourguide, and discusses a proper translation of etwas vereinheitlichen.
• Quidon88 has cousins over, and discusses a wanted page.
• Mithrennaith, Earendilyon and yours sincerely have a gezelli semi-Dutch/semi-English conversation about redirects.
• Theoden1 doesn't like my self-nomination of Glamdring for FA, and rightly so.
• As a result of my very first Welcome!, Þelma ends up on my Talk Page rather than Hyarion's.
• Theoden1 doesn't like me dogpiling, and rightly so.
• Bohwe likes me liking her art.
• Sage discusses the faults in the Tale of Years and In-Universe/Out-of-Universe.
• KingAragorn and Theoden1 urge me to accept my Admin nomination.
• Þelma and Mithrennaith discuss the proper usage of "Prince".
• Mithrennaith throws in a bucket of The Netherlands related messages.
• Quidon88 and Hyarion discuss games as part of Adaptations with me.
• User:Ingwe wants his desriptions back in Garland's pics.
• User:Hyarion and User:Theoden1 check out of meetings.
• User:Numenorian (sic) sics.
• User:Aule the Smith discusses Windows.
• User:Breragor is lost in wiki-lingo.
• User:Sage discusses dates. No, not that kind.

Carn Dum

Hi, what did you not like in that article's analysis? shouldn't we mention that the name can be Sindarin, and if so, we don't know the words? Temp 08:54, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, at first I disagreed, but with the current reword it's fine. I removed the phrase "The circumflex ^ is used by Tolkien in Sindarin extra long vowels[2], but these words have not been attested in Sindarin." because there are plenty of those in Sindarin, even with the û - Udûn, for one. But properly sourced, it's good. Note that we're still working on referencing, but we pretty much agreed on these. Keep up the work - don't be shy, go ahead and completely rewrite an article instead of adding a couple of sentences if you think it needs it. Even very minor characters like Gildor Inglorion or even Nob could have a very good article. -- Ederchil ^{(Talk/Contribs/Edits)} 09:23, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Things

How do you get those little boxes and such that say your name and have links to talk, profile, etc.? —Unsigned comment by Breragor (talk • contribs).

Just click on "edit" on those pages and see the code they are composed of (some combination of {{, | and ]] etc etc) Sage 00:05, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Or go here: Help:Signatures. But keep it within the borders of sanity, please. -- Ederchil ^{(Talk/Contribs/Edits)} 08:24, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Reading order

Hi again... I know new fans usually wonder about the reading order and I don't know if you ever thought about it. Now it just crossed my mind to make such an article about anyone interested. I plan to start such an article and I hope you have stuff to add. Sage 00:05, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I do have a newbie's reading order, actually. I give it occasionally on IMDb, where I'm a regular on the LotR boards.

1. The Hobbit - purely for introductionary reasons
2. The Lord of the Rings
3. Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age - basically a summary of LotR from a historian's perspective
4. The Third Age parts of Unfinished Tales (though The Drúedain and The Istari can be skipped for now)
5. The rest of the Silmarillion
6. The rest of Unfinished Tales
7. The Letters

I just don't have a clue what to call such an article. -- Ederchil ^{(Talk/Contribs/Edits)} 08:18, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Elvish database

I read somewhere that the creation of a Tolkienian wiktionary was one of the ambitions of this wiki. Check out my first attempts. Sage 16:09, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Template

I like it. My only concern is that perhaps references are overloaded and I would point your attention to some minimalism. There is no need to see everywhere "J.R.R. Tolkien" and "J.R.R. Tolkien, Christopher Tolkien (ed.)" again and again in almost every reference. I mean people knows who wrote them. After all, the wiki is about Tolkien.
I am telling this because in a proposed guideline it was (by you?) mentioned that well-known facts need no referencing (like that Bilbo was a Hobbit). Same perhaps would apply to the References themselves.
Of course overly formality is a respected option. Sage 13:06, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

It can be a bit over-the-top, of course. But my main goal with always including the author was meant for the secondary and semi-secondary works. Originally, I favoured just doing Book, "Chapter", but I think that got expanded at one of the meetings.

"Vinyar Tengwar 45, page 24" says nothing to anyone who doesn't have VT (and even to people that do). When JRRT wrote it, it must be made clear. When someone other than JRRT wrote it, that must also be made clear. Just my thoughts. -- Ederchil ^{(Talk/Contribs/Edits)} 13:24, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Template:VGC

I put in the talk page of the template while I called it VGC. Also, I put in the publisher as a way to substitute the author found on template:HM. --Pinkkeith 22:40, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

I read the talk pages after I edited, and wanted to respond, but Safari left me. We don't have a standard (yet) citation. Last year, I tried to get some consensus on the matter, and we sorta formulated a couple of things, but they were shelved for a while; let's just say there was a frost in Spring, or a blight in Summer.

As for more games; for that to work, it's best to simply create links to sections, such as in The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (video game)#The Shire.

Also, keep a couple of things in mind. While chapter summaries can go in present tense, character pages (such as Amartiel) would have to be past tense. Also, avoid contractions like "isn't". -- Ederchil ^{(Talk/Contribs/Edits)} 22:48, 5 March 2009 (UTC)