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Hey. I need sites on how to get names and phrases from the elvish language, so i can print them and use them in my novel. if i dont reply on here immediately, im on this website below ALOT! (site) Unsigned comment by Lukeamis (talk • contribs).

Hi there, Luke. Though this sort of thing is not what the forum is for (yeah, we need better guidelines), I'd love to guide you to a site where I myself "work": Meris Essi ar Quenteli. I'm however not sure what the copyright situation is for publishing in printed (and for-profit) works. -- Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 08:49, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Another good site is Ardalambion, created by Helge K. Fauskanger, a great Tolkien linguist. Ælfwine228 17:23, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
If you're planning on using Tolkien's elvish in your own works, I think it is legal, but you can't use any specific phrases that Tolkien did (i.e. "Aurë entuluva"-"day shall come again"). Otherwise, you have as much right to use elvish as you do any other language.--Aragorn47 21:03, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
It's not quite so clear cut. As written works all of Tolkien's languages are definitely protected by international copyright law. Their use on this site, for example, falls under Fair Use/Fair Dealing in most jurisdictions so it is okay. 'Derivative works' also have some protection under US law, but its fuzzy. Whether or not one can write derivative stories based on existing works is really a matter of the original author's discretion. If Lukeamis wrote a fanfiction 'novel' based on Tolkien's work which included some Quenya and distributed it freely he'd be fine. On the other end of the scale, if Lukeamis happened to write a wildly successful fantasy novel which included some Quenya or Sindarin words in a brand new context he would be very likely to be sued by the Tolkien Estate. --Aule the Smith 11:14, 21 October 2008 (UTC)