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Is David Day's mention "a feriocious race of winged insects" of any worth? In general, Day's explanations are quite often his own and not well enough based on Tolkien's texts. In the Errantry Bombadil is told to have "battled with the Dumbledors, the Hummerhorns, and Honeybees" (three different species of bumblebees?) but that's all. They may have been quite peaceful a race quite suddenly attacked by a ferocious Bombadil... --Tik 05:50, 26 January 2008 (EST)

There was an earlier discussion-ish thing about David Day. Can't find it. Specifically mention that in Day's book, the line that separates the canon from the downright balderdash is blurry. -- Ederchil 06:13, 26 January 2008 (EST)
The earlier discussion was at Talk:Errantry. I was unable to find any other references to Dumbledors in my texts and I think we all know where Day stands on the canon scale. However I think, seeing as so little of the topic is known, mentioning what Day states about them may be worth it, if only to show the disclaimer that what Day has written about them lacks factual backing, although in this circumstance I don't think his assumptions are that far off. Below is the section directly before the mention of Dumbledors:
Of crystal was his habergeon,
his scabbard of chalcedony;
with silver tipped at plenilune
his spear was hewn of ebony.
His javelins were of malachite
and stalactite — he brandished them,
and went and fought the dragon-flies
of Paradise, and vanquished them.
This seems to imply the Dumbledors, Hummerhorns, and Honeybees were dragon-flies, so they were indeed "winged insects". Judging by the mariner's weaponry, I would say if he "battled" these insects, they would indeed need to be "ferocious". Also keep in mind the poem isn't about Bombadil, but a mariner. --Hyarion 15:22, 26 January 2008 (EST)