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[edit] Fathername

At least, i guess that's what the fn in the infobox means. Is it really necessary to mention? It might just confuse people. Oh, and the link of the next word, Itarillë, redirects back to this article. I'll remove that .-- Ederchil 17:07, 27 January 2008 (EST)

[edit] Five-sixteenth Vanyarin?

Her mother was full Vanyarin, so she is by that at least 50 % Vanyarin. As I have understood it, her mother (Elenwë) and great-grandmother (Indis) were both full Vanyarin, that would make her five-eighth Vanyarin (Fingolfin being half, Turgon being one quarter). Someone obviuosly mixed up their math. 17:48, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Celebrimbor

It says that Idril and Orodreth are the only two of the third-generation Noldor to go into exile, but what about Celebrimbor? I believe he was also born in Valinor, and would therefore also be a third-generation Noldo to leave Valinor and go to Beleriand.

Tolkien changed the background of Celebrimbor many times, and his story was left quite unfinished. If we are to suppose that he really was the son of Curufin and not a Telerin or a Sindarin elf (see PM p. 318, 319), he was born in Aman and followed his father to the exile (a late note of Tolkien written in his own exemplar of RK, see PM p. 317). In any case, Celebrimbor did not exist before the writing of LotR. --Tik 07:54, 17 January 2017 (UTC)