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Why did whoever just did it undo my edit?? What was wrong? And on Angrod too...Ederchil, I asked permission on the Orodreth talk page and no one said anything, so I assumed it was alright to go ahead. I wish you'd just told me no before I spent time on it. Naeramarth 13:40, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

It's out-of-universe. --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 15:14, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Got it, thanks :) But, just wondering, why can't we use the Silmarillion-official genealogy? Is there a reason the most obscure origins for this family are used instead of the ones everyone knows? I understand it was Tolkien's final word on the subject and that we want to honor that, but wouldn't he want us to use something that agreed with the rest of his work instead of a random afterthought? He had a love of unity, and this whole genealogy isn't very unified in its latest versions...I'd be content and stop bothering you for an even slightly satisfactory answer ;) ~Naeramarth 16:43, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

I don't remember exactly, but I think it came about after a Published Intent/Final Intent discussion. Canon is quicksand. --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 19:57, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Understood. Canon is a nightmare! Naeramarth 22:33, 29 August 2018 (UTC)